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scrubbedexpat091 Jan 28th 2020 7:15 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12797546)
I wish they would mention the exact flight information that he was on when he returned to Canada.

I am not sure the reasoning to keep that info secret, with 20 something flights a day to/from China + all the connecting possibilities, there is a ton of passengers each day arriving into Vancouver from China, which is why I was surprised its taken this long to have a confirmed case here.

caretaker Jan 28th 2020 11:23 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
-- Members of the Chinese-Canadian community are speaking out against racist and sinophobic backlash against East Asian people over widespread fear of the coronavirus
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/chines...ears-1.4787002

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 29th 2020 5:37 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
One pharmacy today had a nice line up, almost 100 people waiting to get face masks, word got out this location had some, stores have been struggling to keep up with demand.

https://www.richmond-news.com/news/v...sks-1.24063448



tumbleweedly Jan 29th 2020 1:13 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
The World Health Organization published this today on the Coronovirus after meeting with China's president.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-sou...ov-cleared.pdf

Zoe Bell Jan 29th 2020 2:21 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I have another CDC webinar tomorrow and a phone call with international SOS today.
Fun times

spouse of scouse Jan 29th 2020 4:19 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12797674)
-- Members of the Chinese-Canadian community are speaking out against racist and sinophobic backlash against East Asian people over widespread fear of the coronavirus
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/chines...ears-1.4787002

Some very good points in that article. There's a post elsewhere on BE about not buying any more Chinese takeaways and not going into shops with Chinese staff.

caretaker Jan 29th 2020 6:16 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Aussies isolate the virus, paving the way for parallel vaccine research with other countries.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australi...ay-for-vaccine

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 30th 2020 12:43 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Air Canada is suspending service to Beijing and Shanghai through end of February. BA has done the same to mainland China, American Airlines plans to suspend service between Los Angeles and Shanghai and Beijing from Feb 9th to March 27th citing decreased demand to China.

Cathay Pacific has reduced flight to mainland China by roughly half.

Air India is suspending Delhi-Shanghai.






https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cor...avel-1.5444326

Danny B Jan 30th 2020 3:03 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Canada needs to build a wall and the coronavirus is going to pay for it.

caretaker Jan 30th 2020 4:05 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Who did the government hire to fly the Canadians out?

Siouxie Jan 30th 2020 5:21 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12798081)
Aussies isolate the virus, paving the way for parallel vaccine research with other countries.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australi...ay-for-vaccine


Researchers at Melbourne's Peter Doherty Institute for Infection and Immunity have become the first to recreate the virus outside of China.
Conspiracy theorists suggest that perhaps it was created in a lab.. https://www.globalresearch.ca/chinas...-facts/5701662
and https://www.ccn.com/could-the-deadly...iller-disease/
;)

caretaker Jan 30th 2020 5:38 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12798659)
Conspiracy theorists suggest that perhaps it was created in a lab.. https://www.globalresearch.ca/chinas...-facts/5701662
and https://www.ccn.com/could-the-deadly...iller-disease/
;)

The evil Dr Barlow made it in his lab on Skull Mountain in the Caymans. There's a conspiracy theory for you.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 30th 2020 6:47 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12798608)
Who did the government hire to fly the Canadians out?

My guess it will either be Air Canada or a government plane if Canadian military has anything capable, or maybe they will outsource to US, I can't find anything beyond vague articles saying Canada is planning to send a plane but no mention of who is providing the plane, but if going with a passenger airline, my money would be on Air Canada.


Zoe Bell Jan 30th 2020 7:19 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
yet another webinar with very little useful information i can use.
interesting point was that the CDC are expecting this situation to hit its peak as late as April or May

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 30th 2020 7:28 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
US has it's first case of human to human transmission, the woman in Chicago infected someone who lives with her.

US did a good job at containing SARS so hopefully the same will occur with this virus.

Zoe Bell Jan 30th 2020 8:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
PHEIC declared by WHO :(

Danny B Jan 30th 2020 9:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Some very helpful information about the virus in this tweet.


scrubbedexpat091 Jan 30th 2020 11:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12798805)
Some very helpful information about the virus in this tweet.

https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/...286469120?s=20

Gotta love the Onion.


scrubbedexpat091 Jan 31st 2020 8:47 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 12798768)
PHEIC declared by WHO :(

US issued a level 4 red warning urging USC not to travel to China at all.

Previous warning was to avoid non-essential travel.

As of 12:45am PST Canada still showing only to avoid non-essential travel.

AA pilots in the US are trying to get a court order to force the airline to suspend flights, the crews dont want to fly to China they typically spend 32 hours on layover before their return back to the US.

