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Old Apr 10th 2020, 6:28 pm
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"For at least one of the country's leading intelligence experts, the fact that the unit was tracking the COVID-19 outbreak and reporting on it raises serious questions about information-sharing within the federal government — and its possible failure to heed early warning signs."

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Old Apr 10th 2020, 8:57 pm
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People simply cannot listen it seems, not sure what part of don't travel for Easter weekend people don't understand.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6804829/c...velers-easter/

Wonder if there will be a spike in 1-2 weeks from now?
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Old Apr 10th 2020, 10:19 pm
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JSmith apparently there's to be a statement update for BC today rather than a broadcast but I can't find anything so i guess not released yet. Have you seen anything?

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Old Apr 10th 2020, 10:33 pm
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JSmith apparently there's to be a statement update for BC today rather than a broadcast but I can't find anything so i guess not released yet. Have you seen anything?

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I haven't seen anything updated, just rehash of yesterday, but nothing new yet that I can find. I totally forgot today was a holiday, I never associate good friday with being a holiday.
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Old Apr 10th 2020, 10:36 pm
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I never associate good friday with being a holiday.
I do. But I still checked for the newspaper twice before remembering it doesn't publish.
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Old Apr 10th 2020, 10:39 pm
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Thanks for responding. I'll keep looking.

Difficult to see this as a holiday when it's just merged in with the other days at home.
Bonnie Henry deserves a bit of down time although I doubt she's really getting it ....
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I do. But I still checked for the newspaper twice before remembering it doesn't publish.
It's not a holiday in California and I am not religious, so it was just a day on the calendar. Granted when in school we didn't have school but that was only because back then spring break happened to be the week before Easter, then back to school Monday.
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Looks like Global has the new updated info.

40 new cases, 5 new deaths, 3 of the deaths were in long term care facility.

Hospitalizations are down a bit again to 128 now.

The temporary hospital at Vancouver Convention center is now operational should it be needed.

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Old Apr 10th 2020, 11:18 pm
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Yes just spotted it thanks!
haven't read it yet.
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Let's put this to bad. Boris Johnson is a cad and who ever voted for the Conservative party with him as its leader are cads.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...nd-i-dvfnxdvql He has excellent taste in movies. One of my favourite mindless movies.
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One of my favourite mindless movies.
Mindless movies. Now there's a thought.
Will we ever be allowed to see a movie encompassing how government in the US managed the C19 pandemic in the US?
Will there be a 2020 election?
Will the US degenerate further into a dictatorship?
Exceptional events generate exceptional political transformations.
The Hunger Games movies, entertaining until you start to think about it, and the US is just over there.... that's right just over the border....
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Old Apr 11th 2020, 5:54 pm
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Mindless movies. Now there's a thought.
Will we ever be allowed to see a movie encompassing how government in the US managed the C19 pandemic in the US?
Will there be a 2020 election?
Will the US degenerate further into a dictatorship?
Exceptional events generate exceptional political transformations.
The Hunger Games movies, entertaining until you start to think about it, and the US is just over there.... that's right just over the border....
US election can't easily be changed for president. It's set in federal legislation that states "the electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed in each State on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in the month of November of the year in which they are to be appointed." The sitting president has no power on his own to alter that date.

Now each of the 50 states could in theory change the way in which they choose their electors from something other than popular vote, but that isn't exactly easy either, state legislature and governors would need to pass relevant legislation to approve new methods for selecting electors. Remember the elections are run by each state, so essentially there are 50 individual elections, not one federal election. Of course voters would likely not be happy with such changes and risk political suicide.

Now congress could pass new legislation to replace or modify the Presidential Election Day Act, but they would require congress to agree and pass legislation and the president to sign it, in the current congress this is not likely to happen.

Now even if any of the above is managed, the election could only be moved by a month or 2 at most. 20th amendment of the US constitution automatically end the sitting presidents term at 12 noon on January 20th, and if no president or vice president has been elected, the line of succession starts.

In order to change the constitution congress will have to submit a proposed amendment and vote, both houses would then need to pass the proposal with 2/3 vote, if it passes both houses of congress with 2/3, the proposed amendment is sent to the states, where three-fourths of the states would need to ratify it. (38 of 50 states would need to ratify it.) such an amendment is certainly not likely to get 2/3 vote in both houses of congress nor is it feasible that it could happen in 7 months.

Now the states could also attempt to change the constitution, but that would require calling a constitutional convention which would require 2/3 of the states, and any proposed amendment would still need to pass with three-fourths of the states approving it.

Note that the US President has no constitutional role in amending the constitution and amendments do not require presidential approval.

Best course of action would be congress passing legislation requiring all states to do mail ballots this year, several states already do 100% mail ballot elections so its not exactly some radical proposal.

If previous generations managed to have elections in other pandemics (1918 mid-term election) and elections during war time including the civil war, no reason it can't go as scheduled this year, no reason the election this year can't go on as scheduled, send out mail ballots end of September to early October, require the ballots to be post marked by election day and presto nobody has to leave home to vote, just put the ballot into a mail box, now the results would be delayed a couple weeks vs normal election years but that isn't a big deal.





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Did anyone watch /hear Priti Patel? On a scale of one to really sodding evil how angry will it make me? Best to just skip it?
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Note that the US President has no constitutional role in amending the constitution and amendments do not require presidential approval.
Well presented and it reads well when the constitution remains the basis for US Law, but extreme events have a habit of pushing established laws to one side in favour of the executive. What would happen if the president simply ignores the Constitution?
And today we see that Mnuchin is reported by the Treasury's IG to have acted appropriately in refusing to hand over Trump's tax returns because the request they did not serve a legitimate “legislative purpose.” But there is nothing in law that mentions the need to have a “legislative purpose” to obtain the returns, this is a spurious excuse to appease Trump and keep his job.
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Who would argue that the presence of a raging pandemic doesn't provide a plausible excuse to delay an election by a president with poor ratings, and if the country degenerates into a depression with widespread civil unrest who would argue that an election might not be possible?

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I haven't seen mention of this here.

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