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triumphguy Nov 1st 2009 2:26 am

Cat concerns
 
The family cat is not well. I took Smokey to the vet a few days ago - he hadn't eaten for a couple of days. He was also dehydrated "depressed" and "very poorly" according to the vet. $500.00 and 2 days later and the vet cannot find anything physically wrong. We brought him home yesterday and Smokey is still not eating. :(

We've tried everything we can think of to get the dammed cat to eat.:confused::frown:

The vet says he can do exploratory surgery - and maybe/probably still find nothing since he's already done Xrays etc - or if Smokey is still not eating send him to pussy cat heaven since he is so poorly.

It's Smokey's last stand - do any of you good folks have any tips or tricks or good advice (no cat hating advice please, this animal is loved!).

Thanks

Kija Nov 1st 2009 2:34 am

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I'm very sorry to hear about Smokey's condition, it's terrible when they're ill :(

How old is Smokey? Did the vet administer any fluids? One of my dogs has kidney problems and the vet told me to give fluids subcutaneously at home, it really seems to help a lot. If Smokey is very dehydrated your vet may recommend SQ fluids too, it's not so hard to do and it really does make them feel a lot better, perhaps you could discuss this with your vet.

Did you do any blood tests?

There's a nutritional supplement named Nutrical, I get it off Amazon, I wouldn't be without it and I cannot recommend it highly enough. It's a paste form you can easily give to dogs and cats. When one of my dogs goes off her food this really helps her. Try tempting Smokey with all sorts of food, maybe something will get his appetite going :fingerscrossed: Hope Smokey gets better very soon, animals can be very resilient :fingerscrossed:

triumphguy Nov 1st 2009 2:41 am

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Yes: the vet had him on IV fluids and anti-biotics for 2 days and ran a full battery of tests. His kidneys were normal. He also gave him an appetite stimulant. xrays showed no abnormalities.

We have no real idea how old he was since he was a rescue cat. We had thought he was only 5 now, but he looks like he is 15 all of a sudden.

3 weeks ago we were beginning to think he was getting fat, now he is skin and bones. :(

Food wise I've tried salmon, tuna etc - total disdain!

FlirtyKnickers Nov 1st 2009 2:48 am

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Sorry to hear about your beloved kitty...:(

I hope Smokey gets better very soon...:wub:

It's awful when a pet is sick, i really feel for you hun...:(

Kija Nov 1st 2009 3:01 am

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Try the Nutrical, it may help :fingerscrossed: it has rave reviews from cat owners especially and because it's a paste you can rub a bit on their gums and they will ingest it, one of my dogs loves it the other hates it but will swallow it.

Is he drinking well? I don't know if you can get it there but here we have little sachets of rehydran I think it's called, when my dogs are ill I put it in their water, it's basically electrolytes etc, helps support them but sometimes they won't drink if they sense it in the water so be careful. Ask your vet if administering fluids at home will help, fluids refresh their system and help tremendously when they're not eating. Keeping them hydrated is crucial.

Hang in there, you're doing your best, that's really all you can do, I hope he takes a turn for the better soon :fingerscrossed: Smokey seems very loved and he's lucky to have someone who obviously cares a lot for him.

fledermaus Nov 1st 2009 3:05 am

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Our cat Mog was very ill about 3 years ago. She lost half her weight and was looking sad. Blood tests showed high white blood cells, everything else was ok. The vet decided she probably had lymphoma and was dying. As a last ditch attempt the vet gave her injections of antivirals and antibiotics. We took her home and pandered to her, lots of attention and cuddles. She normally hates cuddles. We also changed her cat food from the fancy vet advised one to what she used to eat in the UK. She started eating that and got better very quickly. She's now just fine and back to being a 12lb thug.

