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Is it OK to have a different second vaccine to your first?
I've had the AstraZeneca but it now looks like they have run out of supplies and no new delivery in the pipeline I will have to have a different second jab..

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Quebec plans to do that in some cases, 2nd dose may not be the same manufacturer but appears they are only doing it with mRNA vaccines.

But with the AZ future deliveries unknown, will be interesting to see how provinces handle it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...izer-1.5998847

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I have read that is something the scientists are researching, but as far as I know no decision has been made to date.

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Looks like research is happening on that front and data should be available by summer.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/your-fi...izer-1.5397401

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After all the hassle sorting out my wife's vaccine appointment as she is immune compromised today i get text telling me i can book. I am now booked in 10 minutes before her. :rofl:

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Kelowna patient concerned about hospital staff not wearing masks.

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More people dying at home in Ontario, becoming so sick so quickly they don't have time to seek medical attention.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/covid...oner-1.6000327

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Most recent additions to BC CDC flight list of flights with positive cases.

• April 8: Swoop flight 204 from Abbotsford to Edmonton (rows not reported)
  
• April 10: Air Canada flight 241 from Edmonton to Vancouver (rows 28 to 34)
  
• April 10: Air Canada/Jazz flight 8622 from Vancouver to Winnipeg (rows 20 to 26)
  
• April 12: Air Canada/Jazz flight 8622 from Vancouver to Winnipeg (rows 19 to 25)
  
• April 13: Air Canada flight 306 from Vancouver to Montreal (rows 27 to 32)
  
• April 14: WestJet flight 3109 from Calgary to Nanaimo (rows five to 18)
  
• April 14: Swoop flight 201 from Edmonton to Abbotsford (rows 20 to 26)
  
• April 14: Air Canada flight 45 from Delhi to Vancouver (rows one to six, 12 to 14, 18 to 28 and 41 to 46)
  
• April 14: WestJet flight 3171 from Calgary to Comox (rows 14 to 20)
  
• April 15: Air Canada/Jazz flight 8398 from Vancouver to Kelowna (rows one to seven)
  
• April 16: Air Canada flight 215 from Calgary to Vancouver (rows 13 to 19)
  
• April 16: Sunwing flight 2860 from Mexico City to Vancouver (rows 16 to 22)
  
• April 16: WestJet flight 3287 from Vancouver to Prince George (rows one to seven)
  
• April 17: Air Canada flight 45 from Delhi to Vancouver (rows 20 to 30 and 34 to 40)
  
• April 18: Air India flight 185 from Delhi to Vancouver (rows 20 to 24 and 42 to 46)
  
• April 18: WestJet flight 4442 from Calgary to Kelowna (rows 11 to 17)
  
• April 18: Air Canada flight 123 from Toronto to Vancouver (rows 19 to 25)
  
• April 18: Air Canada flight 45 from Delhi to Vancouver (rows 18 to 34 and 54 to 60)
  
• April 19: Air Canada flight 127 from Toronto to Vancouver (rows 24 to 30)
  
• April 19: Air India flight 185 from Delhi to Vancouver (rows 19 to 25)
  
• April 20: Air Canada flight 241 from Edmonton to Vancouver (rows 21 to 27)
  
• April 20: Air Canada/Jazz flight 8261 from Vancouver to Nanaimo (rows three to nine)
  
• April 21: Air Canada flight 45 from Delhi to Vancouver (rows 12 to 14, 23 to 30 and 32 to 46)
  
• April 21: Air Canada flight 185 from Delhi to Vancouver (rows not reported)
  

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NS in 2 week shut down, announced ca 5:30 pm last Thursday, initially Halifax Metro region but now extended to the whole province.

It seems people travelled from Ontario to NS, did not quarantine (ignored 14 days quarantine period), met up with relations and friends.

30 people were infected from that contact alone, cases now increasing. Schools are open in some areas eg Halifax municipal unless there has been a case reported, then that school is closed for 2 weeks . All schools in some districts have been closed regardless.

Anyone with any possibility of being infected has to go and be tested ....... this includes school children and teachers plus all their family members if there has been a case in their school. Parents of school children also have to quarantine for 2 weeks and supervise online teaching.

It is the most cases that NS has had during the whole pandemic period.

The Ontarians are now apparently back in Ontario, suggestions that they should be traced and fined or jailed.

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That's a lot of flights. After commercial air travel was curtailed last year I looked at a flight tracker site and was surprised at how many planes were still operating. I can drive about 16 hours to Oliver, get out once in the middle to pump gas in Fort McLeod, and with a little planning and a bag lunch (or picking up food curbside) not come near anyone the whole trip. That's got to be a lot safer than flying.
Our numbers and test positivity continue to trend high. I've only been interacting closely with 3 friends, who have been taking me to appointments and shopping, tons of help since I got hurt, and 1 of them just found out someone he works beside every day tested positive on Friday and was just notified. Everyone has been self monitoring anyway, but this is just another worry. A 2nd hand case like that doesn't preclude my physio or surgeon's appointments, so the regular mask and sanitizer.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...3eed9cddd5.jpg

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It looks like the EU may be taking a lead on vaccine passports. I very much hope other jurisdictions not least Canada follow soon.

