Jerseygirl

surely you must have had the results of your test by now?

OrangeMango

What I am hoping for is that the vaccine will be mandatory and the legal obligation of each and every citizen and resident. Sadly there are a lot of people who disagree with this idea. I don't know if I would call them Covidiots.

I also disagree that the vaccine should be for free. If various governments are spending money on the research, the least one can do, is give back, pay for the vaccine, even if it's a small fee for 20 or 30 pounds or dollars.

scrubbedexpat099

Mayor of Austin now, he apologised so I guess that is ok.

https://www.statesman.com/news/20201...n-cabo-at-time

sharkus

My concern with mandatory covid vaccination - at this point of time - is simply that we don't know if there are any long term issues post vaccination. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think there has - for obvious reasons - been long enough for any trials being run to figure out this kind of thing.
Sure, something that stops you getting covid is a good thing, and I do want to vaccinate myself against it to protect me, and others, I'm just worried.

As for "small fee for 20 or 30 pounds or dollars.", that might be a small amount to a lot of people, but to many, many people, that isn't a small sum.

Shard

It's hard to make it mandatory, individuals ought to have a right on what is injected into them. However, serious incentives could be put in place, for example a so-called COvid passport meaning you're not allowed to enter certain public zones or use public transport without it. We don't need 100% vaccination to achieve herd immunity, around 70% with the remaining 30% widely distributed would be fairly effective. I think it should be free.

Siouxie

Wouldn't that be the government over ruling citizen and human rights??

If everyone who wants to be vaccinated is vaccinated - why the worry - the ones that aren't vaccinated can't pass it onto the ones vaccinated.. or why would they get vaccinated if it offers no protection?

Revin Kevin

I think it's odd that London (population 9.5 million) is not in Tier 3 while for example, the whole of Lincolnshire (population 750k) is!

Shard

The tiering is done on infection rates, not population size ??

Revin Kevin

Infection rates are just one of the factors that are used in the calculation. The point is why is a densely populated city like London considered safer than mostly rural Lincolnshire? We are told the best way to avoid transmission is to avoid other people so you not think that is even slightly counter intuitive ?

Siouxie

What about this then - RED tier!! There is no rhyme nor reason to how this has been set up...
https://www.ovulation-calculators.co.../gb/herne-bay/
(put in any town to get the figures)

Shard

In that case you are arguing that Lincolnshire should be in T2 like London.

scrubbedexpat091

Yes. I got the results Tuesday evening. It was negative.

Still very under the weather though, so must be another bug.

scrubbedexpat091

And elsewhere in BC, there is a family seeking out COVID + people to come live with them, so they can build their natural immunity. According to the ad placed, they tried it once before but failed to get sick and I am sure they are not alone in doing this, the anti-vaxx, natural immunity crowd have been known to do this with other diseases like chicken pox and measles rather than vaccinate.

Siouxie

Go back to the 50's and 60's and we were all exposed deliberately to measles, chicken pox, german measles (rubella), scarlet fever, mumps, whooping cough and anything else other than polio or diptheria, LOL..

bats

The USA had 3157 deaths on wednesday, 200,070 new cases. Frightening numbers