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Shard Jul 24th 2020 3:49 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12885960)
On the Hamilton website they have the number of infected in each census tract ..which gives a good idea of where you are less likely to catch it.
https://www.hamilton.ca/coronavirus/...es-in-hamilton = pan down to the map at the bottom - you can keep zooming in to specific streets etc., :)

That's awesome. Ever local authority should be doing this.

Siouxie Jul 24th 2020 5:43 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12886661)
That's awesome. Ever local authority should be doing this.

I agree :) I also like that you can select a CT area, find out how many people live there - the number of cases of Covid - and the ratio that works out as - this one is where Mohawk College is (full of students)
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...c3b172d40e.jpg

dbd33 Jul 24th 2020 6:10 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by abner (Post 12886638)
As a champagne socialist, I'm sure you could find a beach where you didn't have to mix with mere "people", particularly in Canada, where most beaches just aren't that crowded, even in summer.

Wasaga? Grand Bend? I mean I love a vomit splattered promenade as much as anyone else who on some nights still sleeps on the beach but the charm of it is in the wobbling masses exhibiting their pasty blubber. The muscle cars and the Harleys, the constant whiff of weed, The beach is a white trash heaven and, if there's somewhere one can catch any of the popular contagious diseases that's it.

abner Jul 24th 2020 6:52 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12886742)
Wasaga? Grand Bend? I mean I love a vomit splattered promenade as much as anyone else who on some nights still sleeps on the beach but the charm of it is in the wobbling masses exhibiting their pasty blubber. The muscle cars and the Harleys, the constant whiff of weed, The beach is a white trash heaven and, if there's somewhere one can catch any of the popular contagious diseases that's it.

Not necessarily suited to your exalted tastes, nor your aversion to Covid-19 either, but also not what I was suggesting.

Ontario has 55,000 or so lakes, last I heard, plus numerous rivers connecting them all, some with their own riverine beaches, so I'm sure an enterprising BE poster such as yourself can find a near-solitary waterfront recreational opportunity if you want. Or just hang out in Lake Joseph / Muskoka / Rosseau, and order up the champers dockside.

dbd33 Jul 24th 2020 7:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by abner (Post 12886755)
Or just hang out in Lake Joseph / Muskoka / Rosseau, and order up the champers dockside.

I see pictures of those places and all I can think is "bugs, bugs, bugs". Between the mosquitoes and the drunk politicians mowing down innocents in their boats, Mjuskoka looks like a yahoo Henry kind of hell. On the other hand, a colleague tells me that she once had a wonderful evening that started at the Key in Bala and involved enjoying a "spit roast", jolly fun I'm sure, but again it's lots of people in very close proximity to one another, some of them exerting themselves, it's really not safe.

It's a grim choice really, stay at home, go somewhere indoors and catch the virus, or go outside and deal with the bugs, the bears, the coyotes, the blistering heat or the bone chilling cold. At least alone here in my kitchen, I may feel there's something missing, but there's no virus.

abner Jul 24th 2020 9:23 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12886783)
...she once had a wonderful evening that started at the Key in Bala and involved enjoying a "spit roast", jolly fun I'm sure, but again it's lots of people in very close proximity to one another, some of them exerting themselves...

Well, typically it's only three people in close proximity, and they all exert themselves in one way or another, but YMMV and all that.


Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12886783)
It's a grim choice really, stay at home, go somewhere indoors and catch the virus, or go outside and deal with the bugs, the bears, the coyotes, the blistering heat or the bone chilling cold.

Life is indeed Grimm.

printer Jul 25th 2020 1:59 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 12886494)
...is incorrect.

It is considered a lower risk than indoors, provided distancing and hygiene is observed, but it is still considered a risk & actually is a risk, not just to oneself but to others by default. In fact how long the droplets are airborne is being revisited as is the notion of long term immunity.

Let governments and agencies off the hook by doing the hard yards and the right thing. Do that individually, for the community, for a nation. No complaining one cannot get a pint , a take away, a meal out. If one wants to support those businesses one can always donate said payment instead.

Meanwhile work hard re this killer virus first and foremost. Deal with the dreadful fall out best one can. Above all , be honest. Be very honest about what this does. Just don't shoehorn piecemeal so-called solutions to appease . It will not work long term other than to kill.

Perhaps it is time for the world economy to reset itself ( in simple terms) It has been heading down a bad path now for a very long time.

The risk is low compared to many other things yes, there is a new info doc here:
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...wers-1.5037897

You can go to get a haircut but its more risky than going to the beach. One assumes that many people will indeed visit hairdressers, head to the office or eat at an outdoor patio but this doc says they are all more risky than the beach. There is a risk in everything we do every day unless you don't move off the sofa. Accidents at home while attempting DIY are right up there with the risk factors but we do it anyway. Of course it doesn't affect other people so it's considered ok. People in general are just getting to that point where they have had their fill of statistics and gloom and restrictions and they just want to live their life and they don't give a rats. It's human nature, you may feel obligated to stay indoors or wear a mask when out, others don't. Same as you may well keep to the speed limit and wear your seatbelt, others don't. We will never get 100% compliance so we have to live with what we have and government advice is what we are hearing almost daily, trouble is its also changing daily. Masks mandatory in shops in England from today, well unless you are staff, then its up to you. Different rules in Scotland and Wales. Canada not much better with variations on advice depending on what province you are from.