American tourists who have been fully vaccinated against Covid-19 will be allowed to visit the European Union this summer, a top official told The Times.

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I wish they would stop talking about "covid passports".

It should be called a vaccination record card ......... just like the ones that we used to have to show whether we had received any childhood vaccinations.

I had one that only showed my polio vaccinations, because there weren't any other vaccinations in the 1940s. But we had a full card for my daughter born in the 1970s.

Vaccination record sounds a lot less officious than "passport", and could possibly be more likely accepted by more people.

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Countries may want more official proof than just the record received when getting the vaccine which can be easily faked in many countries including Canada, so I could see why a more official vaccine passport might be necessary.

Some in BC are just hand written on a card, anyone with a decent printer can create said card, mine is a little better as it is at least a printed prescription label, but I could see countries wanting a universal type document that is more difficult to forge and easier to ensure its valid and authentic.

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However, the covid "passport" can also be faked, or at least the versions so far suggested. So that might not be good for very long.

Plus, there is apparently a lot of resistance in the UK against having to carry a covid passport, as more "officious control". Also questions from business owners as to how they are expected to check them.

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I believe there would be a good case for anyone wishing to take action against this idea.. due to human rights / discrimination.
I very much hope NO countries implement them. Other countries are already taking action against them. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-h...-idUSKBN2BP0H3
Some people can't have the vaccine due to underlying health issues - if they implemented 'covid passports (record of vaccination)' then that would be discriminating against those that aren't able to obtain one, through no fault of their own.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56125142
https://www.wxyz.com/news/coronaviru...rney-weighs-in

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Jesus, look at all those inbound flights from Delhi :eek:

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ohdearwhatashamenevermind.

Passports/Certificates offer the best way forward for the largest number of people. They allow more business to resume. The alternative is eternal lock down.

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​​​​​​Vaccination passports are coming that's a given and the sooner the better! There will be a workaround for anyone who genuinely can't get vacinated which I think it will probably involve enhanced testing.

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Even if it is decided that vaccine PPs are against human rights... countries have the right to refuse entry to anyone who cannotshow proof of vaccination. Who can blame them after what the world has been through the last 14 months?

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A weird quirk of the 'rona is that the price of items some might consider luxuries, horses, old cars, dogs, has gone up dramatically. I think this might be because people have a lot of equity in their houses and, with low interest rates, can use some of it, The lack of commuting frees time for animals and money that once went on petrol and work clothes is now available for other uses.

I've heard a few people say that they're in no rush to get vaccinated for fear of being forced back to commuting and I know of firms that have given up rented office space. I wonder if this is a genie that won't be shoved back in the bottle, if this is the moment when working from home became more usual than going to an office.

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You clearly have insider knowledge.... do tell!

Couldn't disagree more.

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Years ago we all needed to show proof of smallpox vaccination to enter Australia for a 10 month long stay. However, my daughter could not have the vaccination because she showed signs of eczema in one small area of her body and the doctor said there was no way she could receive the vaccine.

He had to provide a letter to me that I could show to all authorities to show why she had not had the jab. She also had to be inspected by a doctor whenever it was requested.

The result of that was we arrived In Perth at midnight, had to show the letter to the Health people, and then they had to send for a doctor to come out to the airport. It took about an hour for the doctor to show up, he took a quick glance at my daughter, asked where we had been in the last several months, then said she was fine and could be admitted. We were then allowed to re-board the plane to continue on to Melbourne.

So there are ways and means around the problem of someone not being able to get a certain vaccine without discriminating against them.

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The difference being that the 'covid vaccine' does not protect anyone against catching it nor passing it on - it reportedly can only enhance your chances of not becoming dangerously ill... but will require 'top up' booster shots, just like a flu vaccine does.(confirmed by many health professionals)... in other words, it valueless for determining if you might have or pass on covid on entry to a country. It's quite different to having to have smallpox / yellow fever innoculations etc., (which I also had to have before going to live in Hong Kong / visit Australia etc.,) as those did offer protection against catching or passing them on.

According to many legal documents available to be viewd, it's being stated that to require 'covid passports' could be construed as discriminatory. Will a 'Covid passport' be required to go to a restaurant / go to watch a film / go to the theatre / get on a train etc., ??

I'm not anti vaccine at all - I'm just anti 'covid passport', there will be a sharp increase in faked ones, a black market etc., - as some have already been discovered. It's just asking for trouble.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-56489574
https://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-...ems-for-travel

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I agree that the covid is more like flu than anything else, but I was trying to show that there are ways and means of not discriminating against someone.

I'm also with you on being anti-covid passport.

If a business or store or restaurant only wants to do business with me if I have a covid passport, then it's simple ........... if I can avoid doing business with them I will. There's usually other fish in the ocean who will take my money! I already do most of my shopping online, deal with my doctor online, and deal with the bank and my financial advisor online.

