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Old Apr 4th 2020, 9:42 pm
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Federal Health Minister Patty Hajdu says several people in Canada are under observation for signs they may have contracted a coronavirusfrom China


Stay home, stock up on beans n corn bread, have a radio handy, come out when it’s safe
$2 for a can of beans now. FFS !!

found a family size for 1:99 that be me for the weekend
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found a family size for 1:99 that be me for the weekend
That's a lot of beans, I have beans with my breakfast and an ordinary can is good for about 5 mornings (always with salt and pepper and a good dash of wooster).
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29 new cases in BC, total now 1,203.

3 more deaths.

23 long term care facilities now have outbreaks.

COVID-19 strategic advisory committee is being created in BC to facilitate research related to the virus.


Excellent news. BC folk should be very proud of these results. Staying the fack home is working.
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That's awesome. It looks like you have flattened it!
NB?
I think it's the same as everywhere else, just lower numbers. We're only 776,000 in the province. The positive results tripled in 6 days at one point.

But being that much smaller, less dense, all the usual responses happened earlier so our peak may be less dramatic so long as people don't get complacent.

I suppose, when you consider the proportion of older people is much higher here than other provinces things could be worse.
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Old Apr 4th 2020, 10:02 pm
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Excellent news. BC folk should be very proud of these results. Staying the fack home is working.
Our graph looks much better than other places, we seem to be doing well.

BC is also part of 25 initiatives around the world working toward a vaccine for COVID-19.

South Carolina is the closest state to BC's population both having around 5 million, they have 1,917 cases, 35 deaths and they have done far less tests 18,314 vs BC at 48,508 tests as of today.

So I do think we are doing very well so far.



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Old Apr 4th 2020, 11:31 pm
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Lots of signage around here about social distancing. People are advised to stay 6' 5" apart. I know the government says 2 metres so, at last, I have an idea of a metre beyond "a yard and a bit".
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Does anyone have a plan as to how we expose everyone to this, or is life never going to return to normal? I get that we have to keep the healthcare system going, but how is the future spike to be avoided?

Are the borders going to be permanently shut?
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Lots of signage around here about social distancing. People are advised to stay 6' 5" apart. I know the government says 2 metres so, at last, I have an idea of a metre beyond "a yard and a bit".
I'm seldom surprised at the lack of common sense some people display.
The original idea was to reflect the penetration of cough droplets at about 6 feet or 2m. You have wonder at the lack of understanding displayed when making a sign stating "advised to stay 6' 5" apart". So 6' 4" is too close and 6' 6" too far apart?
Looks like I'll need to go out with a tape measure in future, wouldn't want to upset the sign police.


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I'm seldom surprised at the lack of common sense some people display.
The original idea was to reflect the penetration of cough droplets at about 6 feet or 2m. You have wonder at the lack of understanding displayed when making a sign stating "advised to stay 6' 5" apart". So 6' 4" is too close and 6' 6" too far apart?
Looks like I'll need to go out with a tape measure in future, wouldn't want to upset the sign police.
maybe we’re not assimilated enough. Every radio news report seems to simplify it as an (ice) hockey stick apart. 🏒🏒🏒
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And..... Nothing but GREED.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6777097/c...spensing-fees/
I've rarely seen a more despicable example of exploiting a crisis by a recognised representative organisation than the restriction of dispensing prescriptions to 30 days whilst retaining the full dispensing cost.
When we see other health professionals putting their very lives on the line, we witness the most heinous example of price gouging I can remember. It's even worse to my mind than paid hospital parking.. but only just.
The excuse that this is to retain supply during the C19 crisis betrays the understanding that the same quantity is dispensed and since individual prescriptions are staggered the daily supply will not change. This is nothing more than blatent exploitation by a monopolistic cadre of those in need.
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And..... Nothing but GREED.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6777097/c...spensing-fees/
I've rarely seen a more despicable example of exploiting a crisis by a recognised representative organisation than the restriction of dispensing prescriptions to 30 days whilst retaining the full dispensing cost.
When we see other health professionals putting their very lives on the line, we witness the most heinous example of price gouging I can remember. It's even worse to my mind than paid hospital parking.. but only just.
The excuse that this is to retain supply during the C19 crisis betrays the understanding that the same quantity is dispensed and since individual prescriptions are staggered the daily supply will not change. This is nothing more than blatent exploitation by a monopolistic cadre of those in need.
Never realized so many people get 90 days of medications at once to make such a difference. The province covers our dispensing fees but never really thought about how much extra they pay because our prescriptions are monthly, my wife alone has probably $50/month in dispensing fees covered, her doctor though wont prescribe more than 30 day supply though, so its not the pharmacists fault.

