Busman's holiday- testing out NHS care
#17
Re: Busman's holiday- testing out NHS care
I did ask what if I wasn't insured and the officer involved said that they would ask the patient to pay, if they didn't, they probably would get the treatment but they would liaise with the Home Office and if they tried to re-enter the UK there would likely be "issues"
I was today annoyed to hear from Snoop that someone from this end advised the insurance company that they had to pay a £6000 guarantee or they wouldn't do the surgery. I have to say that makes me bloody mad. They would do it on someone else not insured but because we had the sense to get insurance they indirectly threatened the company because of the fact that they could get money and threatened to withhold treatment that could prevent serious harm to my health- they wouldn't do it till money was actually in hand-
Word to the wise, make sure you get good health travel insurance wherever you are travelling
Nor had any inclination.
Last edited by Stinkypup; Mar 24th 2017 at 11:59 pm.
#18
limey party pooper
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 9,982
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Had you hit the Pimms a bit early? They had plenty of bandages in the Egyptian room to help you out- was it good, the museum, not your poorly joints?
stone cold sober. I think I would have bounced better if I'd had a drinkie, there would have been more "tuck and roll". Museum is excellent, full of enthusiastic and noisy school kids all getting in the way. They should be bunking off and not getting an education"
Thanks, that sounds barbaric- they are supposed to triage appropriately- you need a rip roaring sepsis so just dick around for a few days before you go inlike I did
there was an article in the local paper when I was home about a local GP who had died after failing to diagnose his own sepsis. Unnecessary and unjust criticism as clarity of thought isn't a feature of sepsis now is it?
What because of our two hearts and interchangeable private parts?
so that's what they meant
#19
Re: Busman's holiday- testing out NHS care
I was today annoyed to hear from Snoop that someone from this end advised the insurance company that they had to pay a £6000 guarantee or they wouldn't do the surgery. I have to say that makes me bloody mad. They would do it on someone else not insured but because we had the sense to get insurance they indirectly threatened the company because of the fact that they could get money and threatened to withhold treatment that could prevent serious harm to my health- they wouldn't do it till money was actually in hand-
Word to the wise, make sure you get good health travel insurance wherever you are travelling .
#20
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Glad to hear you're on the mend! We're off to the UK in two weeks- will chase the hubby up about our health insurance!
#21
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Glad you got fixed up (great luck having that specialist and his laser). It might not have the visual or auditory appeal of having them exploded with tiny charges inserted on probes while you sit in a bomb-disposal tub full of water but sounds very interesting. In the old days you might have died, and here you didn't even derail your holiday very badly.
My friend was visiting England back in the 70's and she needed a tooth filled; to her surprise there was no charge. They said because she had been born in England NHS covered her.
My friend was visiting England back in the 70's and she needed a tooth filled; to her surprise there was no charge. They said because she had been born in England NHS covered her.
Last edited by caretaker; Mar 25th 2017 at 1:25 am.
#22
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Sorry to hear about your kidney stone problem but glad you've been fixed up and are as good as new now.
Interesting about payment...it never occurred to me that they would pick up on a non active NHS number. I thought all emergency treatment was undertaken for free...perhaps that would have been the case had you not been insured.
4 years ago I had to go the the ER here in Toronto with diverticulitis...we were living in the US at the time. I spent 5 days in hospital...cost approx $40K. Although we had insurance...a little man was sent to accompany hubby to the office to settle the bill before I was discharged. We then had to claim the money back from our insurance company.
Enjoy the rest of your holiday in Blighty.
Interesting about payment...it never occurred to me that they would pick up on a non active NHS number. I thought all emergency treatment was undertaken for free...perhaps that would have been the case had you not been insured.
4 years ago I had to go the the ER here in Toronto with diverticulitis...we were living in the US at the time. I spent 5 days in hospital...cost approx $40K. Although we had insurance...a little man was sent to accompany hubby to the office to settle the bill before I was discharged. We then had to claim the money back from our insurance company.
Enjoy the rest of your holiday in Blighty.
#23
Banned
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: SW Ontario
Posts: 19,879
Re: Busman's holiday- testing out NHS care
I go awol for a few days and come back to see I've missed all the excitement!
