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Old May 27th 2016, 5:38 pm
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Originally Posted by not2old
OP, why would an expat that has been living outside the UK forever & a day, with likely zero intention of returning back, why should they give a toss about the EU referendum?
- concern for relatives and friends in the UK
- living in an EU country and finding status at risk
- residual hope of return
- a personal political belief in the merits of being in, or out, or in then out and then in again
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Old May 27th 2016, 7:46 pm
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
Conceivably, in or out might affect pension uprating.
I guess with the UK pension its the difference between if buying one meal a week out or two!
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Maybe, if the economy collapses, we can all afford to go home!
I have a UK trip planned just after the vote. I'm hoping for a vote to leave so that I can do this on the cheap.
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Old May 27th 2016, 7:56 pm
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Originally Posted by dbd33
- the merits of being in, or out, or in then out and then in again

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Old May 27th 2016, 10:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Aviator
I guess with the UK pension its the difference between if buying one meal a week out or two!
For the first year, maybe. But then in the next year eating out twice a week and in year 3 eating out three times a week.

Of course if you're used to gourmet dining nightly already it might be less of a difference. Maybe a bottle of wine instead of plonk.
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Old May 27th 2016, 11:26 pm
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Originally Posted by not2old
OP, why would an expat that has been living outside the UK forever & a day, with likely zero intention of returning back, why should they give a toss about the EU referendum?
Hi
the many reasons others have already given, without a crystal ball no one really can say where they are in the future,
but only where they would like to be
i currently plan on being in canada but who knows the future ??

so its nice to have a plan B

maybe even the option of snowbirding in the eu for longer than 3 months, somewhere

or if it all fails here, back to ole blighty

snowbirding from here down south seems a bit risky

cheers
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Old May 28th 2016, 3:00 am
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I'm a PR not a citizen. My UK passport is all I've got. I'd like to think that I could go back if I want to or need to plus still go to Europe without having to get a visa or that I could stay for some time/work in another European country.

I care: I'm a stay in person and I arranged a proxy vote.

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Old May 28th 2016, 9:57 am
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Criticize me all you want but I find it rather ironic or perplexing that UK citizens living and working outside the UK and the EU (bar a few exceptions) are concerned about this vote.

If the UK & EU is so important then why did you leave in the 1st place?
Why pick Canada when you had 27 other EU countries to choose from to live and work in?
I see posters on here moaning how long it is taking CIC to grant them PERMANENT residency status in Canada. Think about that PERMANENT not temporary.

So lets say the UK votes OUT would you then say well Im not going back to the UK. No doubt some will moan if the vote is REMAIN and say they are not going back.

So apart from those with Canadian spouses or on an Inter Company Transfer why did you all leave the UK in the 1st place? Will I get the usual well it was an adventure or a challenge or wanted to do something different or was it the UK was shite and there were no jobs for me?
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Old May 28th 2016, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Criticize me all you want but I find it rather ironic or perplexing that UK citizens living and working outside the UK and the EU (bar a few exceptions) are concerned about this vote.

If the UK & EU is so important then why did you leave in the 1st place?
Why pick Canada when you had 27 other EU countries to choose from to live and work in?
I see posters on here moaning how long it is taking CIC to grant them PERMANENT residency status in Canada. Think about that PERMANENT not temporary.

So lets say the UK votes OUT would you then say well Im not going back to the UK. No doubt some will moan if the vote is REMAIN and say they are not going back.

So apart from those with Canadian spouses or on an Inter Company Transfer why did you all leave the UK in the 1st place? Will I get the usual well it was an adventure or a challenge or wanted to do something different or was it the UK was shite and there were no jobs for me?
"Permanent" is about the right, not about where you choose to live.

Jerry's argument about not knowing what the future holds for him makes perfect sense.
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Originally Posted by Shard
"Permanent" is about the right, not about where you choose to live.

Jerry's argument about not knowing what the future holds for him makes perfect sense.
In Jerrys case I agree but nobody has a Permanent right to live in Canada except those who were born in Canada or have citizenship or PR status. Those without that status apply and if accepted get that status. Those people chose to apply, Canada did not go out and recruit them to come per se.
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Old May 28th 2016, 12:34 pm
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Default Re: brexit or not postal vote

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
If the UK & EU is so important then why did you leave in the 1st place?
Why are you describing it as "so important"?

Do you ever look at a British newspaper? Of course you do. But why did you leave Britain in the first place if looking at a British paper is so important to you?

Why pick Canada when you had 27 other EU countries to choose from to live and work in?
What makes you think people picked it over European countries? Did everybody offered the chance to work in Canada also have European choices? Those who met and married Canadians, did they also have European fiancées/fiancés for whom they 'rejected' and chose the Canadian one instead?

I see posters on here moaning how long it is taking CIC to grant them PERMANENT residency status in Canada. Think about that PERMANENT not temporary.
And how many then focus on the minimum time necessary to maintain that. How often do we see "get Canadian citizenship so that when you leave you have the option to return if wanted" because permanent and citizenship don't meant being chained to the country

So apart from those with Canadian spouses or on an Inter Company Transfer why did you all leave the UK in the 1st place?
Damn!! You just ruined one of my points. But only one.
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Originally Posted by BristolUK
Why are you describing it as "so important"?

Well they are having a referendum vote so it must be important

Do you ever look at a British newspaper? Of course you do. But why did you leave Britain in the first place if looking at a British paper is so important to you?

Certain UK newspapers still have scantily clad women plus I want to know how many players Man Utd are signing and going to spend since Jose became the manager.

What makes you think people picked it over European countries? Did everybody offered the chance to work in Canada also have European choices? Those who met and married Canadians, did they also have European fiancées/fiancés for whom they 'rejected' and chose the Canadian one instead?

Im guessing they picked Canada over certain EU countries as Canada has English has an official language. Germany and France not so much.

And how many then focus on the minimum time necessary to maintain that. How often do we see "get Canadian citizenship so that when you leave you have the option to return if wanted" because permanent and citizenship don't meant being chained to the country

I call them country shoppers who believe that when they retire Canada will offer them more than the countries they chose to work in.

Damn!! You just ruined one of my points. But only one.
Sorry

Im just wondering why they need to vote to EXIT or REMAIN in the 1st place?
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Old May 28th 2016, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
So apart from those with Canadian spouses or on an Inter Company Transfer
...and those on an IEC. As we are only temporary residents in Canada and may or will go back to the UK.
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Even Permanent Residents, in my opinion, do not have a very secure status. In fact, I think it's quite insecure. Often PRs have given up a lot, as I have. Sold the house etc. Gave up a career I had in the UK which I haven't been able to replicate here. I could be removed or have my PR status revoked. Unlikely I know, but I do care what happens in the UK and right now I believe I should.

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Old May 28th 2016, 6:44 pm
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So apart from those with Canadian spouses or on an Inter Company Transfer why did you all leave the UK in the 1st place? Will I get the usual well it was an adventure or a challenge or wanted to do something different or was it the UK was shite and there were no jobs for me?
That.

I'm sure those who would answer that question with a yes ( as I do) are in a minority here. And some of us don't have a vote in the referendum.


I'm not sure exactly what your point is?
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