Coronavirus
Nov 12th 2020, 9:31 pm
#3107
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Re: Coronavirus
I had no idea things were so bad in Blighty 
The UK has become the first country in Europe to pass 50,000 coronavirus deaths, coming after the US, Brazil, India and Mexico.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54905018
The UK has become the first country in Europe to pass 50,000 coronavirus deaths, coming after the US, Brazil, India and Mexico.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54905018
22,000 cases yesterday ....
33,000 cases today.
Nov 12th 2020, 9:47 pm
#3108
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Re: Coronavirus
Small outbreak at Nanaimo Hospital. 5 staff members so far infected. They believe they know the source and wasn't a patient, and is linked to the Lower Mainland.
Possibly a staff member who went to the lower mainland?
https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/n...alth-1.5186217
BC didn't report numbers yesterday, so I imagine today's might very well be over 1,000 since the last day reported was Tuesday with 525, so 1,000+ reported today wouldn't be too radical a guess.
Updated: 1,130 new cases.
155 in hospital.
4 deaths since Tuesday. 3 in long term care homes, and 1 was a community death.
Possibly a staff member who went to the lower mainland?
https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/n...alth-1.5186217
BC didn't report numbers yesterday, so I imagine today's might very well be over 1,000 since the last day reported was Tuesday with 525, so 1,000+ reported today wouldn't be too radical a guess.
Updated: 1,130 new cases.
155 in hospital.
4 deaths since Tuesday. 3 in long term care homes, and 1 was a community death.
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Nov 12th 2020, 10:03 pm
#3109
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Re: Coronavirus
I am assuming the stupid vaccination is for the government that ruined a generation of kids education, torched the economy and plunged the country into levels of debt that our great grandchildren will still be paying off when they retire aged 90! Agreed it's not great for those touched by Covid but 50,000 dead (within 28 days of a covid diagnosis) most of whom sadly would have died in the near future anyway is a tiny number out of 70m. To most people catching covid is pretty much a non event and more an inconvenience than anything but the eventual reckoning to come is going to be so much worse. One of my kids had it and recovered and only found out though having an antibody test for work. Another currently has it together with her partner who live with us, they felt a bit under the weather for a few days but it's the time off work which will affect them more plus the inconvenience to the rest of the family thet we are all having now to isolate. Lucklily my wife and I work from home, unluckily we are both classed as high risk so yes it might not be great if either of us got it but the chances are we would be just fine so we kick on and try and keep our tiny cog in the economy going.
Nov 12th 2020, 11:28 pm
#3110
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Re: Coronavirus
For those that see "a bit of death" as a necessary hardship to keep the economy open, I wonder how high the deaths can be. We're at 50K in the UK, many seem untroubled by it, what about 100K? 200K, higher? Or would concern only arise when the infection level reached a point where hospitals were unable to cope? The irony is that if infection levels increased much further, the economy would collapse regardless of any government intervention. Collapse further, that is.
Nov 13th 2020, 12:41 am
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Re: Coronavirus
For those that see "a bit of death" as a necessary hardship to keep the economy open, I wonder how high the deaths can be. We're at 50K in the UK, many seem untroubled by it, what about 100K? 200K, higher? Or would concern only arise when the infection level reached a point where hospitals were unable to cope? The irony is that if infection levels increased much further, the economy would collapse regardless of any government intervention. Collapse further, that is.
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.
Nov 13th 2020, 1:31 am
#3113
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Re: Coronavirus
Depends what you base it against, what about heart disease? Copied from July 2020 article:
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.
Nov 13th 2020, 1:50 am
#3114
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Re: Coronavirus
Depends what you base it against, what about heart disease? Copied from July 2020 article:
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.
Nov 13th 2020, 5:02 am
#3115
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Re: Coronavirus
https://www.bhf.org.uk/what-we-do/ne...ts-and-figures
https://www.healthawareness.co.uk/ca...ses-the-facts/
- there's also a pdf if you want to download it - www.bhf.org.uk › research › bhf-cvd-statistics-uk-factsheet
Those figures used to be far worse - thank goodness our knowledge is far more advanced than it was (and there are now treatments available..)
https://www.healthawareness.co.uk/ca...ses-the-facts/
- there's also a pdf if you want to download it - www.bhf.org.uk › research › bhf-cvd-statistics-uk-factsheet
Those figures used to be far worse - thank goodness our knowledge is far more advanced than it was (and there are now treatments available..)
In 1961, more than half of all deaths in the UK were attributed to heart and circulatory diseases (320,000 deaths)
Last edited by Siouxie; Nov 13th 2020 at 5:06 am.
Nov 13th 2020, 5:27 am
#3116
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Re: Coronavirus
https://www.bhf.org.uk/what-we-do/ne...ts-and-figures
https://www.healthawareness.co.uk/ca...ses-the-facts/
- there's also a pdf if you want to download it - www.bhf.org.uk › research › bhf-cvd-statistics-uk-factsheet
Those figures used to be far worse - thank goodness our knowledge is far more advanced than it was (and there are now treatments available..)
https://www.healthawareness.co.uk/ca...ses-the-facts/
- there's also a pdf if you want to download it - www.bhf.org.uk › research › bhf-cvd-statistics-uk-factsheet
Those figures used to be far worse - thank goodness our knowledge is far more advanced than it was (and there are now treatments available..)
Nov 13th 2020, 5:36 am
#3117
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Re: Coronavirus
It makes me think that the two do not correlate at all.
One is a new unleashed highly contagious disease which others can give you & which quick preventative measures & highlighting right here and now , right up there daily in your face, might be able to save people.
The other is a known issue (s) due to several factors, none of which are infectious.
The first needs quick reporting, highlighting and a mandate to keep on keeping on reminding people that there are quick easy steps to limit possible infection to oneself and others. It is fast spreading and so the need for this to be plastered everywhere , consistently.
The second with its risk factors has been known & publicised for many decades. Smoking. Alcohol. Overweight. Diet. Hereditary in some cases where the previous are not really a factor. Who doesn't know that smoking, drinking, diet, weight can lead to heart and circulatory issues. Everyone does even if in denial. We all know.
With this Covid19, it is hitting all ages and all people silently, invisibly and deadly. The youngest of which has been a newborn babe.
That is why the need to try and motivate people to understand what this virus can do and quickly . To keep plugging the message into deaf ears. The other message about heart disease , stroke, circulatory ldisease has been out there for many decades now and it is up to an individual if they take that on board or not. They kill themselves in that, not others.
Nov 13th 2020, 7:15 am
#3118
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Re: Coronavirus
I think one of the key factors in the UK (and possibly also the US) death toll is just how unhealthy the majority of Brits are. Most are overweight, completely unfit, and exist on a diet of junk food. It really wouldn't take much to tip them over the edge into serious respiratory illness.
Nov 13th 2020, 10:41 am
#3119
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Re: Coronavirus
Depends what you base it against, what about heart disease? Copied from July 2020 article:
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.
Heart and circulatory diseases cause more than a quarter (27 per cent) of all deaths in the UK; that's nearly 170,000 deaths each year - an average of 460 people each day or one death every three minutes. Around 44,000 people under the age of 75 in the UK die from heart and circulatory diseases each year.
So 460 a day every day on average yet we do not see these figures dramatically posted on every social media platform or new bulletin. Makes you think.
Nov 13th 2020, 10:44 am
#3120
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Re: Coronavirus
I think one of the key factors in the UK (and possibly also the US) death toll is just how unhealthy the majority of Brits are. Most are overweight, completely unfit, and exist on a diet of junk food. It really wouldn't take much to tip them over the edge into serious respiratory illness.