Canadian Values
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Re: Canadian Values
Wikipedia says that in the 2006 war 22,000 British citizens were evacuated from Lebanon. The Red Cross says that the majority of the million people evacuated from Lebanon returned mostly to find their homes uninhabitable. I haven't been able to find any other references to the people of the country carrying out the rescue complaining about ungrateful dual citizens.
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Re: Canadian Values
Old Citizenship Act.
you were born outside Canada and at least one of your parents was born in Canada,
you were born outside Canada and at least one of your parents was naturalized in Canada before your birth,
Many of them had never lived in Canada but were Canadian citizens as seen above. Their parents had registered their births and applied for Citizenship Certificates therefore eligible to apply for Canadian passports.
It cost approx $100 million regarding the evacuation and within 12 months most returned to the Lebanon. This is what caused the comments by some.
There are many on here who have both Canadian and UK citizenship living in Canada. Dual citizens cannot be deported from Canada but it does ask the question if an expat living in Canada got into serious trouble would you even consider asking the UK Embassy/Consulate for assistance? You have that option.
Canadian citizenship is seen by some countries who allow dual citizenship to be like winning the lottery. As citizenship can be passed on though not as liberally now with the new changes to the Act such as this clause
you are born outside Canada to Canadian parent(s) on or after April 17, 2009, but neither parent was born or naturalized in Canada you are not a Canadian citizen.
So effectively you could be a Canadian citizen having never lived in Canada and 70 years later you now make the decision to now live in Canada. Why is that you think?
Im just the messenger these are not my personal views.
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Not as simple as that. Many of the Lebanese had gained citizenship either through birth in Canada and then went to the Lebanon at a very early age or had it passed on by having a parent who was a Canadian citizen but they themselves were born in the Lebanon.
Old Citizenship Act.
you were born outside Canada and at least one of your parents was born in Canada,
you were born outside Canada and at least one of your parents was naturalized in Canada before your birth,
Many of them had never lived in Canada but were Canadian citizens as seen above. Their parents had registered their births and applied for Citizenship Certificates therefore eligible to apply for Canadian passports.
It cost approx $100 million regarding the evacuation and within 12 months most returned to the Lebanon. This is what caused the comments by some.
There are many on here who have both Canadian and UK citizenship living in Canada. Dual citizens cannot be deported from Canada but it does ask the question if an expat living in Canada got into serious trouble would you even consider asking the UK Embassy/Consulate for assistance? You have that option.
Canadian citizenship is seen by some countries who allow dual citizenship to be like winning the lottery. As citizenship can be passed on though not as liberally now with the new changes to the Act such as this clause
you are born outside Canada to Canadian parent(s) on or after April 17, 2009, but neither parent was born or naturalized in Canada you are not a Canadian citizen.
So effectively you could be a Canadian citizen having never lived in Canada and 70 years later you now make the decision to now live in Canada. Why is that you think?
Im just the messenger these are not my personal views.
Old Citizenship Act.
you were born outside Canada and at least one of your parents was born in Canada,
you were born outside Canada and at least one of your parents was naturalized in Canada before your birth,
Many of them had never lived in Canada but were Canadian citizens as seen above. Their parents had registered their births and applied for Citizenship Certificates therefore eligible to apply for Canadian passports.
It cost approx $100 million regarding the evacuation and within 12 months most returned to the Lebanon. This is what caused the comments by some.
There are many on here who have both Canadian and UK citizenship living in Canada. Dual citizens cannot be deported from Canada but it does ask the question if an expat living in Canada got into serious trouble would you even consider asking the UK Embassy/Consulate for assistance? You have that option.
Canadian citizenship is seen by some countries who allow dual citizenship to be like winning the lottery. As citizenship can be passed on though not as liberally now with the new changes to the Act such as this clause
you are born outside Canada to Canadian parent(s) on or after April 17, 2009, but neither parent was born or naturalized in Canada you are not a Canadian citizen.
So effectively you could be a Canadian citizen having never lived in Canada and 70 years later you now make the decision to now live in Canada. Why is that you think?
Im just the messenger these are not my personal views.
#94
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But it's all okay as we got Lennox Lewis back, we gained Greg Rusedski and then Owen Hargreaves played football for England never having lived or worked in England so it all evens out.