Danny B Jul 25th 2020 2:01 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
I went to the dentist this afternoon for my 6 month checkup. Was quite the experience.
  • Walked in and had my temp checked
  • Mask up
  • told to sanitize hands
  • had to gargle some awful tasting mouthwash before they started
  • No polishing
  • No aerosol spray
  • was in and out in 30 minutes (compared to 1hr before COVID)
  • had to pay $6 more due to them wearing PPE

This bloody virus has a lot to answer for.

printer Jul 25th 2020 2:17 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12886881)
I went to the dentist this afternoon for my 6 month checkup. Was quite the experience.
  • Walked in and had my temp checked
  • Mask up
  • told to sanitize hands
  • had to gargle some awful tasting mouthwash before they started
  • No polishing
  • No aerosol spray
  • was in and out in 30 minutes (compared to 1hr before COVID)
  • had to pay $6 more due to them wearing PPE

This bloody virus has a lot to answer for.

Did you have to remove the mask? :lol:

BEVS Jul 25th 2020 3:27 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12886783)
It's a grim choice really, stay at home, go somewhere indoors and catch the virus, or go outside and deal with the bugs, the bears, the coyotes, the blistering heat or the bone chilling cold. At least alone here in my kitchen, I may feel there's something missing, but there's no virus.

We've none of that. Bears, coyotes and bugs I mean. It's all open and safe ( atm) . Me and him are considering a campervan holiday down south whilst the hordes are not allowed in. The place is usually crowded & over run with all manner of tourists. Just enjoy the place and what it has to offer whilst it is free of shoulder to should jostling crowds. We are not the only ones of course. Many folks are venturing forth to make hay whilst the sun shines.


Jsmth321 Jul 25th 2020 5:06 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Another exposure site has been identified in Kelowna.

Fossello’s clothing store, 565 Bernard Avenue, on July 18 or on the morning of July 20 (10 a.m. – 12 p.m.) are asked to self-monitor themselves closely for symptoms of COVID-19 and to get tested if they begin to exhibit symptoms.

37 per cent of new cases in the previous 7 days have been people in the 20-29 age range in BC.

Interior Health reported the largest number of cases in the same time frame with 92.

Interior Health was doing well until Canada Day, seems young people coming up from the lower mainland and Alberta brought a gift that keeps on giving.

This is the same age range that complains about "boomers" not wearing masks.


caretaker Jul 25th 2020 11:25 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
The Hungarian club introduced a new protocol yesterday; upon entering and using the hand sanitizer provided just inside, we are now required to enter the time and our membership numbers, to facilitate tracking in case of an outbreak. The Serbian Club, which hasn't yet activated the members-only rule, doesn't require everyone to sign in, but they have good video surveillance, which the Hun lacks.

Shard Jul 25th 2020 12:08 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12886927)
Another exposure site has been identified in Kelowna.

Fossello’s clothing store, 565 Bernard Avenue, on July 18 or on the morning of July 20 (10 a.m. – 12 p.m.) are asked to self-monitor themselves closely for symptoms of COVID-19 and to get tested if they begin to exhibit symptoms.

37 per cent of new cases in the previous 7 days have been people in the 20-29 age range in BC.

Interior Health reported the largest number of cases in the same time frame with 92.

Interior Health was doing well until Canada Day, seems young people coming up from the lower mainland and Alberta brought a gift that keeps on giving.

This is the same age range that complains about "boomers" not wearing masks.

Are boomers not wearing masks out in the Interior?

magnumpi Jul 25th 2020 1:56 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12887000)
Are boomers not wearing masks out in the Interior?

Adhere to the glory hole mandates and this would not happen

Jsmth321 Jul 25th 2020 4:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12887000)
Are boomers not wearing masks out in the Interior?

It's the running complaint online with young people in Vancouver blaming boomers for not wearing masks, but reality is I saw just as many 50+ people wearing masks as I did 30 and under wearing masks, there seemed to be no consistency in mask wearing based on age. But Vancouver young adults seem to have this massive hate for boomers, its really odd to read and listen to. They seem to think all boomers are wealthy and sitting on piles of cash.

In Kelowna, I don't see high mask usage, at least compared to Vancouver, but its mostly older people wearing masks from what I have noticed, not young people. But there is far less masks being worn in general out this way, which seems consistent with the lower mainland as well, the more blue collar and conservative areas of the LM have less mask usage as well.




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