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 31st 2020 8:55 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
10 tweets from the BCCDC about corona virus.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...quiz-1.5447025

caretaker Jan 31st 2020 12:10 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12798707)
My guess it will either be Air Canada or a government plane if Canadian military has anything capable, or maybe they will outsource to US, I can't find anything beyond vague articles saying Canada is planning to send a plane but no mention of who is providing the plane, but if going with a passenger airline, my money would be on Air Canada.

One news item said they'd lined up a charter but no word on which airline or when. Probably takes time to get 191 + whatever additional passengers together and clear them to leave.

tumbleweedly Jan 31st 2020 1:50 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I'm suddenly grateful for the small things, like not having to walk more than three blocks for any thing I might need!

caretaker Jan 31st 2020 3:05 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Julia Wong speaks to one Albertan who is waiting for news from our country's embassy on how Canadians will be evacuated.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6485663/a...us-evacuation/
https://globalnews.ca/news/6479044/o...=%40globalnews

dave_j Jan 31st 2020 4:49 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Death rate for infection resulting in about 1 in 50, 2%.
Imagine the fear in 1917/8 onward when the Spanish Flu pandemic started and lasted about 3 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu is worth a read.
It's thought to have infected 500m worldwide and resulted in 50-100m deaths, a death rate of 10-20%.... but....
No international air travel, widespread road use or TV in those days but there were trains and newspapers.
One fact that hit me was that in the first year of the pandemic life expectancy in the US fell by 12 years. "The Spanish flu pandemic resulted in a higher than expected mortality rate for young adults."

caretaker Jan 31st 2020 5:00 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Most people from here of a certain age were taught about the epidemic in school, and I remember there was focus on Drumheller where many died in hospital.
“Here, at a time when there are people who won’t get their shots or won’t even get inoculations for their children, we’re talking about a time when the authorities … could arrest you for not wearing a mask in public,” said Sanders.
https://canada-news.org/calgary/100-...was-in-crisis/

scrubbedexpat091 Jan 31st 2020 6:59 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Spanish Flu was also during a time of limited medical options, was really nothing doctors could do, no antibiotics yet, no antiviral medications, no real life support systems, really amazing how much things have chanced in 102 years or so, but of course we do seem to be reverting back to where bacterial infections are again becoming a problem with these super bugs.

My great great grandmother I vaguely remember her talking about Spanish flu, she was early 20's when it occurred, but I was too young to care.

US CDC has decided it wise to place a 14 day federal quarantine on the passengers who returned back to the US on the charter flight the US did, initially they were just doing a 3 day voluntarily quarantine.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/31/healt...day/index.html

dave_j Jan 31st 2020 7:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12799292)
Most people from here of a certain age were taught about the epidemic in school, and I remember there was focus on Drumheller where many died in hospital.

Those of us born in the UK very likely never heard of the Spanish Flu.
At primary school in the fifties I knew of whooping cough, diphtheria, polio, scarlet fever, measles, chicken pox etc, illnesses that we should be worried about, but flu was simply something everyone got and then got over it.
We knew all about the wars and the empire, but Spanish flu.. nothing.
Even at secondary school where facts were crammed into our pitifully repressed brains, we learned all about the Corn Laws, the War of Jenkins Ear and the Peterloo Massacre etc.., but Spanish flu.. nothing.
No wonder we grew up ignorant.


Former Lancastrian Jan 31st 2020 11:16 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12799400)
Those of us born in the UK very likely never heard of the Spanish Flu.
At primary school in the fifties I knew of whooping cough, diphtheria, polio, scarlet fever, measles, chicken pox etc, illnesses that we should be worried about, but flu was simply something everyone got and then got over it.
We knew all about the wars and the empire, but Spanish flu.. nothing.
Even at secondary school where facts were crammed into our pitifully repressed brains, we learned all about the Corn Laws, the War of Jenkins Ear and the Peterloo Massacre etc.., but Spanish flu.. nothing.
No wonder we grew up ignorant.

Spanish Flu another good reason to leave the EU :britflag:

Expatrick Feb 1st 2020 5:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12799544)
Spanish Flu another good reason to leave the EU :britflag:

Yes, the new "global" Britain can really enjoy the benefits of Asian Flu, Bubonic Plague, Lassa Fever, Ebola and all the other goodies found outside of the EU! :lol:

spouse of scouse Feb 1st 2020 5:27 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12799544)
Spanish Flu another good reason to leave the EU :britflag:


Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12799895)
Yes, the new "global" Britain can really enjoy the benefits of Asian Flu, Bubonic Plague, Lassa Fever, Ebola and all the other goodies found outside of the EU! :lol:

Stop being silly sausages :frown:

Expatrick Feb 1st 2020 5:28 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12799903)
Stop being silly sausages :frown:

Sorry, just can't help it sometimes!

spouse of scouse Feb 1st 2020 5:36 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12799904)
Sorry, just can't help it sometimes!

I'm sure if I started a thread about farting it'd get around to Brexit sooner or later!

