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caretaker Apr 19th 2021 11:33 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12997122)
I registered with shoppers drug mart, but no appointments available at the moment, other pharmacies still have outdated information that its 55+ maybe once everything is updated will see, but at least I am registered at Shoppers and chose any location to widen my chances.

Hang in there Jsmith! Good to know they're opening it up this fast.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 20th 2021 12:22 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12997124)
Hang in there Jsmith! Good to know they're opening it up this fast.


Wed hopefully :fingerscrossed:

I got a confirmation but always a risk of appointments being cancelled. Not at Shoppers though.

caretaker Apr 20th 2021 12:34 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
In Sask we get nifty stickers with our vaccination.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...12cd51ba71.jpg

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 20th 2021 12:46 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Imagine thinking your vaccinated only to find out you were given saline solution instead of the vaccine, happened in Ontario to 6 people.

https://www.cp24.com/news/6-people-i...cine-1.5393546

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 20th 2021 6:14 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Starting tomorrow North Dakota will offer free vaccines to Manitoba truckers who transport goods across the border.

There is no cost to the truckers or Manitoba. US Government covers the cost of the vaccine and cost to administer it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...kers-1.5994519


scrubbedexpat091 Apr 21st 2021 9:37 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Easy peasy on the vaccine front, no pain at time of vaccination, but arm is a bit sore now, and I feeling pretty tired suddenly which could be expected, easy process, 30 minutes total.


scrubbedexpat091 Apr 22nd 2021 12:34 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
7 day rolling average continues downward.

483 people are in hospital, 164 of whom are in intensive care.

The travel rules and clarification on what is essential should be announced Friday.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...l-21-1.5996606




Some hints on the travel restrictions. The lower mainland will be treated as one health region (it's actually 2 VCH and FH) and road blocks it sounds like will be at BC Ferry terminals, and somewhere near Hope mostly, and wont be widespread.



scrubbedexpat091 Apr 22nd 2021 1:51 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
39 cases of B 1.617 are been found in BC, the variant currently causing massive issues in India.

Identified in early April.

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...-is-now-in-b-c


Danny B Apr 22nd 2021 3:17 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Those poor buggers in Delhi right now, I can't even imagine. They say the oxygen supply will run out in the next 2hrs....absolutely heartbreaking to watch the news coverage of it.

scrubbedexpat099 Apr 22nd 2021 3:29 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-56839099

Very distressing.

It did seem logical that highly populated areas would be hot harder, I for one do not understand how it has been delayed, a new mutation? Why did the UK and the US get it so hard? Perhaps it is just a question of time before things even out.

Danny B Apr 22nd 2021 4:27 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12998121)
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-56839099

Very distressing.

It did seem logical that highly populated areas would be hot harder, I for one do not understand how it has been delayed, a new mutation? Why did the UK and the US get it so hard? Perhaps it is just a question of time before things even out.

Meanwhile in BC, I cannot drive to Vancouver but flights from India are still arriving. I really hope the passengers are quarantined for 14 days, we should be tough on arrivals from India right now.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...iant-1.5997402


scrubbedexpat099 Apr 22nd 2021 4:55 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12998131)
Meanwhile in BC, I cannot drive to Vancouver but flights from India are still arriving. I really hope the passengers are quarantined for 14 days, we should be tough on arrivals from India right now.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...iant-1.5997402

UK put India on their red list but gave people a week to come in, where is the science in that?

Jerseygirl Apr 22nd 2021 5:09 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12998138)
UK put India on their red list but gave people a week to come in, where is the science in that?

2 planes per day arrive in Toronto from India. That should have been stopped a while ago.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 22nd 2021 5:20 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12998131)
Meanwhile in BC, I cannot drive to Vancouver but flights from India are still arriving. I really hope the passengers are quarantined for 14 days, we should be tough on arrivals from India right now.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...iant-1.5997402


Feds should just stop all international air travel to/from Canada for the time being, or raise landing fees to 1 million for international arrivals and have the airlines suspend service as airlines wont pay a 1 million landing fee.

Of the 20 international (including US flights) flights that originated outside of Canada currently on BCCDC exposure list, 14 are from Delhi.