Not to mention Zola Budd
Not to mention Zola Budd
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I think bats nailed the Harper government at "bigoted and churlish".
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Well I can't comment on what stories he heard. There were discussions about the cost of the evacuation and that after several months nearly all of them returned to the Lebanon. They were citizens of convenience. They only intended to return to Canada to retire and get better health benefits or any other benefits available to retirees. The evacuees were complaining about the method of being evacuated i.e. economy class on commercial airlines or a very slow boat with no modern frills.
I wonder what would happen if Canada suffered a catastrophic event how many Brits would need evacuating back to the UK and how the UK Govt would deal with it and how these expats would be looked upon by the UK residents?
I wonder what would happen if Canada suffered a catastrophic event how many Brits would need evacuating back to the UK and how the UK Govt would deal with it and how these expats would be looked upon by the UK residents?
Would anyone on this forum surrender UK Citizenship if Canada ever legislated against dual nationality? From conversations it seems Italian Canadians, Greek Canadians and Portuguese Canadians dont particularly care and would surrender their country of origin citizenships.
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Would anyone on this forum surrender UK Citizenship if Canada ever legislated against dual nationality? From conversations it seems Italian Canadians, Greek Canadians and Portuguese Canadians dont particularly care and would surrender their country of origin citizenships.
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Many of them had never lived in Canada but were Canadian citizens as seen above. Their parents had registered their births and applied for Citizenship Certificates therefore eligible to apply for Canadian passports.
It cost approx $100 million regarding the evacuation and within 12 months most returned to the Lebanon. This is what caused the comments by some.
It cost approx $100 million regarding the evacuation and within 12 months most returned to the Lebanon. This is what caused the comments by some.
Perhaps you've forgotten that the 2006 evacuation came about because Hezbollah abducted TWO Israeli soldiers from across the northern border and that Israel's "proportionate" "measured" response was to unleash a full on assault by air. land and sea against the civilian populations of Beirut, Tyre and most of the rest of Lebanon.
Of course Canada could have made a distinction between Canadians and "Canadians" but Harper was new then and took a bit longer to reveal that he was a racist.
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They did. Alive.
Perhaps you've forgotten that the 2006 evacuation came about because Hezbollah abducted TWO Israeli soldiers from across the northern border and that Israel's "proportionate" "measured" response was to unleash a full on assault by air. land and sea against the civilian populations of Beirut, Tyre and most of the rest of Lebanon.
Of course Canada could have made a distinction between Canadians and "Canadians" but Harper was new then and took a bit longer to reveal that he was a racist.
Perhaps you've forgotten that the 2006 evacuation came about because Hezbollah abducted TWO Israeli soldiers from across the northern border and that Israel's "proportionate" "measured" response was to unleash a full on assault by air. land and sea against the civilian populations of Beirut, Tyre and most of the rest of Lebanon.
Of course Canada could have made a distinction between Canadians and "Canadians" but Harper was new then and took a bit longer to reveal that he was a racist.
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They did. Alive.
Perhaps you've forgotten that the 2006 evacuation came about because Hezbollah abducted TWO Israeli soldiers from across the northern border and that Israel's "proportionate" "measured" response was to unleash a full on assault by air. land and sea against the civilian populations of Beirut, Tyre and most of the rest of Lebanon.
Of course Canada could have made a distinction between Canadians and "Canadians" but Harper was new then and took a bit longer to reveal that he was a racist.
Perhaps you've forgotten that the 2006 evacuation came about because Hezbollah abducted TWO Israeli soldiers from across the northern border and that Israel's "proportionate" "measured" response was to unleash a full on assault by air. land and sea against the civilian populations of Beirut, Tyre and most of the rest of Lebanon.
Of course Canada could have made a distinction between Canadians and "Canadians" but Harper was new then and took a bit longer to reveal that he was a racist.
Yes Im aware of what happened in 2006. The Canadians in Lebanon were evacuated and thousands were brought back to Canada by various means.
Now any disparaging comments made about this evacuation were made by some Canadians I was just reporting what had been said or what I know to have been said by various media sources in 2006.
I benefit from dual citizenship but I have my own thoughts on the subject of dual citizenship.
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+1 to that. I can also think of alot of people on here who wouldn't be indifferent to losing their UK citizenship and rightfully so.