Siouxie Feb 1st 2020 6:25 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12799400)
Those of us born in the UK very likely never heard of the Spanish Flu.
At primary school in the fifties I knew of whooping cough, diphtheria, polio, scarlet fever, measles, chicken pox etc, illnesses that we should be worried about, but flu was simply something everyone got and then got over it.
We knew all about the wars and the empire, but Spanish flu.. nothing.
Even at secondary school where facts were crammed into our pitifully repressed brains, we learned all about the Corn Laws, the War of Jenkins Ear and the Peterloo Massacre etc.., but Spanish flu.. nothing.
No wonder we grew up ignorant.

As a child of the 50's I had whooping cough, scarlet fever, scarletina, measles, mumps (twice), german measles (rubella), tonsillitis (now called strep throat apparently) numerous times, as well as ear infection after ear infection.... oh and suspected lockjaw from falling and cutting my leg open on a farm. I've also had chicken pox and meningitis as an adult and I was exposed to TB when our mother had it. Amazing I'm still alive really according to the doom and gloom pro vaccine troops; the only innoculation I ever had was polio vaccine on a sugar lump - a tetanus shot post cut -(and yellow fever before I went to Hong Kong) - I had a very nasty bout of Flu A a few years ago, which I was very ill from for weeks and didn't recover for months........ but you know what they say "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger".

I remember being in quarantine when I had whooping cough and scarlet fever - my books from school were collected by the department of health (or whoever) and fumigated - but we were deliberately exposed to whatever 'bug' was going around, in the hope we would catch it and develop immunity.

The only time my dear old Dad got flu was the year he had a flu shot.. :D

I learned about Spanish Flu in history lessons.

Hurlabrick Feb 1st 2020 6:39 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Oh goodie, a Coronavirus case here in London ON now. Apparently a student returned from China through TO and studying at a local college was tested 'mildly positive'. At this stage, I do not plan to change my behaviour as regards going places. Crabby Joes tonight to watch the hockey!

Expatrick Feb 1st 2020 6:45 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12799913)
I'm sure if I started a thread about farting it'd get around to Brexit sooner or later!

Go on, I dare you!

You're right, brexit is a bit like a virus!

scrubbedexpat091 Feb 1st 2020 7:06 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I had chicken pox as a child of the 80's, and bacterial meningitis as an infant of the late 70's and strep throat a couple times along with bronchitis and pneumonia, but never had measles, mumps, rubella, whooping cough or any of those, vaccines for those were required for entry to public school plus my parents were not ones to not vaccinate.... No chicken pox vaccine during that era yet, so I had to go through that misery, I was so sick, and my sister barely got sick from it, but me I was covered head to toe and my mom put in the bath tub and literally poured that pink lotion over me as I had so many pox blisters, it was horrible.

I assume I had the polio vaccine as well, never been tested for immunity for polio and have no vaccine records as they are long lost, but I assume it was still being given in 1979/1980.



Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12799937)
As a child of the 50's I had whooping cough, scarlet fever, scarletina, measles, mumps (twice), german measles (rubella), tonsillitis (now called strep throat apparently) numerous times, as well as ear infection after ear infection.... oh and suspected lockjaw from falling and cutting my leg open on a farm. I've also had chicken pox and meningitis as an adult and I was exposed to TB when our mother had it. Amazing I'm still alive really according to the doom and gloom pro vaccine troops; the only innoculation I ever had was polio vaccine on a sugar lump - a tetanus shot post cut -(and yellow fever and smallpox before I went to Hong Kong) - I had a very nasty bout of Flu A a few years ago, which I was very ill from for weeks and didn't recover for months........ but you know what they say "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger".

I remember being in quarantine when I had whooping cough and scarlet fever - my books from school were collected by the department of health (or whoever) and fumigated - but we were deliberately exposed to whatever 'bug' was going around, in the hope we would catch it and develop immunity.

The only time my dear old Dad got flu was the year he had a flu shot.. :D

I learned about Spanish Flu in history lessons.


caretaker Feb 3rd 2020 3:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
If the Chinese government is covering any cases of the virus up, it could be in the detention camps where a million Uighur people have been kept for political and religious re-education.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6497137/a...tention-camps/

Danny B Feb 3rd 2020 4:10 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12799913)
I'm sure if I started a thread about farting it'd get around to Brexit sooner or later!

Kinda like 'Godwin's law' but for Brexit instead of Hitler :lol:

spouse of scouse Feb 3rd 2020 4:11 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12800896)
Kinda like 'Godwin's law' but for Brexit instead of Hitler :lol:

Yep, just like that :lol:

plasticcanuck Feb 3rd 2020 4:27 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I foresee the day when many nations of the world will have permanent isolation/containment camps, each with its own airfield/hospital facilities. Then sufferers of such medical conditions as this virus can be transported home and more easily quarantined and reducing exposure risks to other members of society.


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