dbd33

Oh.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...urns-published

scrubbedexpat091

I didn't look much into Trump's running mate as I will not vote for Trump but on the ballot I got from California, his running mate isn't even a Republican. He is listed as American Independent.

At least they are last on the ballot, but of course Trump has 0 chance at winning California.

dave_j

Look around you, look at the bleaters on the TV.

Trump was once considered a buffoon with a knack for making himself heard and one who accidentally hit a raw nerve with many american republicans.

I suspect that he entered the republican race to make a few dollars and to show others that his head was just a little bigger and stood just a little higher than theirs. As a no-hoper, there'd be no shame in bowing out gracefully, but events took control.

Fate can be fickle and he now finds himself trapped in a cage of his own making, and having risen to the nomination finds that his ego and circumstances won't permit him to withdraw, indeed he may well now see himself as THE saviour of the US, whereas earlier he could only suggest that he should be.

He knows that promises he's made are hollow because congress would very likely place a straightjacket on him, but that plays to his strength. If elected he could point to the political class as anti-american, and who knows where that would end.

And what do we see when we look around for ourselves?

The media, who for so long has paraded Trump before us for so many hours as a source of cheap TV, now begin to understand what they've done and are massing against him. Politicians realised this some time ago when they changed their attitude from one of derision to one of fear.

I think this election hangs in the balance and depends less on how Trump behaves and rather more on how others seek to demonise him. His tax or tax free statements, leaked by some 'well wisher', might very well go in Trump's favour, it depends how he chooses to play the story. As the strong man, he should parade himself as a financial genius and promise to do the same for the US on the world stage and use his tax record as proof that he can do what he says.

Note that I've not mentioned Clinton in this rant at all. Clinton, to my mind, is a weak player and her past actions seek to place her as the beneficiary, or otherwise, of the Trump campaign.

The election is Trump's to win, Clinton will pick up the pieces one way or the other, but she will not have shown herself to be worthy of the office.

magnumpi

If you look at the USA trailer park 2016 election thread Dave you will see a lot of love for Clinton, I think they believe she will win with out any issues what so ever.

Remind me of the Brexit vote in a way, no one would believe the UK would actually leave, would they?

Oink

Bravo, at least you tried to support your position with some data.

scrubbedexpat091

I feel like it may turn into a very close election, possibly one winning without having a majority of the popular vote.

BristolUK

Have you been Tango'd?

dbd33

You're being deliberately moronic here. She's worthy of the office because she's held a number of posts immediately junior to it for many years. She's worthy of the office because she is a serious and well educated person.

The Republicans have failed the country in not running a serious candidate, knockabout fun though their man is.

Gordon Barlow

I'm sorry to see that there are any Clinton supporters in Canada. Gosh! Canada has always been a wonderfully conscientious advocate of human rights in the world, and it has a proud record in that regard. So the idea of the nation giving moral support and sustenance to the campaign of a woman who bears a major responsibility for the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in the Middle East is pretty shocking.

If US citizens want to choose their President on the basis of domestic policies, let them. As a nation, USA doesn't care about human rights anywhere in the world. Look at the fuss they make about the four Americans killed in Benghazi, and their silence about their government's wanton slaughter of the native populace. They have no social conscience. Canadians do, and they should know better than to compare Trump with a monstrous mass-murderer. He might become one, in office - who knows? But his hands have no blood on them yet.

dbd33

Not that this has anything to do with the glowing Donald but didn't the native population of Canada suffer wanton slaughter in much the same manner of that of the US? Aren't their descendants trapped on reservations in much the same way as the descendants of the native population of the US?

Residential schools and all that, this is a bizarre issue on which to claim the moral high ground for Canada.

Oh, and thinking Trump a ridiculous parody of a candidate doesn't make one a supporter of Clinton. I image John McCain, for example, is aghast at the idea of a Trump presidency without being a fan of Clinton.

Gordon Barlow

Well, of course. And it happened in Australia too. And the Anglo-Saxons ripped the native Celts something awful in Britain a while back. But that was then, and this is now. You may sneer at it, dbd, but beyond its borders Canada and Canadians have an admirable reputation in the field of human rights, beginning (?) with the writers of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights back in the 1940s. Sadly, Canada is an active member of NATO, which is a violently anti-human-rights organisation; nevertheless, it has ideals that the US no longer has, and Canada's general public deserves to be honoured for that. The world needs more idealists, after all.

scrubbedexpat091

Not like the party had much choice, at this rate I am not even sure the party itself wants Trump, they just had to go with what voters in the primaries wanted.

Running someone who didn't win the primaries would not have benefited the party either.

bats

It might have that reputation beyond its borders but I see little evidence of individual Canadians having ideas that support human rights.

Gordon Barlow

If you live in Canada, then you would know about that more than I would, and I bow to your superior judgment. (Your public profile doesn't say where you live.) The point is, on the topic of Trump supporters in Canada, that a great many people outside the USA favour Trump over Clinton. Especially those who live in the killing fields of the Middle East, of course, and those who sympathise with them. Trump want to be President of his country: Hillary wants to be Emperor of the World. He is a patriot with (arguably) fanciful ideals; she's just a thug.

magnumpi

So Trump tax docs were leaked stating he lost a load of money in 1995 which means he would be eligible to not pay tax for 2 decades.

So is he Silly not to actually release these figures himself which would have easily explained his tax situation??