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Old Oct 15th 2020, 6:00 pm
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Looks like there are 2 in our area and the price is reasonable, $35 for the season.

Have to wait til Spring though, they are preparing for winter, can't grow much of anything outside in winter in these parts.

Now that we have a patio that gets sun again, I'll grow a few things on the patio next spring/summer as well.

I am trying not to let the short days bring me down, November to late January tend to be hardest on me, the seasonal change and short days isn't the best for mental health.....

4pm sunsets suck butt.....
For $35 I would snatch one up as soon as I could. If nothing else, it gives you somewhere to go and you will probably find people to chat to. On top of that something to do and home grown veggies are a bonus.


I don’t like the short days either, but at least most days the sky is blue and the sun is shining...even if

it is -35C outside. Today the weather reminds me of England, grey, cloudy and wet.

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For $35 I would snatch one up as soon as I could. If nothing else, it gives you somewhere to go and you will probably find people to chat to. On top of that something to do and home grown veggies are a bonus.


I don’t like the short days either, but at least most days the sky is blue and the sun is shining...even if

it is -35C outside. Today the weather reminds me of England, grey, cloudy and wet.
I have emailed asking if I can apply now for next year.

That is the problem with coastal BC, short days and tends to be grey for much of the time, my first winter in Chilliwack, it was cloudy and rainy nearly everyday that December, I truly though I was going to go bonkers, I had never experienced that type of weather at any point in my life prior to that, we don't get weeks and weeks of grey and rain in San Diego in the winter...lol It was a shocker, nor did I have SAD issues in winter prior to that, so that first winter was hardcore as I was both affected by the horrible weather, lack of sun, short days, and severely homesick all at the same time.

I am not sure how the winters are in Kelowna yet, I know it will be colder and snowy, but I don't know if they get more sunny days compared to Vancouver, time will tell I guess.




Anyhow, doesn't look like I will be getting into seeing the GI doctor this year, 8-12 weeks was what I was told for an appointment. But I don't have an appointment yet, I am still on the waiting to be called list.
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I knew after having a few good weeks bad days were a coming and they have arrived.


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My biggest hurdle has been trying to recreate it.....I guess there is really no way to truly recreate the ramp at home....lol
I go hiking every day now - one big long hike in the late afternoon - but the rest of the day is pretty sedentary. I miss being in the office, where I was constantly moving around. I could probably replicate the experience by doing numerous short walks but I can't get into that habit.
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Looks like there are 2 in our area and the price is reasonable, $35 for the season.

Have to wait til Spring though, they are preparing for winter, can't grow much of anything outside in winter in these parts.

Now that we have a patio that gets sun again, I'll grow a few things on the patio next spring/summer as well.

4pm sunsets suck....
Intriguing idea! I just looked to see what's available in Walnut Creek. https://gardenshf.org/greenhouse-garden/ "Large plots are 4×12′ and rent for $150 per year; small plots are 4×8′ and rent for $75 per year. "
What do you get for the $35?
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Intriguing idea! I just looked to see what's available in Walnut Creek. https://gardenshf.org/greenhouse-garden/ "Large plots are 4×12′ and rent for $150 per year; small plots are 4×8′ and rent for $75 per year. "
What do you get for the $35?
The size isn't listed but looking at google maps and street view of the location, I would estimate each plot is around 6' x 4'

They do provide common access to tools, a shed where the tools are stored, water, and other basic stuff needed.

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I go hiking every day now - one big long hike in the late afternoon - but the rest of the day is pretty sedentary. I miss being in the office, where I was constantly moving around. I could probably replicate the experience by doing numerous short walks but I can't get into that habit.
Winter is always tricky too, as the weather and temperature isn't inviting to go outside and do things for an extended time and back country tends to not be accessible in winter, and many trails close for winter as well.

If only I could afford skiing and secondly knew how to ski, but at 40 something, not willing to risk injury trying to learn....and being as clumsy as I am, I would probably end up hurt....


Winter is the time where living in places like Phoenix, or San Diego and such really pay off, can do outdoor stuff in middle of winter without being wet, cold, or dealing with snow and ice ​​​​​​​


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J - I agree about winter in San Diego, I was able to have lunch outside every day at work during the winter. Even if the overnight temperature was freezing it would warm up nicely for lunch. A bit different further North, but in return it is greener.

I have fond memories of the allotment in the UK that my grandfather had, which my dad continued. The sizes were larger than mentioned here - and I am not sure if it was 1 or 2 plots (10 rod each). It was really too big unless you could get to it easily and be willing to put the time into it.
Traditionally, allotment plots are measured in rods - a unit derived from Anglo-Saxon farming practices. A rod was used to control a team of oxen when working on the land and measures 5.5 yards (5.03 metres). Originally, plots were 10 square rods in size (10 x 5.5 x 5.5) as this area was required to produce enough vegetables to feed a 4 person family for 1 year. Translated into modern currency, that's 302.5 sq yards or 253 sq metres.
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To really thrive in society today, you just need to be too skilled and smart, cost of everything has gotten to a point where unless highly skilled, your just gonna struggle and not thrive.