The 39 cases of the variant from India reported in BC yesterday were actually from a couple weeks ago, with delayed reporting so its been here a couple weeks already at least.


Other odd thing about the proposed travel restrictions, is the plan is to just put signs up at the BC/Alberta border reminding Albertans not to travel to BC, you'd think they could just put some RCMP or send some BC sheriffs or conservation officers or commercial vehicle officers and turn people away.

Albertans wont get into the Lower Mainland most likely as they do appear to be planning check points in Hope, but Hope is still pretty far from Alberta.

Or you can just fly around BC, doesn't seem to be any plans to halt flying, but airlines are federal jurisdiction so guess province can't do anything there.




BristolUK Apr 22nd 2021 5:52 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12998131)
Meanwhile in BC, I cannot drive to Vancouver but flights from India are still arriving. I really hope the passengers are quarantined for 14 days, we should be tough on arrivals from India right now.


Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12998148)
Feds should just stop all international air travel to/from Canada for the time being...
Of the 20 international (including US flights) flights that originated outside of Canada currently on BCCDC exposure list, 14 are from Delhi.

It does make you wonder just how much travel is essential as opposed to desirable.

I remember the early days of covid as the cases were announced. Travel related. Linked to prior cases...in other words also travel related.

I wonder what would have happened if the world had just stopped travelling. Goods transports excepted, other absolutely essential stuff to be done via chartered planes, because if it was that essential they'd pay. Immigration on hold... if they are that essential and employers pay relocation costs they can charter the plane too.
Perhaps do it like a car sharing system. If you want to fly in to NS and there are a dozen people 'needing' to be in Montreal, Toronto, whoever 'needs' you to be in NS buys you onto the plane going there and arranges for your onward transport.

Maybe by adopting such an approach everything would have been much more manageable and every couple of months open a travel window for one way journeys - so as to discourage non (or less) essential trips...just allow the immigration to go ahead, separated families to reunite, the stranded to return etc.

You have to wonder if life couldn't pretty much have continued, just without the travel, and we could have started vaccinating with fewer having died or getting long covid. :unsure:




scrubbedexpat099 Apr 22nd 2021 6:12 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I would think the majority of my travel and that of people I know falls into non essential.

Danny B Apr 22nd 2021 6:58 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12998165)
It does make you wonder just how much travel is essential as opposed to desirable.

I remember the early days of covid as the cases were announced. Travel related. Linked to prior cases...in other words also travel related.

I wonder what would have happened if the world had just stopped travelling. Goods transports excepted, other absolutely essential stuff to be done via chartered planes, because if it was that essential they'd pay. Immigration on hold... if they are that essential and employers pay relocation costs they can charter the plane too.
Perhaps do it like a car sharing system. If you want to fly in to NS and there are a dozen people 'needing' to be in Montreal, Toronto, whoever 'needs' you to be in NS buys you onto the plane going there and arranges for your onward transport.

Maybe by adopting such an approach everything would have been much more manageable and every couple of months open a travel window for one way journeys - so as to discourage non (or less) essential trips...just allow the immigration to go ahead, separated families to reunite, the stranded to return etc.

You have to wonder if life couldn't pretty much have continued, just without the travel, and we could have started vaccinating with fewer having died or getting long covid. :unsure:

Love him or hate him, at least Trump had the balls to create travel bans for people flying from mainland China & certain European countries back in Feb/March 2020. If he did this in December 2019 it would be a completely different story now. Crazy how fast the virus spread once it hit Washington state.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 22nd 2021 8:12 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Spoke to a pharmacy today where we were on a wait list, they had a couple extra doses, told them we already had ours, and they have over 800 people on their wait list.


dbd33 Apr 22nd 2021 8:23 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12998203)
Love him or hate him, at least Trump had the balls to create travel bans for people flying from mainland China

Wasn't it the case that he only banned Chinese nationals flying from China? White people could come and go at will.

Revin Kevin Apr 22nd 2021 8:44 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
US border closure extended. The way things are looking in Canada is it the US that are now going to benifit the most from this continued closure?