I have had my first jab of Pfizer, back on March 30th, and will wait for my second some time in July or early August (16 weeks after the first one).

If we then have to have booster shots every six months (as I read somewhere) or every year, then it will be just like having the flu shot every year, hopefully either at the doctor's office or the local pharmacy.

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Happily I got my 2nd Pfizer shot down here in Virginia yesterday, with there never having been any hassle/cost/awkwardness or any actual residency requirement involved for me being a foreign visitor down here.

So I've found that in practice it's totally easy & straightforward getting a freebie full vaccination down here in the U.S., and that one then simply has to email the provincial health authority back home with a photo of the U.S. vaccination documentation, in order to have one's Canadian hralth record updated with one's new Covid vaccination status.

Woke up at T-plus 12hrs with upper arm soreness & a general feeling of disequilibrium/fragility/achiness, but am deliberately soldiering-on sans any Tylenol so far, while my immune system gets to continue learning its ABCs concerning SARS-CoV-2's tell-tale spike protein.

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That's wonderful for you. And yet, there are many US Citizens and legal US residents who still have not be able to get the vaccination. And yes, we pay for the vaccine. My healthcare insurance was billed for both doses and paid for both and they have paid for all 4 of my covid tests.

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Nobody I know has had to pay to be vaccinated, I certainly did not.

I only have had one test and that was free but that seems a different situation as some you certainly pay for.

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Initiative, as always, is at a premium. I neither queue-jumped nor stole nor misrepresented myself down here in any way, shape, or form in order to get myself vaccinated. I merely hoofed it down to the local pharmacy & volunteered myself to receive any Pfizer that was end-of-day expiring, which they would otherwise have had to throw out. So, in essence, & apart from the pharmacist's (private-sector) time to administer it, I basically got vaccinated out of the U.S. taxpayers' (your) trash bin, for which I am, honestly, thankful. So thanks.

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I always like to think the best of people. I see from those links that these fakes are available on the dark web. I wouldn't have a clue how to do that. Is it anything like not having a clue how to buy an illegal gun so you ask around, putting yourself in all kinds of danger of being caught or just at the mercy of villains. :lol:

Of course, sooner or later such things might be more 'freely' advertised elsewhere. Since I was a teenager I remember fake documents being advertised in private eye.

But there's a bit of a difference in forking out a few quid for a fake ID to buy a pint and the $150 or more mentioned in the BBC link. Maybe I'm just a bit cowardly in that I wouldn't risk spending a not small sum and then trying to gain entry to another country and ending up in Bangkok Hilton or writing a book based on my experience in a Turkish Prison - Midnight Express 2 :rofl:

Of course I'm exaggerating and looking at travel as opposed to common or garden dining out or whatever.

But I would imagine that people who haven't had a vax but then needed a document to say they had in order to access something would be much more likely to get vaccinated and produce a genuine document for free than they would go down the fake/expensive/risky path.

And if that increases the vaccine take up then all's good - or at least better than it was.

Taking Scilly's point, I suppose the document could be called something generic - like a Covid Visa - with the vaccinated and exempt but clear qualifying for one and nobody needing to know what the qualification was, therefore no discrimination.

Kind of like Dinner Tickets at school back in the day where nobody knew whether you'd paid for them or got them as free school meals. :unsure:

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Please keep in mind that this is the Canada forum... if you want to post about your experiences on getting the Covid vaccine in the USA please post to: https://britishexpats.com/forum/take...art-ii-931990/
Cheers!
:)

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The relevance here is actually that I am a Canadian simply reporting in here for the benefit of any compatriot who may be wondering about options, given the present procurement & perforced 4mo dose-spacing debacle that's playing out in Ottawa.

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I'd suggest "The Maple Leaf" group description that has been the same for the 15 years I've been on this forum needs to be updated then. Last I looked it was supposed to be all about off topic conversation between folk where they can have fun and engage.
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Sticklers for nice neat bureaucratic proprieties have always gotten my goat throughout life.

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It was a gentle reminder.. a request.. my next step can be deleting any off topic posts, if you would prefer.. :banghead:

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A Quebec woman who received the AZ vaccine has died due to a clot, 54 years old.

I wont lie, even with the 1 in 100,000 chance the article mentions, its still a worry, I probably should have waited, the anxiety this is causing during the few weeks of highest risk is getting to me...

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You did the right thing getting the vaccine.

The threat of covid is far greater and when you look at the success of the vaccine elsewhere it is our best and fastest path back to a more normal existence.

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+1

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Odds are on my side, just worrying is all, especially with a headache that just wont go away, but doctor said its nothing, so I will take the doctors word that it is nothing, I assume they know what they are doing.

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Too much over thinking going on regarding the vaccines. When I had an operation a few years back the doctor said there was a 2% chance I wouldn't make it which at the time didn't even make me blink as I looked on it as a 98% chance of success. The 1in 100,000 (in realality 1 in a million) are odds that count on a population scale but that no particular individual should be concerned about.