Coronavirus
#1786
Re: Coronavirus
I do wonder what the plan is if it turns out antibodies for this virus is not long lasting. Suppose it could be like the flu shot and require a new shot every X amount of time. This virus seems tricky especially the part where many seem to have it and not know it....maybe its mutating where it can spread but not make people as ill, that would be a good think I would think.
#1787
Re: Coronavirus
“If you set out to be liked, you would be prepared to compromise on anything at any time, and you would achieve nothing.”
#1788
Re: Coronavirus
I'd suggest that Trump's comments about bleach and UV light were massively overblown by the media. I have seem a meme that summed the issue up perfectly: "Trump advises people to drink water" is spun into "Trump.advocates drowning"
Someone has to inject a little debate into these types of posts. This forum has become a sad version of what it used to be when I first joined, when people used to duck and dive.
Someone has to inject a little debate into these types of posts. This forum has become a sad version of what it used to be when I first joined, when people used to duck and dive.
#1789
#1790
Re: Coronavirus
Certainly there is some media bias against Trump, but it pales into insignificance against the lies and hyperbole he trots out. Face it, he's a moron. He doesn't read. He doesn't listen to his advisors. He's a raging narcissist. Consider all those top military generals and admin staff who slate him once they have the independence to so. I don't know why anyone would give Trump the benefit of the doubt on anything. Prior to the pandemic and BLM, one might be able to argue that he's some kind of pragmatic unconventional leader, but since those two watershed events, he's shown a startling level of unawareness and incompetence.
When the number of deaths in Canada is grossed up to reflect the population differences between it and the US, the figures don't look so favourable when the population density, numbers of truly global cities and cases/deaths are taken into account.
Last edited by Almost Canadian; Jun 20th 2020 at 1:08 pm.
#1791
Re: Coronavirus
You'll never hear me deny he is a moron. However, lots of things attributed to him by the media, and intelligent people on here, simply didn't happen. The bleach/UV nonsense being the perfect example.
When the number of deaths in Canada is grossed up to reflect the population differences between it and the US, the figures don't look so favourable when the population density, numbers of truly global cities and cases/deaths are taken into account.
When the number of deaths in Canada is grossed up to reflect the population differences between it and the US, the figures don't look so favourable when the population density, numbers of truly global cities and cases/deaths are taken into account.
As far as death rates, living in the UK, I really can't comment on the US or Canada. Our Poundshop Trump is equally capable of incompetent leadership.
#1792
Re: Coronavirus
So his comments about bleach were misconstrued? As a head of state, at a public press conference, with his chief medical staff too bullied to speak isn't that kind of random musing reckless?
As far as death rates, living in the UK, I really can't comment on the US or Canada. Our Poundshop Trump is equally capable of incompetent leadership.
As far as death rates, living in the UK, I really can't comment on the US or Canada. Our Poundshop Trump is equally capable of incompetent leadership.
#1793
Re: Coronavirus
I think Trump gets a generous press. Two "news" networks are slavish to him. Fox is allowed to report as if it were a news channel without having a license. "Both sides ism" causes even the NYT to publish lunatic op-ed pieces by members of the Trump administration as if they advanced views acceptable in a civilized society.; it's as if they were taking, say, Creation Science, seriously.
#1794
Re: Coronavirus
I take it that you haven't viewed the video of what he said? I suggest you do so and then confirm that at no time did he suggest that people drink bleach. He mentioned that his expert, who was sat close to him, had mentioned the possibilities and he suggested that they look into it. C9mpletely different to what some in he media reported.
#1795
Re: Coronavirus
Ahem.
I think Trump gets a generous press. Two "news" networks are slavish to him. Fox is allowed to report as if it were a news channel without having a license. "Both sides ism" causes even the NYT to publish lunatic op-ed pieces by members of the Trump administration as if they advanced views acceptable in a civilized society.; it's as if they were taking, say, Creation Science, seriously.
I think Trump gets a generous press. Two "news" networks are slavish to him. Fox is allowed to report as if it were a news channel without having a license. "Both sides ism" causes even the NYT to publish lunatic op-ed pieces by members of the Trump administration as if they advanced views acceptable in a civilized society.; it's as if they were taking, say, Creation Science, seriously.