Glad to hear that you are on the road to recovery and that you are able to continue with your holiday in blighty.
Glad to hear that you are on the road to recovery and that you are able to continue with your holiday in blighty.
#24
Account Closed
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 0
Re: Busman's holiday- testing out NHS care
The clinic/urgent care (no real hospital there) in Whistler has a sign at registration that say's they don't direct bill insurance and patients will need to provide payment + doctor fee's+supplies+lab etc at time of service and seek reimbursement from their insurance.
Sorry to hear about your kidney stone problem but glad you've been fixed up and are as good as new now.
Interesting about payment...it never occurred to me that they would pick up on a non active NHS number. I thought all emergency treatment was undertaken for free...perhaps that would have been the case had you not been insured.
4 years ago I had to go the the ER here in Toronto with diverticulitis...we were living in the US at the time. I spent 5 days in hospital...cost approx $40K. Although we had insurance...a little man was sent to accompany hubby to the office to settle the bill before I was discharged. We then had to claim the money back from our insurance company.
Enjoy the rest of your holiday in Blighty.
Interesting about payment...it never occurred to me that they would pick up on a non active NHS number. I thought all emergency treatment was undertaken for free...perhaps that would have been the case had you not been insured.
4 years ago I had to go the the ER here in Toronto with diverticulitis...we were living in the US at the time. I spent 5 days in hospital...cost approx $40K. Although we had insurance...a little man was sent to accompany hubby to the office to settle the bill before I was discharged. We then had to claim the money back from our insurance company.
Enjoy the rest of your holiday in Blighty.
#25
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In that case they probably have the same here. I was whisked straight through and given morphine...can't say I noticed any signs...can't say I noticed anything to be honest.
#26
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I'm really pleased to hear that you survived your encounter with the NHS and that you're well under way to getting well again.
The posts from other members highlight the lottery that can befall the unlucky.
Like many others on this site I lived most of my life in the UK and for all of that time rarely gave the NHS a second thought.
It is a measure of the success of the NHS that simply the knowledge that it was there meant that a potential source for worry just never existed, the NHS, with all its faults, truly is a 'health care' system. Some might argue that it succeeds because of the generosity of the workforce and in spite of government budget restrictions.
In many respects I'm an idealist. When I hear politicians exclaim that the first duty of a government is the protection of its citizens and use this argument to fund military spending I would argue that a corollary of this argument should include the health of it's citizens. The NHS has it's critics.. but the reasoning behind it's existance scores high in my view.
Once you introduce the profit incentive into the system, I would argue that it ceases to become truly 'health care' and one of 'health provider'. Now I've no objection to this in principle but it can become obcene 10 Wildly Overinflated Hospital Costs | Reader's Digest
Tales of refusal to treat without cash in hand begger belief and bring the conduct of the profession as a whole into question but I suspect that the hands of the accountant, shareholder and suppliers are more likely to be influencing the decision making.
The posts from other members highlight the lottery that can befall the unlucky.
Like many others on this site I lived most of my life in the UK and for all of that time rarely gave the NHS a second thought.
It is a measure of the success of the NHS that simply the knowledge that it was there meant that a potential source for worry just never existed, the NHS, with all its faults, truly is a 'health care' system. Some might argue that it succeeds because of the generosity of the workforce and in spite of government budget restrictions.
In many respects I'm an idealist. When I hear politicians exclaim that the first duty of a government is the protection of its citizens and use this argument to fund military spending I would argue that a corollary of this argument should include the health of it's citizens. The NHS has it's critics.. but the reasoning behind it's existance scores high in my view.
Once you introduce the profit incentive into the system, I would argue that it ceases to become truly 'health care' and one of 'health provider'. Now I've no objection to this in principle but it can become obcene 10 Wildly Overinflated Hospital Costs | Reader's Digest
Tales of refusal to treat without cash in hand begger belief and bring the conduct of the profession as a whole into question but I suspect that the hands of the accountant, shareholder and suppliers are more likely to be influencing the decision making.
#27
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A couple of days away on the Island and you start messing around!! Glad it all went as well as it good. I hope you can enjoy the rest of the trip!!