"Canada and U.S. Land Border Closure Extended for Non-essential Travel Till May 21st | Travel + Leisure" https://www.travelandleisure.com/tra...ended?amp=true

Danny B Apr 22nd 2021 9:19 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12998238)
Wasn't it the case that he only banned Chinese nationals flying from China? White people could come and go at will.

I don't think he was that explicit with the color of their skin. It barred foreigners of all colors from entering the U.S. if they had recently been to China.

American citizens who were evacuated from Wuhan earlier that week would be quarantined for 14 days at March Air Reserve Base in Southern California. Something like that, feels like years ago now.

Danny B Apr 22nd 2021 9:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Revin Kevin (Post 12998249)
US border closure extended. The way things are looking in Canada is it the US that are now going to benifit the most from this continued closure?


"Canada and U.S. Land Border Closure Extended for Non-essential Travel Till May 21st | Travel + Leisure" https://www.travelandleisure.com/tra...ended?amp=true

It must suck to live in Point Roberts, Washington right now.

caretaker Apr 22nd 2021 9:52 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12998266)
It must suck to live in Point Roberts, Washington right now.

How can it have gone on this long and nobody's applied a solution? Easy to call it Fire Base Pt Roberts and chopper in the steaks and beer and take out the wounded, but why not have a closed bus allowed to run whoever wants to get back to Washington proper over the border? When I went to Old Mexico they had a nasty green bus with steel mesh over the windows, and that's what you rode from the aduena at Laredo to about 10 miles south of the border, where there was a modern bus waiting. I guess if nobody can get into Point Roberts and nobody can get out, nobody's going to give them covid.

Jerseygirl Apr 22nd 2021 10:24 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12998140)
2 planes per day arrive in Toronto from India. That should have been stopped a while ago.

From midnight tonight all flights from India and Pakistan are cancelled for 30 days. This includes cargo planes, except for those carrying PPE/vaccines. :thumbsup:


Edit: In the last 2 weeks 32 flights have landed in Canada with at least 1 COVID positive passenger on each flight.

Danny B Apr 22nd 2021 10:25 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Hoo-Rah!

Canada to ban flights from India and Pakistan for 30 days.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fli...ndia-1.5997880

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 22nd 2021 11:08 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
There has been a bit of relaxation for Pt. Roberts, well for those who reside in Pt. Roberts. Pt. Roberts residents can cross for essential reasons to get to the main US border crossing, and have been exempted from land border testing requirements. I don't believe they are allowed to stop anywhere in Canada, just allowed to drive from Pt. Roberts to Peace Arch and only for essential reasons.

An emergency ferry has also been set up, operates on Tue and Fri and is free.6:30 AM Depart Bellingham Cruise Terminal
8:30 AM Arrive Point Roberts Marina

9:00 AM Depart Point Roberts Marina
11:00 AM Arrive Bellingham Cruise Terminal

3:00 PM Depart Bellingham Cruise Terminal
5:00 PM Arrive Point Roberts Marina

5:30 PM Depart Point Roberts Marina
7:30 PM Arrive Bellingham Cruise Terminal

San Juan Airlines also provides air service on Tuesdays.


Biggest issue for Pt. Roberts isn't local residents being able to get out, but Canadian's not being able to go in, town relies almost entirely on Canadian's so no Canadians and no local economy.

Pt. Roberts has an estimated 1,100 year round residents, as of April 15 461 of those were vaccinated with at least 1 dose and they did 57 more last weekend so most likely now over 500 residents are at least 1 vaccine, so if the town gets to a point where 80-90% have the vaccine, what point is there to even keep that border crossing closed?



BC surpassed 500 people in hospital today, and will postpone some 1,700 surgeries.






Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12998279)
How can it have gone on this long and nobody's applied a solution? Easy to call it Fire Base Pt Roberts and chopper in the steaks and beer and take out the wounded, but why not have a closed bus allowed to run whoever wants to get back to Washington proper over the border? When I went to Old Mexico they had a nasty green bus with steel mesh over the windows, and that's what you rode from the aduena at Laredo to about 10 miles south of the border, where there was a modern bus waiting. I guess if nobody can get into Point Roberts and nobody can get out, nobody's going to give them covid.


scrubbedexpat091 Apr 22nd 2021 11:18 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
The official notice from the government website.