Edit: I have just been talking to Flederman about this and we wonder if she was pining. When we moved to Canada we lived with friends who had 2 cats and a dog. The cats could use a catflap during the day. The we moved to the new house when she had to be either in all day or locked out. So when the weather was bad she was locked in. In the UK, even though she was the only cat there were loads of others in the area that she could interact with. In our new place we rarely saw any other cats. So we were wondering if she was lonely. Eventually we got a kitten to keep her company. So after that ramble, is there any change of environment that will have upset the cat and if so can you correct it?

triumphguy Nov 1st 2009 3:11 am

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Thanks for the kind words and support. My kids are very worried. So they are cuddling and stroking Smokey a lot. We've just picked some mint from the garden and put it in his bed - he lies in it in summer. We also just got him a catnip toy to sniff from Walmart. When Petland opens I'll look for some of the products (or similar) that Kija mentioned.:fingerscrossed:

Alberta_Rose Nov 1st 2009 4:23 am

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poor kitty .... and poor you ! .... hope she starts getting better soon :(

mandymoochops Nov 1st 2009 4:45 am

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Aw TG I feel for you :(

Maybe this is completely wrong but if push came to shove i'd blend some tuna and milk. put it in a syringe and squirt it down his throat.

triumphguy Nov 1st 2009 4:49 am

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Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 8062315)
Aw TG I feel for you :(

Maybe this is completely wrong but if push came to shove i'd blend some tuna and milk. put it in a syringe and squirt it down his throat.

Thanks for the tip MMC - we've been squirting Whiskers "catmilk" down his throat - I'll try the tuna if he keeps that down.

Rete Nov 1st 2009 5:12 am

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Did the vet do a glucose test on Smokey? Our cat was the same and it turned out he had diabetes. It is a simply test.

fledermaus Nov 1st 2009 7:54 am

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Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 8062326)
Thanks for the tip MMC - we've been squirting Whiskers "catmilk" down his throat - I'll try the tuna if he keeps that down.

Er, I don't think fish is actually very good for cats. It may tempt his appetite but too much makes them ill. Same for milk. Don't know what catmilk is, I presume noone really milks a cat do they??:ohmy:

Ours love tinned Friskies cat foods.

triumphguy Nov 1st 2009 8:32 am

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Originally Posted by Rete (Post 8062381)
Did the vet do a glucose test on Smokey? Our cat was the same and it turned out he had diabetes. It is a simply test.

Good "ask" as they say in Canada. I'll check!

The "catmilk" is a drink for cats with electrolytes, and nutrients. We got it from the pet store.

We've been syringing 30mls of catmilk every hour, and Smokey is swallowing it, and keeping it down. So :fingerscrossed:

triumphguy Nov 1st 2009 8:34 am

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Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8062120)
Edit: I have just been talking to Flederman about this and we wonder if she was pining - For the Fjords? . .... So after that ramble, is there any change of environment that will have upset the cat and if so can you correct it?

No change that we can think of! But again, good point.

snorkmaiden Nov 1st 2009 12:25 pm

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We've been through this a few times with foster cats, and I've had a few of my clients experience it too. The problem with cats is that often when they stop eating, they get a form of anorexia, and their desire to eat just vanishes.

You have to break the cycle, and along with the nutrical, the best way I have found to do this, is to syringe feed kitty.

It can be messy, but it's really worthwhile. I usually mix a high quality canned cat food such as Wellness, Innova, Eagle Pack, (usually available in premium pet food stores) or that kind of thing, with some kitten milk formula (usually available in pet smart) or low sodium chicken broth, and a good squirt of the nutrical.

You then blend the mixture until it's soup like in texture, stick some in a syringe, and squirt it into the side of kitties mouth. Don't go for the back of the throat as they can choke on that, or inhale into their lungs.

If kitty gets it all over themselves, it doesn't matter, as their natural instinct is usually to wash, and they'll get some calories in that way.

It only usually takes a few days, (if that) to stimulate the appetite again.

Sometimes they just go off food for no apparent reason, the anorexia kicks in, and you have to get them going again.

Kija Nov 1st 2009 10:24 pm

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Passing by to check if there are any updates on Smokey. I hope he's doing better :fingerscrossed: This catmilk sounds good, that he's keeping it down is excellent :fingerscrossed: he pulls through. Hope you found the Nutrical.

triumphguy Nov 2nd 2009 2:06 am

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Not got Nutrical yet.

