Canada one of seven countries due for debt crises and recession
#31
BE Enthusiast
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 860
Re: Canada one of seven countries due for debt crises and recession
Ha ! What surprised me, reading the book, is that it's not even created from the future, but literally out of thin air !!
It all started with gold and silver. But that's impractical to carry around. So you'd leave your stash with a goldsmith, pawnbroker or scrivener, take a note from them that says "I promise to pay the bearer x amount of solid gold". But you soon find out that you don't really need to retrieve the gold, you just pass the note to someone else in exchange for goods or services. So people started using this as 'money'.
So far this is what people usually expect.
Now comes the black magic. Goldsmiths were sitting on a stash of gold, and they knew it was 'inconceivable' that everyone would come and get it at the same time. So they could lend it out at interest, and make free money for themselves. And they didn't need to lend out the actual gold, they could print new notes to do so, since their notes were already used as 'money' !
Strictly speaking they committed fraud: the note spoke of actual gold, but the deposit was not there, it did not exist. But no-one could tell the difference between an actual deposit receipt and a fictitious one.
This ability gave goldsmiths (later called bankers) enormous power. Soon the King and Parliament, unable to raise enough taxes, came to rely on goldsmiths' ability to create money.
Any remaining doubts about the legality of goldsmith's notes were removed with the Promissory Notes Act 1704. This increased the state's spending power and allowed the creation of modern modern commercial bank money.
It all started with gold and silver. But that's impractical to carry around. So you'd leave your stash with a goldsmith, pawnbroker or scrivener, take a note from them that says "I promise to pay the bearer x amount of solid gold". But you soon find out that you don't really need to retrieve the gold, you just pass the note to someone else in exchange for goods or services. So people started using this as 'money'.
So far this is what people usually expect.
Now comes the black magic. Goldsmiths were sitting on a stash of gold, and they knew it was 'inconceivable' that everyone would come and get it at the same time. So they could lend it out at interest, and make free money for themselves. And they didn't need to lend out the actual gold, they could print new notes to do so, since their notes were already used as 'money' !
Strictly speaking they committed fraud: the note spoke of actual gold, but the deposit was not there, it did not exist. But no-one could tell the difference between an actual deposit receipt and a fictitious one.
This ability gave goldsmiths (later called bankers) enormous power. Soon the King and Parliament, unable to raise enough taxes, came to rely on goldsmiths' ability to create money.
Any remaining doubts about the legality of goldsmith's notes were removed with the Promissory Notes Act 1704. This increased the state's spending power and allowed the creation of modern modern commercial bank money.
Last edited by FlyingDutchman6666; Apr 3rd 2016 at 1:03 am.
#33
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
Posts: 962
Re: Canada one of seven countries due for debt crises and recession
I'm not sure if you actually believe that or if you're being sarcastic. Either way that is clearly not how currency markets work.
#34
Binned by Muderators
Joined: Jul 2007
Location: White Rock BC
Posts: 11,682
Re: Canada one of seven countries due for debt crises and recession
You are the only one banging on about currency markets. We are discussing debt and growth.
Last edited by JonboyE; Apr 4th 2016 at 5:00 pm.
#35
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 14,227
Re: Canada one of seven countries due for debt crises and recession
Banks use money markets for a number of reasons, one of them is to sell their loans so that they can keep within their capital ratio limits and carry on lending.
Where do you think they get their money from?