My doctor does 60 day supply.

But could certainly see if people are used to every 90 days, suddenly having to pay a filling fee/s monthly could really add up if one has several prescriptions. Often the filling fee exceeds the cost of the medication, why can prescription drugs just be sold at one set price and do away with the filling fee altogether?


I wonder if those in houses with yards and space are feeling better vs those stuck in small apartments with limited outdoor space and room inside. Seems being in a house with a yard would be more beneficially mental health wise vs stuck in a small space with no yard etc, at least with a yard there is something to do to occupy time, not so much in an apartment or condo.

I wish we had a kind and understanding landlord like this one.

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maybe we’re not assimilated enough. Every radio news report seems to simplify it as an (ice) hockey stick apart. 🏒🏒🏒
I heard that on the radio a few days ago. I would never have guessed a hockey stick was that long.

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I've rarely seen a more despicable example of exploiting a crisis by a recognised representative organisation than the restriction of dispensing prescriptions to 30 days whilst retaining the full dispensing cost.
When we see other health professionals putting their very lives on the line, we witness the most heinous example of price gouging I can remember. It's even worse to my mind than paid hospital parking.. but only just.
The excuse that this is to retain supply during the C19 crisis betrays the understanding that the same quantity is dispensed and since individual prescriptions are staggered the daily supply will not change. .
I wonder if the pharmacist association are thinking that there may be some interruption to supplies. Like the USA mysteriously diverting shipments their way. Again. Or so many staff being off sick or dead that production falls. Maybe they've had warning about it.

Perhaps the thinking is that a certain number of patients will get three months worth, come down with the virus and either through hospitalisation or death will not need the remaining supply which will go to waste. If that happens when they've only been given a month of meds there's potential to save two-thirds for everyone still breathing on their own.

Presumably it makes no difference to those with employee coverage that pay a %? Or do health benefits not cover the dispensing fee?
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The original idea was to reflect the penetration of cough droplets at about 6 feet or 2m. You have wonder at the lack of understanding displayed when making a sign stating "advised to stay 6' 5" apart". So 6' 4" is too close and 6' 6" too far apart?
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To me the joke was just the same old one about butter coming in 455millisomething slabs because metric is easier. Canadians are simple, literal, people so, when the government says "2 metres" the shop owners, knowing the public shops in imperial, translate it to something very specific even though the original number was a guesstimate.
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I wonder if the pharmacist association are thinking that there may be some interruption to supplies. Like the USA mysteriously diverting shipments their way. Again. Or so many staff being off sick or dead that production falls. Maybe they've had warning about it.
Perhaps the thinking is that a certain number of patients will get three months worth, come down with the virus and either through hospitalisation or death will not need the remaining supply which will go to waste. If that happens when they've only been given a month of meds there's potential to save two-thirds for everyone still breathing on their own.
Presumably it makes no difference to those with employee coverage that pay a %? Or do health benefits not cover the dispensing fee?
I think you're being far too charitable.
It doesn't matter how frequently the medication is dispensed, the same quantity is supplied.
It's the wish to retain the same individual dispensing cost that betrays why this is being done. As pensioners, in our case this will triple the dispensing costs for no other reason than their wish to grab this opportunity in order to enrich their member individual pharmacists. Greed pure and simple.
The fear that a proportion of medication going to waste in anticipation of patients dying of C19 is grasping at straws.
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I think you're being far too charitable.
It doesn't matter how frequently the medication is dispensed, the same quantity is supplied.
It's the wish to retain the same individual dispensing cost that betrays why this is being done. As pensioners, in our case this will triple the dispensing costs for no other reason than their wish to grab this opportunity in order to enrich their member individual pharmacists. Greed pure and simple.
The fear that a proportion of medication going to waste in anticipation of patients dying of C19 is grasping at straws.
It triples my cost too. But for Seniors in NB they are only going to charge the dispensing fee on the first one and not on the next two.

My point about an interruption in supplies was that yes, it's the same quantity overall but if three months are dished out to two thirds of the people needing the meds and then the supply is interrupted and it's all gone, then those who would be about due to get their three months worth cannot and may not get any.

Whereas if the others have only been allowed one month at a time, then everyone has something to be going on with while they await further supplies.

It's the same thinking behind the bog paper when some couldn't get any because others took more than was needed.

Why are you so sure they are not allowing for the possibility of shortages? We've just seen the US getting medical supplies intended for Germany and Canada.
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