#1796
Re: Coronavirus
Ahem.
https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/...429189?lang=en
I think Trump gets a generous press. Two "news" networks are slavish to him. Fox is allowed to report as if it were a news channel without having a license. "Both sides ism" causes even the NYT to publish lunatic op-ed pieces by members of the Trump administration as if they advanced views acceptable in a civilized society.; it's as if they were taking, say, Creation Science, seriously.
https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/...429189?lang=en
I think Trump gets a generous press. Two "news" networks are slavish to him. Fox is allowed to report as if it were a news channel without having a license. "Both sides ism" causes even the NYT to publish lunatic op-ed pieces by members of the Trump administration as if they advanced views acceptable in a civilized society.; it's as if they were taking, say, Creation Science, seriously.
Politics in the US is a mess and that is due to the conduct of all involved. I don't belive that anyone has suggested is is a perfect example of how a society acts in the bests interests of those it is purporting to serve.
I will leave is for others to continue the debate as my weekend is about to start.
Last edited by Almost Canadian; Jun 20th 2020 at 3:32 pm.
#1797
Re: Coronavirus
Some may have heard about the 'border' restrictions operational in Atlantic Canada and how a doctor broke the rules and has now been linked with about 40 of something like 45 new cases in NB over the last month. He initially apologised for his "error of judgement" but said he didn't meet up with anyone; going straight to Montreal area and straight back.
The health authority suspended him and, curiously, revealed he had previously given notice of resignation.
There's been much back-tracking of his original statements - covering his back, presumably - following the social media storm.
The New York Times picked up on the 'restricted travel' within Canada aspect and interviewed him. Perhaps he didn't think it would be picked up in Canada or maybe he just didn't think.
He had a job interview in Montreal...likely he was successful and that led to his resignation before anything blew up.
The health authority suspended him and, curiously, revealed he had previously given notice of resignation.
There's been much back-tracking of his original statements - covering his back, presumably - following the social media storm.
The New York Times picked up on the 'restricted travel' within Canada aspect and interviewed him. Perhaps he didn't think it would be picked up in Canada or maybe he just didn't think.
He had a job interview in Montreal...likely he was successful and that led to his resignation before anything blew up.
#1798
Banned
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: SW Ontario
Posts: 19,879
Re: Coronavirus
Would you lot stop taking this into a Political thread please..... as has been asked previously....... any more and they will get moved to >>>>>>> Political Posts moved from the Coronavirus thread
#1799
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 516
Re: Coronavirus
Some may have heard about the 'border' restrictions operational in Atlantic Canada and how a doctor broke the rules and has now been linked with about 40 of something like 45 new cases in NB over the last month. He initially apologised for his "error of judgement" but said he didn't meet up with anyone; going straight to Montreal area and straight back.
The health authority suspended him and, curiously, revealed he had previously given notice of resignation.
There's been much back-tracking of his original statements - covering his back, presumably - following the social media storm.
The New York Times picked up on the 'restricted travel' within Canada aspect and interviewed him. Perhaps he didn't think it would be picked up in Canada or maybe he just didn't think.
He had a job interview in Montreal...likely he was successful and that led to his resignation before anything blew up.
The health authority suspended him and, curiously, revealed he had previously given notice of resignation.
There's been much back-tracking of his original statements - covering his back, presumably - following the social media storm.
The New York Times picked up on the 'restricted travel' within Canada aspect and interviewed him. Perhaps he didn't think it would be picked up in Canada or maybe he just didn't think.
He had a job interview in Montreal...likely he was successful and that led to his resignation before anything blew up.
#1800
Re: Coronavirus
Interesting. Originally he said that he'd gone to collect his daughter, who was living in Montreal, and who he brought back from there and put into daycare in Canada. Guessing she was infected without symptoms, and infected him. If he told the border officials that he was bringing the daughter from Montreal surely they would have told him they both had to quarantine for 14 days
In the early days it was suggested 'work related' was the reason given (hence no isolation), which could be the one bit of truth.