Brexit benefit
Sep 28th 2021, 4:55 pm
#76
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Re: Brexit benefit
Brits who happen to be engineers work in SI. Its only an issue of tradition in matters like buying a pound of X and the silliness of banning it.
In Canada we seem to be bipolar in the matters of prices per unit of X in the supermarket. Nobody is going to prison for using lb as far as I can tell.
In Canada we seem to be bipolar in the matters of prices per unit of X in the supermarket. Nobody is going to prison for using lb as far as I can tell.
For all intents and purposes Britain is a metric country, has been for decades. All manufacturing and engineering is carried out in SI units, the tradition of buying a pint of beer or a pound of apples and travelling in miles are the only imperial units used... which as you say was a ridiculous reason to ban it, it would have eventually fizzled out on its own, no eurocrat interference was ever required, it wasn't causing any harm as the important things had already crossed over to metric years ago! I was taught the metric system at school and the imperial system was a history subject, not something that was ever going to be used.
Its only since I have worked in Canada that I have actually had to learn the imperial system for real, and Canada is supposed to be a metric country!.... its ruled by its exports to the US who will never change.
Sep 28th 2021, 4:58 pm
#77
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Re: Brexit benefit
The EU as we currently know it, will collapse.
Sep 28th 2021, 5:10 pm
#78
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Re: Brexit benefit
Does that work both ways?
Unpicked food in the fields and now - according to the Haulage association - a quarter of the number of the driver shortage down to Brexit contributing to petrol shortages at the pumps and other supply issues, with the likelihood of the army being called in.
Unpicked food in the fields and now - according to the Haulage association - a quarter of the number of the driver shortage down to Brexit contributing to petrol shortages at the pumps and other supply issues, with the likelihood of the army being called in.
That would be fine if you were involved in a new referendum to rejoin. From this side of the pond, that doesn't appear to be on the cards.
Sep 28th 2021, 5:14 pm
#79
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Re: Brexit benefit
I am not a Scottish nationalist but I disagree with you that the Scottish independence referendum put the issue to bed for a generation. A key argument in the Scottish independence referendum was the notion of EU membership - the UK government argued that an independent Scotland would not automatically gain EU membership, and knowing how important that was to the majority of Scots voters, insisted that the best way, or indeed only way, to retain EU membership was to remain in the UK. And a mere 2 years later Scotland was dragged out of the EU by the UK.
I'm sure that any competent lawyer could find a 'material change' argument in there somewhere.
There are many people who are coming to the realisation that a 51.8% result in a vote is, correctly, not a ringing endorsement. The sooner we as a nation accept that you can't force almost half the country to agree with you, the better the place will be. Consensus politics will always be better than simply denial of opposition.
I'm sure that any competent lawyer could find a 'material change' argument in there somewhere.
There are many people who are coming to the realisation that a 51.8% result in a vote is, correctly, not a ringing endorsement. The sooner we as a nation accept that you can't force almost half the country to agree with you, the better the place will be. Consensus politics will always be better than simply denial of opposition.
I completely agree with your last sentence.
Sep 28th 2021, 7:35 pm
#81
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Re: Brexit benefit
The problem with Britain heading back to the EU is they had such a good deal before and likely would not get as good terms again. It was better to keep renegotiating from within than to tare out and try and start again. For now the course is set and Britain phases a tough transition period which at some point will almost certainly involve the loosening of immigration and movement once more.
Sep 28th 2021, 7:52 pm
#82
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Re: Brexit benefit
I am not a Scottish nationalist but I disagree with you that the Scottish independence referendum put the issue to bed for a generation. A key argument in the Scottish independence referendum was the notion of EU membership - the UK government argued that an independent Scotland would not automatically gain EU membership, and knowing how important that was to the majority of Scots voters, insisted that the best way, or indeed only way, to retain EU membership was to remain in the UK. And a mere 2 years later Scotland was dragged out of the EU by the UK.
I'm sure that any competent lawyer could find a 'material change' argument in there somewhere.
There are many people who are coming to the realisation that a 51.8% result in a vote is, correctly, not a ringing endorsement. The sooner we as a nation accept that you can't force almost half the country to agree with you, the better the place will be. Consensus politics will always be better than simply denial of opposition.
I'm sure that any competent lawyer could find a 'material change' argument in there somewhere.
There are many people who are coming to the realisation that a 51.8% result in a vote is, correctly, not a ringing endorsement. The sooner we as a nation accept that you can't force almost half the country to agree with you, the better the place will be. Consensus politics will always be better than simply denial of opposition.
Sep 28th 2021, 8:06 pm
#84
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Re: Brexit benefit
On another point here, no eurocrats imposed metric on the UK. Some industries in the UK liked it and adopted it pre-EU, some in the EU era. I expect industry will carry on with the same units now. It's not EU related.
If you think the EU imposed metric, look at a road sign and think about it.
Sep 28th 2021, 10:21 pm
#85
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Re: Brexit benefit
Sep 28th 2021, 10:55 pm
#86
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Re: Brexit benefit
Well poo.
I thought this was supposed to be a bit light hearted, tongue in cheek . It's quickly morphed into yet more of the same.
I thought this was supposed to be a bit light hearted, tongue in cheek . It's quickly morphed into yet more of the same.
Sep 28th 2021, 11:33 pm
#87
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Re: Brexit benefit
I think you will find that I have a consistent history here of posting approximately "leave the EU, are you nuts?". No hindsight required.
On another point here, no eurocrats imposed metric on the UK. Some industries in the UK liked it and adopted it pre-EU, some in the EU era. I expect industry will carry on with the same units now. It's not EU related.
If you think the EU imposed metric, look at a road sign and think about it.
On another point here, no eurocrats imposed metric on the UK. Some industries in the UK liked it and adopted it pre-EU, some in the EU era. I expect industry will carry on with the same units now. It's not EU related.
If you think the EU imposed metric, look at a road sign and think about it.
Your opinion about the past is completely wrong. I can tell you that because, unlike with the future, I happen to know the past. EU directives postulated metrication. UK was permitted to delay compliance a few times but had to comply eventually. The measurements directive was one of several. Each member had to comply. You should check out EU Directives. Fun read. I used to have to know some of them for a living. And even wrote some of the implementation guidance. Yep, I am to blame.
Sep 29th 2021, 11:06 am
#89
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Re: Brexit benefit
Wasn't the whole Brexit debate about bendy versus straight bananas? I guess certain things have always been measured in inches. 
Last edited by Oink; Sep 29th 2021 at 11:16 am.