As of April 22, 2021, at 11:30 p.m. (EDT), the Government of Canada will suspend flights from India for a period of 30 days, following the identification of a new variant of the COVID-19.

During that period, passengers who travel to Canada from India via an indirect route will need to obtain a pre-departure negative COVID-19 molecular test result from a third country before continuing their journey to Canada.



Danny B Apr 22nd 2021 11:35 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12998301)
There has been a bit of relaxation for Pt. Roberts, well for those who reside in Pt. Roberts. Pt. Roberts residents can cross for essential reasons to get to the main US border crossing, and have been exempted from land border testing requirements. I don't believe they are allowed to stop anywhere in Canada, just allowed to drive from Pt. Roberts to Peace Arch and only for essential reasons..

Point Roberts is an accident of cartographic malfeasance. It should be returned to Canada.

caretaker Apr 23rd 2021 12:43 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12998318)
Point Roberts is an accident of cartographic malfeasance. It should be returned to Canada.

I went there with my sister and B-I-L to get something out of their trailer years ago and wasn't impressed. They said it was the only place close enough for them to get away on weekends, but I didn't think it was worth going, and they sold up after a few years. Good to know nobody's stranded after all.

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 23rd 2021 12:48 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
Best thing about Pt. Roberts is being able to order from the US and closer access to things like cheese, butter and certain other things not found in Canadian grocery stores....But yeah I don't see the appeal to having a vacation home there.

Early in the pandemic people were stranded, but over time they have gotten some ability to leave via car or ferry, but early in the pandemic people were pretty much stuck there for the first few months.


Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12998336)
I went there with my sister and B-I-L to get something out of their trailer years ago and wasn't impressed. They said it was the only place close enough for them to get away on weekends, but I didn't think it was worth going, and they sold up after a few years. Good to know nobody's stranded after all.


scrubbedexpat091 Apr 23rd 2021 1:16 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
BC functionally out of Astra Zeneca vaccine, demand soared after being opened to 40-54 age group on Monday.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-out-of-ast...cies-1.5398622

printer Apr 23rd 2021 1:51 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12998346)
BC functionally out of Astra Zeneca vaccine, demand soared after being opened to 40-54 age group on Monday.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-out-of-ast...cies-1.5398622

The vaccine booking was it seemed pretty straightforward until that is my wife was told that as she is immune compromised she would be able to get it early. We had at that time already registered so next came a game of cat and mouse to attempt to sort it out. We asked at a pharmacy, he said they don't have any BUT she would have to ask her doctor if it was ok for her to have. She sees (or currently has phone call) from a respiratory specialist who keeps tabs on her every 4 months or so. We called their office and reception said you need to call your GP, so we called his office and had to wait for phone appointment 2 days later. He said "oh i think i put you down as urgent case you should get a letter by 15th" We didn't so clearly he didn't do it. This week she gets her call from respiratory guy who says "you are priority i will e mail the form and you can just call to book". So went online with Interior Health and went round in circles as when you select the section for those with compromised immune systems it shows a link to book but clicking that link sends you back to the register page which we had already done!!!
Finally i called and after a short wait was able to speak to someone who said "oh yes you won't get far with the online system for this" Earliest appointment was May 10th
Lets hope they have some left by then :ohmy:

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 23rd 2021 2:14 am

Re: Coronavirus
 
wow lots of run around there.

next week Canada is due 300,000 J&J which is single shot, a little over 1 million Pfizer and 650,000 Moderna. Pfizer is due to send quite a bit in May, so something should be available on May 10.

Astra Zeneca next delivery isn't known, none scheduled for the near future unless the US sends more up as a loan.

I do worry a bit Canada wont receive enough AZ to provide 2nd doses to everyone who has received a first dose the last couple of months. Seems like an uphill battle in some ways as its the most inconsistent are deliveries and with Serum Institute delaying deliveries to Canada due to the massive outbreak in India, the 1 million expected in April and 500,000 expected in May wont arrive for an unknown period of time.