OH and self have been syringing 30 mil of "catmilk" into Smokey every hour. He's beginning to fight a lttle so I see that as good news.

And when he's all healthy again he'll go back to ignoring me!:thumbsup:

triumphguy Nov 3rd 2009 5:34 am

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WEll... Smokey didn't get better, and today we said "Goodbye" to him.

Thanks for your tips and help, and goodwishes.

mandymoochops Nov 3rd 2009 5:38 am

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Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 8068099)
WEll... Smokey didn't get better, and today we said "Goodbye" to him.

Thanks for your tips and help, and goodwishes.

Oh no thats sad i'm sorry TG :(




(I have spares...................!)

Linda P Nov 3rd 2009 5:41 am

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Poor Smokey.....(and family)

Big hugs to all....:(:wub:

Linda

fledermaus Nov 3rd 2009 5:42 am

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Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 8068099)
WEll... Smokey didn't get better, and today we said "Goodbye" to him.

Thanks for your tips and help, and goodwishes.

Ohh, poor thing, poor you. Did he just fade away in his sleep or did you have to make the awful decision?

Thats so sad.

Steve_P Nov 3rd 2009 5:44 am

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Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 8068099)
WEll... Smokey didn't get better, and today we said "Goodbye" to him.

So sorry to hear this news.

Sincere condolence to you and your family.

Lisa1910 Nov 3rd 2009 5:46 am

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Sorry to hear that TG. I have cats and I know how tough it can be to lose one.

:(

triumphguy Nov 3rd 2009 6:24 am

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Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 8068118)
Ohh, poor thing, poor you. Did he just fade away in his sleep or did you have to make the awful decision?

Thats so sad.

I took him to the vet.

I had my four year old with me (he didn't go into the treatment room obviously - he stayed and flirted wiht the receptionist!).

I told him Smokey had been ill, and we couldn't make him better, so we had to let him go to Cat Heaven.

He said: Are you sure Smokey is in Cat Heaven?

I said: Yes, that's where he is.

He said: Great, that means we can get another cat! Can I call him Baby Tiger!

There was me thinking he was going to be all upset!:blink:

Linda P Nov 3rd 2009 6:30 am

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Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 8068211)
I took him to the vet.

I had my four year old with me (he didn't go into the treatment room obviously - he stayed and flirted wiht the receptionist!).

I told him Smokey had been ill, and we couldn't make him better, so we had to let him go to Cat Heaven.

He said: Are you sure Smokey is in Cat Heaven?

I said: Yes, that's where he is.

He said: Great, that means we can get another cat! Can I call him Baby Tiger!

There was me thinking he was going to be all upset!:blink:

Classic.......

You wouldn't want it any other way:)

Linda

fledermaus Nov 3rd 2009 6:44 am

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Originally Posted by triumphguy (Post 8068211)
I took him to the vet.

I had my four year old with me (he didn't go into the treatment room obviously - he stayed and flirted wiht the receptionist!).

I told him Smokey had been ill, and we couldn't make him better, so we had to let him go to Cat Heaven.

He said: Are you sure Smokey is in Cat Heaven?

I said: Yes, that's where he is.

He said: Great, that means we can get another cat! Can I call him Baby Tiger!

There was me thinking he was going to be all upset!:blink:

Well you should get another one. Two actually to keep each other company.

Cat heaven. awww

Kija Nov 3rd 2009 7:18 am

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I'm so sorry Smokey didn't get better :( It's always so sad when this happens. Sorry :(

Bali2010 Nov 3rd 2009 8:54 am

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Sorry too, always tough & been there this yr myself with our dog.

Anantsiaq Nov 10th 2009 6:47 am

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I had a wonderful vet in Montreal who once told me that a cold is disastrous for a cat, because if they cannot smell food they will not eat it, and then they become dehydrated and can die. I used to foster orphaned raccoons, and we gave them Gatorade to drink; it contains electrolytes which are missing in a dehydrated animal. Try to find a vet who is elderly. They have experience and can diagnose without costly tests. Oh, dear Dr. Jasmin, how you are missed!


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