The jobs people suggest to others that pay well are just always so skilled, well beyond what someone like me could ever do, but $15/hr is not sufficient to thrive in Canada and will just be a struggle, and its exhausting working for almost nothing with nothing to show for it at the end.

Everything these days seem to be skilled and well paid, and not well paid, there isn't a middle ground anymore it seems.
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Since I cannot figure out how to get a decent paying job that will allow me to have the life I want, and since I do not have the support and guidance I need, I am giving up.

You have to look at the big picture, if you put in energy and effort and get nothing back for it, there is no point in continuing using the energy for a futile task.

I am unskilled, uneducated and the world now requires skilled and educated workers, people like me are left in the dust and even if we do find a job, its almost always low wage and dead end with no future.

I applied for school, but I am not competitive enough academically to get in, and end up waitlisted, but I imagine since the program started 17 days ago, I clearly did not get in.....

Maybe in May, I am still waiting to see if they roll the waitlist over, or if I have to pay and apply again.

But the job market in that field appears over saturated and little to no listings on most health authority websites and most are in Vancouver, and well living in Vancouver on $22/hr isn't viable due to high cost of housing.

I don't even think $22/hr is even enough to buy a house in Kelowna area.

Seems you gotta make $35+ per hour these days and that is certainly not a viable option for me, that is nursing level education and skill, or high tech jobs I guess, I can't even think of a job I could realistically get that pays over $30 per hour.

According to indeed since January 1, I have averaged 15 applications per day just on their platform, doesn't include the places I applied to directly or through government job banks.

I think I had 3 or 4 interviews, I know 2 for sure, but I think there was another couple, one did result in a min wage job doing weather observation but then COVID hit and training got delayed and we moved so that offer never resulted in a job.


My wife has same level of education as me, and same types of gaps in employment as I do, but she always gets interviews, I made her resume and its formatted just like mine, so I dunno what the issue is anymore, but I guess her jobs are admin related where mine are all basically the same 2 jobs but at different companies, hotel night audit and airline ramp jobs and airline operations jobs, which are not in demand right now, and I no real experience outside those industries which likely hurts me.












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All I can tell you is, you write extremely well. I have no idea how you can make money out of that, but don't forget that you are good at something. If you don't get a job, what kind of assistance can you get from the government? Can you make a life for yourself without getting a job? Rather than beating yourself up that you can't get a job, can you somehow accept the lack of work as a good thing, and enjoy it? Possibly think of it as early retirement?
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All I can tell you is, you write extremely well. I have no idea how you can make money out of that, but don't forget that you are good at something. If you don't get a job, what kind of assistance can you get from the government? Can you make a life for yourself without getting a job? Rather than beating yourself up that you can't get a job, can you somehow accept the lack of work as a good thing, and enjoy it? Possibly think of it as early retirement?

I guess in a way I am essentially retired...

The time may come in handy considering I will have variety of medical appointments in the future.

GI specialist for the colon, and I have a referral to a surgeon to talk about the hernias that apparently need to be repaired.

No appointments yet for any of them, but not working does make things easier since I can just say any day and anytime works which can speed things up sometimes when your not pick about appointment times and days, so that is a positive I guess.

The disability amount covers our rent and the basic bills and some food, so we are okay there for the time being, and I don't believe the allowable rent increase in 2021 will be very high if the government even permits rent increases. We have rent control of sorts so rent increases on existing tenants is set by the government each year.


And I am just in the fall funk as I call it, I tend to go really low mental health wise from mid October to late January, I think its triggered by shorter days, and upcoming holidays I always miss with family, and the new year is never something I look forward to, end of the year just has all the things to bring one down, maybe I am in the wrong hemisphere, at least the southern half of the world, has summer at the end of the year instead of winter.


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Well now I am a little worried.

Got a call from the Kelowna Hospital today, the GI doctor reviewed my CT scan and wants a colonoscopy done as soon as possible which is next Tuesday.

The fact the doctor wants it done quickly, is a little concerning.


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Well now I am a little worried. Got a call from the Kelowna Hospital today, the GI doctor reviewed my CT scan and wants a colonoscopy done as soon as possible which is next Tuesday. The fact the doctor wants it done quickly, is a little concerning.
Good thing he has time and can access the test that quickly. When I had an indistinct image on my scan they booked a second one days later to check it, then colonoscopy soon after, so he must see something in there. If you have unexplained gut pains this might provide an answer. You should post your prep saga on the Broken Bodies thread for everyone's entertainment.
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Well now I am a little worried.

Got a call from the Kelowna Hospital today, the GI doctor reviewed my CT scan and wants a colonoscopy done as soon as possible which is next Tuesday.

The fact the doctor wants it done quickly, is a little concerning.
A little worrying I'm sure.. but also comforting that they have managed to get you in quickly for a colonoscopy so they can have a good look..
Keeping everything crossed for you that it's nothing serious and this is just a routine check
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