Best hope is Canada convincing the US to send up at least enough to provide 2nd doses to those who received AZ.



Originally Posted by printer (Post 12998354)
The vaccine booking was it seemed pretty straightforward until that is my wife was told that as she is immune compromised she would be able to get it early. We had at that time already registered so next came a game of cat and mouse to attempt to sort it out. We asked at a pharmacy, he said they don't have any BUT she would have to ask her doctor if it was ok for her to have. She sees (or currently has phone call) from a respiratory specialist who keeps tabs on her every 4 months or so. We called their office and reception said you need to call your GP, so we called his office and had to wait for phone appointment 2 days later. He said "oh i think i put you down as urgent case you should get a letter by 15th" We didn't so clearly he didn't do it. This week she gets her call from respiratory guy who says "you are priority i will e mail the form and you can just call to book". So went online with Interior Health and went round in circles as when you select the section for those with compromised immune systems it shows a link to book but clicking that link sends you back to the register page which we had already done!!!
Finally i called and after a short wait was able to speak to someone who said "oh yes you won't get far with the online system for this" Earliest appointment was May 10th
Lets hope they have some left by then :ohmy:


printer Apr 23rd 2021 6:08 am

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12998356)
wow lots of run around there.

next week Canada is due 300,000 J&J which is single shot, a little over 1 million Pfizer and 650,000 Moderna. Pfizer is due to send quite a bit in May, so something should be available on May 10.

Astra Zeneca next delivery isn't known, none scheduled for the near future unless the US sends more up as a loan.

I do worry a bit Canada wont receive enough AZ to provide 2nd doses to everyone who has received a first dose the last couple of months. Seems like an uphill battle in some ways as its the most inconsistent are deliveries and with Serum Institute delaying deliveries to Canada due to the massive outbreak in India, the 1 million expected in April and 500,000 expected in May wont arrive for an unknown period of time.

Best hope is Canada convincing the US to send up at least enough to provide 2nd doses to those who received AZ.

Yeah that phrase seems to sum up Canada's situation at present......"Best Hope" :lol:

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 23rd 2021 4:34 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by printer (Post 12998379)
Yeah that phrase seems to sum up Canada's situation at present......"Best Hope" :lol:


Canada chose the best hope method of pandemic management.

To be fair though the feds did ask the manufacturers if they would produce here, they all said no, that it wasn't viable for them to invest money and facilities in Canada.

Danny B Apr 23rd 2021 7:09 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Finally....common sense prevailed. Three travel regions instead of five. This should be easier for everyone to follow.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/c...travel/current


scrubbedexpat091 Apr 23rd 2021 7:25 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Makes more sense for sure, good to see they went the most sensible route with this, although they really should put a check point at the Alberta border rather than just signs.



Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12998586)
Finally....common sense prevailed. Three travel regions instead of five. This should be easier for everyone to follow.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/c...travel/current


Jerseygirl Apr 23rd 2021 8:04 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Just announced....30+ to be given AZ vaccine. :thumbsup:

Daughter had her first vax today...Moderna.

Edit: seems there are not enough supplies in Ontario to offer the AZ vax to 30+

scrubbedexpat091 Apr 23rd 2021 9:26 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12998604)
Just announced....30+ to be given AZ vaccine. :thumbsup:

Daughter had her first vax today...Moderna.


Good for those in provinces who still have AZ available.

caretaker Apr 23rd 2021 9:30 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12998592)
Makes more sense for sure, good to see they went the most sensible route with this, although they really should put a check point at the Alberta border rather than just signs.

The provincial borders are so porous I don't know if that would be worth it just from a manpower standpoint. If there's a roadblock on the highway you get on a grid road or range road or whatever and go around it. People either have a good excuse or they think they have a good enough made-up one, and it takes more than just 1 Mountie.... I don't know if armed forces reserves have manpower for it either but they may be an option. I think what the RCMP probably does in their own areas is profile anyone with a foreign plate, rotate stop checks on main roads and get all locals to call a rat line when they see strangers camping and get camp grounds to report them. I'll probably be driving out this summer and imagine it should be great with far less traffic than usual on the road.


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