Coronavirus
#4471
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Re: Coronavirus
Both things don't surprise me. Our differences, your opinion, this study, and the whole attitude to Corona in Canada.
Oddly, this doesn't happen in the EU, or the UK.
It's too much obsessed with a "100% solution" which will never ever exist. At the same time, Canada is unable to seem to control the influx of drugs into the country.
I wonder if there is ever such a study on drug use in Canada?
Oddly, this doesn't happen in the EU, or the UK.
It's too much obsessed with a "100% solution" which will never ever exist. At the same time, Canada is unable to seem to control the influx of drugs into the country.
I wonder if there is ever such a study on drug use in Canada?
What has that got to do with the price of fish? It's not relevant to the discussion.. If you disagree with the legalisation of Cannabis in Canada take it to another thread, thank you..
#4473
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Re: Coronavirus
Why would you have a different opiinion on a Health Canada study on whether anyone has natural immunity or naturally creates antibodies to Covid? Flummoxed.
What has that got to do with the price of fish? It's not relevant to the discussion.. If you disagree with the legalisation of Cannabis in Canada take it to another thread, thank you..
What has that got to do with the price of fish? It's not relevant to the discussion.. If you disagree with the legalisation of Cannabis in Canada take it to another thread, thank you..
It's part of a democracy.
Please accept that. Thank you.
#4474
#4475
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Re: Coronavirus
Forget what the UK and EU are saying, PLEASE. They have been way behind Canada since this all started in January last year.
Neither of them instituted lockdowns as soon as they should have done. Both lifted lockdowns before they should have done.
I'm a trained scientist, albeit retired, but I can still understand scientific papers and what they say.
The vaccines are currently being rated as conferring around 70% - 95(98%) accuracy, depending on all kinds of variations, such as country doing the testing, how many people were in the group tested, as well as the vaccine itself.
All you can say is that your chance of developing a severe case of covid is now much reduced ........ but even with the best result, you still have a 5% chance of catching it AND then of passing it on to other people There have been enough people developing covid after having had the vaccine to indicate that you have a chance of that ..... a small chance in the best scenario but it is there.
What NONE of the British people seem to really pay attention to is that even some of the scientists advising the government are making a big point that masks and spatial distancing will still be required for months to come. Canada's scientists and specialists have been saying that all along.
Having had both jabs does not mean "home free, lets party ................. unless you're an idiot or thoughtless of other people.
It's been said by some epidemiologists that covid is going to become like Flu ........ an annual jab will be required, and you may still get it, but in a much milder form, just as you can catch flu now even after you've had that jab.
#4476
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Re: Coronavirus
The Bank of Canada is predicting the Canadian economy will be on a "bumpy road" for the rest of 2021. The Bank of England is predicting a UK boom with over 7% growth in 2021.
Then there is Vaccination rates.
Maybe some aspects the UK's earlier responses to covid could have been better but now I'd say the UK is in a very good place going forwards.
#4477
Re: Coronavirus
The current death rate in Canada is 6.89 per million, in the UK it is 0.96 per million.
The Bank of Canada is predicting the Canadian economy will be on a "bumpy road" for the rest of 2021. The Bank of England is predicting a UK boom with over 7% growth in 2021.
Then there is Vaccination rates.
Maybe some aspects the UK's earlier responses to covid could have been better but now I'd say the UK is in a very good place going forwards.
The Bank of Canada is predicting the Canadian economy will be on a "bumpy road" for the rest of 2021. The Bank of England is predicting a UK boom with over 7% growth in 2021.
Then there is Vaccination rates.
Maybe some aspects the UK's earlier responses to covid could have been better but now I'd say the UK is in a very good place going forwards.
UK: 1871
Canada: 644
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#4478
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Re: Coronavirus
I said current death rates. The source uses data for the last 7 days.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/
#4479
Re: Coronavirus
I said current death rates. The source uses data for the last 7 days.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/
I imagine there are 127,000 people who would probable agree with you that "maybe some aspects of the UK response could be better" ... if they could.
#4480
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#4481
Re: Coronavirus
I'd say glossing over the massive death toll is the crass element here. Britain's done very poorly compared to Canada (and most other developed nations) and pulling up the most recent week's statistic to suggest otherwise is disingenuous.
#4482
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Re: Coronavirus
My post was very clearly a comparison of how the two countries are currently positioned with regards to covid and their respective economic outlooks - that's all.
#4483
#4484
Re: Coronavirus
The current death rate in Canada is 6.89 per million, in the UK it is 0.96 per million.
The Bank of Canada is predicting the Canadian economy will be on a "bumpy road" for the rest of 2021. The Bank of England is predicting a UK boom with over 7% growth in 2021.
Then there is Vaccination rates.
Maybe some aspects the UK's earlier responses to covid could have been better but now I'd say the UK is in a very good place going forwards.
The Bank of Canada is predicting the Canadian economy will be on a "bumpy road" for the rest of 2021. The Bank of England is predicting a UK boom with over 7% growth in 2021.
Then there is Vaccination rates.
Maybe some aspects the UK's earlier responses to covid could have been better but now I'd say the UK is in a very good place going forwards.
With regards to vaccination two of the largest companies on the FTSE have historically been Astra Zeneca and GSK. This presence set up the UK well to respond to any pharmaceutical need with existing high level relationships between corporation and government. All Canada has is sales/marketing branch plants for these companies and a market that is small and not particularly profitable to service because it is spread a long the border.
I accept that this is a democracy, however I do not agree that you have the right to pass on incorrect information
Forget what the UK and EU are saying, PLEASE. They have been way behind Canada since this all started in January last year.
Neither of them instituted lockdowns as soon as they should have done. Both lifted lockdowns before they should have done.
Forget what the UK and EU are saying, PLEASE. They have been way behind Canada since this all started in January last year.
Neither of them instituted lockdowns as soon as they should have done. Both lifted lockdowns before they should have done.
Beyond that strategies have largely been driven by the provinces. Here in Ontario the government has failed to use data from Ontario Public Health in its decision making and has preferred a strategy of claiming it's doing everything whilst doing nothing. I've personally been locked down nearly 5 months but this has been irrelevant because plenty of businesses have been fully functional with workers in close proximity who can't afford to take sick leave needing dollars to pay their bills. We've also had the completely ludicrous decision to have children return to schools earlier in the year when they were identified as a massive source of outbreak. In Ontario 4 adults weren't allowed to sit outside a restaurant for a meal but 20+ kids were able to sit inside a classroom? It's been a disaster.
Where Canada really has fallen over, as it does with almost everything we need delivered, is that we have been reduced to the usual finger pointing between the three levels of government. Instead of providing a central co-ordinated strategy we have a blame game and different noises being made about what the way forward is.
It's particularly frustrating that we still have no idea of when we might have some normality back in our lives. FFS even Boris has been able to have a go at that.
Last edited by JamesM; May 7th 2021 at 3:41 pm.
#4485
Re: Coronavirus
We've about used up the supply again: "Hey #Regina! We anticipate we’ll run out of vaccine at the Regina COVID-19 immunization drive-thru clinic at EVRAZ Place before the end of the day today (May 7). Lines are short, for the moment. #StickItToCOVID"
https://regina.ctvnews.ca/vaccine-su...iday-1.5418817
https://regina.ctvnews.ca/vaccine-su...iday-1.5418817