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dbd33 Aug 2nd 2017 6:06 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by Snowy560 (Post 12307842)
A lot of people in the UK think Canada is the same as or an extension of the US!

I think that's about right. It's like thinking Flanders and Wallonia are both Belgium; people in one or both of them might disagree but the rest of the world will go along with it.

Stinkypup Aug 2nd 2017 6:16 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by geoff52 (Post 12307841)
I would concur broadly with the article.

I moved from the UK nearly thirty years ago to Toronto and both of my kids went through the Canadian education system and have done extremely well.

My relatives kids have all done very well in terms of education.

Probably first generation immigrant syndrome.

Teachers have a higher statues and are better paid in Canada compared to UK.

Really? That sounds a smidge anecdotal/Geoff-hunch to me- how can you generalise like that? Stability of maintaining a job is way less in Canada
I presume you meant status...again- justify that comment please

BristolUK Aug 2nd 2017 6:33 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup
I presume you meant status...

I like the statue idea personally.

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Very odd that...I had Stinkypup quoted but it was showing Snowy. I over-typed Snowy with Stinky and Snowy still showed up.

I edited again to say that I definitely had Stinky in there but Snowy was showing up and guess what. This time Stinky did show up. :confused:

Stinkypup Aug 2nd 2017 6:41 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12307886)
I like the statue idea personally.

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Very odd that...I had Stinkypup quoted but it was showing Snowy. I over-typed Snowy with Stinky and Snowy still showed up.

I edited again to say that I definitely had Stinky in there but Snowy was showing up and guess what. This time Stinky did show up. :confused:

Yeah- the Stinky virus seems to be embedding on quite a few PCs at the moment- I would run an antivirus programme and that should clear me off the site.....


You wish :lol:

hannah1001 Aug 2nd 2017 9:28 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 
I'm a UK teacher and have neither statues or status!

One of my cleverest kids recently asked me if Venice was a country, so I really don't think that their grasp of geography is any better than their Canadian counterparts! (Not my fault though.... I'm history not geography!!)

dbd33 Aug 2nd 2017 11:22 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by hannah1001 (Post 12308015)
I'm a UK teacher and have neither statues or status!

One of my cleverest kids recently asked me if Venice was a country, so I really don't think that their grasp of geography is any better than their Canadian counterparts! (Not my fault though.... I'm history not geography!!)

I have some children who attended school in Canada. They complained relentlessly about history saying there really isn't any; it's the Plains of Abraham every year. I asked how come, since there's so little history, they didn't score 100% every time but that was thought unhelpful.

They did their parents proud, all getting through high school without being pregnant, but none of them knows Greek and only one Latin so I don't know that you could say they're educated.

caretaker Aug 2nd 2017 11:36 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by hannah1001 (Post 12308015)
I'm a UK teacher and have neither statues or status!

One of my cleverest kids recently asked me if Venice was a country, so I really don't think that their grasp of geography is any better than their Canadian counterparts! (Not my fault though.... I'm history not geography!!)

That rang a bell, (Canadian educated). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Venice

hannah1001 Aug 2nd 2017 7:47 pm

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12308081)
That rang a bell, (Canadian educated). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Venice

I'd love to give her the benefit of the doubt but I really don't think she was referring to historical Venice! 😂
Top marks for combining the humanities though!!

hannah1001 Aug 2nd 2017 7:56 pm

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12308072)
I have some children who attended school in Canada. They complained relentlessly about history saying there really isn't any; it's the Plains of Abraham every year. I asked how come, since there's so little history, they didn't score 100% every time but that was thought unhelpful.

They did their parents proud, all getting through high school without being pregnant, but none of them knows Greek and only one Latin so I don't know that you could say they're educated.

Not sure I'd be much help with the Greek and Latin... ancient languages aren't my strong point!
I am a little twitchy about the lack of history in schools, but my poor son gets enough history edutainment at home to last him a lifetime!

scot47 Aug 2nd 2017 10:40 pm

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 
I don't know about Canada but here a kid who gets out of School with basic literacy and numeracy is definitely a winner.

Atlantic Xpat Aug 3rd 2017 1:48 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12307874)
Really? That sounds a smidge anecdotal/Geoff-hunch to me- how can you generalise like that? Stability of maintaining a job is way less in Canada
I presume you meant status...again- justify that comment please

My wife is a teacher and I put her on a pedestal. Is that like being a statue?;)

Teaching in Canada is generally better paid than in the UK. It is thus a sought after career. Whether society at large regards teachers as having higher status in Canada vs the UK I couldn't say. My wife's experience in teaching in the UK (2000-2004) leads her to believe that teachers are more highly regarded in Canada.

JamesM Aug 3rd 2017 5:48 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12308072)

They did their parents proud, all getting through high school without being pregnant, but none of them knows Greek and only one Latin so I don't know that you could say they're educated.

You only need 3 languages English, Football and Love.

After getting an "E" for GCSE french I have never deviated from that.

hannah1001 Aug 3rd 2017 6:03 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by scot47 (Post 12308358)
I don't know about Canada but here a kid who gets out of School with basic literacy and numeracy is definitely a winner.

:sad_smile:

What was I saying about UK teachers having low status?

dbd33 Aug 3rd 2017 6:10 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 12308735)
You only need 3 languages English, Football and Love.

After getting an "E" for GCSE french I have never deviated from that.

iirc, I achieved "unclassified failure" in French at the CSE level. I suppose my teacher might have been surprised that, shortly thereafter, I married a unilingual francophone with whom I then had the marginally enlightened children.

Allie73 Aug 3rd 2017 6:26 am

Re: Canada: an education superpower
 
I have 3 children in Primary school in Ontario and I have been somewhat disappointed with what I feel are gaps in their education here. They are entering grades 4 and 5 and have not been taught history other than pioneers (no actual historical events), no handwriting and no computer studies at all. My eldest did all those things by Year 1 in the UK.


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