Best review I've seen in a long time.
May 6th 2011, 3:39 am
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Re: Best review I've seen in a long time.
I disagree, sexism operates independently of objectification, one (and by one I mean men) can discriminate without considering the physical nature of the person (and by person I mean woman) against whom the discrimination is practised. Canadian employers, for example, pay less to women without regard for whether they are deemed "douche bags" or "cutie pies" (the only two expressions I've heard potential employers use to categorise females). Dividing the female population into such categories is objectification, paying them less regardless of configuration is sexism.
'Objectification' <shudder> is saying, "Nice arse, love, now go and make us a cup of tea."
Sexism is not inviting her to the lapdancing club on the works night out.
May 6th 2011, 3:51 am
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Re: Best review I've seen in a long time.
Nothing wrong with sexism providing you cover it up with a thin veil of irony.
You see how it works:
Me: Put the kettle on luv
Missus: That's sexist.
Me: No it's ironic
Missus: <makes cup of tea>
You see how it works:
Me: Put the kettle on luv
Missus: That's sexist.
Me: No it's ironic
Missus: <makes cup of tea>
May 6th 2011, 4:15 am
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Re: Best review I've seen in a long time.
You are right about it being crappy journalism though, but wrong that it would be OK if it were "hottest firemen". Hopefully my kids will realise by then that objectification of anyone based on appearances is a pretty shallow thing to do. To be honest I find the the whole "Lad Mad" mentality profoundly depressing.
May 6th 2011, 4:40 am
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Re: Best review I've seen in a long time.
Except that it perpetuates the idea that its OK for "blokes" to carry on in this way of course.
You are right about it being crappy journalism though, but wrong that it would be OK if it were "hottest firemen". Hopefully my kids will realise by then that objectification of anyone based on appearances is a pretty shallow thing to do. To be honest I find the the whole "Lad Mad" mentality profoundly depressing.
You are right about it being crappy journalism though, but wrong that it would be OK if it were "hottest firemen". Hopefully my kids will realise by then that objectification of anyone based on appearances is a pretty shallow thing to do. To be honest I find the the whole "Lad Mad" mentality profoundly depressing.
May 6th 2011, 5:04 am
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Re: Best review I've seen in a long time.
Except that it perpetuates the idea that its OK for "blokes" to carry on in this way of course.
You are right about it being crappy journalism though, but wrong that it would be OK if it were "hottest firemen". Hopefully my kids will realise by then that objectification of anyone based on appearances is a pretty shallow thing to do. To be honest I find the the whole "Lad Mad" mentality profoundly depressing.
You are right about it being crappy journalism though, but wrong that it would be OK if it were "hottest firemen". Hopefully my kids will realise by then that objectification of anyone based on appearances is a pretty shallow thing to do. To be honest I find the the whole "Lad Mad" mentality profoundly depressing.
It's also not just limited to blokes. Implying that is just sexist
But yes, articles like this are crap in the same way as those suggesting the best places in the world to live.
May 6th 2011, 5:19 am
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Re: Best review I've seen in a long time.
May 6th 2011, 5:28 am
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Re: Best review I've seen in a long time.
Except that it perpetuates the idea that its OK for "blokes" to carry on in this way of course.
You are right about it being crappy journalism though, but wrong that it would be OK if it were "hottest firemen". Hopefully my kids will realise by then that objectification of anyone based on appearances is a pretty shallow thing to do. To be honest I find the the whole "Lad Mad" mentality profoundly depressing.
You are right about it being crappy journalism though, but wrong that it would be OK if it were "hottest firemen". Hopefully my kids will realise by then that objectification of anyone based on appearances is a pretty shallow thing to do. To be honest I find the the whole "Lad Mad" mentality profoundly depressing.
IMO this article was completely light-hearted and tongue-in-cheek - I enjoyed it.
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May 6th 2011, 5:29 am
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May 6th 2011, 5:30 am
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Re: Best review I've seen in a long time.
You have been in Canada too long.
Guys will always state such things about girls, girls will always state such things about guys. I am confident that, perish the thought, you girls may one day say such things about members of the opposite sex, or other girls if the fancy takes them. I say this as a father of 2 girls myself.
Guys will always state such things about girls, girls will always state such things about guys. I am confident that, perish the thought, you girls may one day say such things about members of the opposite sex, or other girls if the fancy takes them. I say this as a father of 2 girls myself.
May 6th 2011, 5:37 am
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Re: Best review I've seen in a long time.
Moncton not there then?
May 6th 2011, 5:38 am
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Re: Best review I've seen in a long time.
Not to labour the point but I realise that people will look at other people and say "He/ She is fit", thats human nature. It the painting of broad steotypes and the mentality that goes that step farther and applies that to whole cities/ areas that I find sad and shallow.
Then again, lots of people used to find Bernard Manning funny too, its was just a bit of fun right?
Then again, lots of people used to find Bernard Manning funny too, its was just a bit of fun right?
May 6th 2011, 5:46 am
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Re: Best review I've seen in a long time.
May 6th 2011, 5:48 am
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