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scottymallo May 2nd 2008 11:54 pm

ANY PR still commuting to the UK for Work?
 
Any PRs still commuting to the UK for Work? I have been in Canada since Jan 08.
Basically as a Visitor only! I am currently going through the sponsorship route as a spouse. I have tried on numerous occasions to understand the Tax implications when i become a PR. I have even had the UK tax advisor for my company look into the situation still no clearer. How will i pay canadian tax! AS my UK tax will automatically come out as i am on the UK pay roll for my company. Any help or any one who is currently doing the same please advise!

Marathonwreck 2 May 3rd 2008 12:23 am

Re: ANY PR still commuting to the UK for Work?
 

Originally Posted by scottymallo (Post 6302158)
Any PRs still commuting to the UK for Work? I have been in Canada since Jan 08.
Basically as a Visitor only! I am currently going through the sponsorship route as a spouse. I have tried on numerous occasions to understand the Tax implications when i become a PR. I have even had the UK tax advisor for my company look into the situation still no clearer. How will i pay canadian tax! AS my UK tax will automatically come out as i am on the UK pay roll for my company. Any help or any one who is currently doing the same please advise!

Hi Scottymallo
I ended up in a similar scenario(it wasn't planned that way). Tax was, as usual , deducted at source in UK. Keep payslips and any tax receipts you get. At the end of the finacial year,(the canadian one) pick a local accountant , explain the situ and he'll prepare a canadian tax return for you. Expect to have to pay a small 'top-up' depending on salary and deductions etc. Local accountant fees should be pennies(mine was) and give you a no-hassle intro to Canadian daylight robbery........sorry canadian tax collection. :p I still commute...........these days to Africa but fortunately for the canadian branch of my company....which gives me at least 'some' taxbreaks.........:unsure:

Souvenir May 3rd 2008 12:30 am

Re: ANY PR still commuting to the UK for Work?
 

Originally Posted by scottymallo (Post 6302158)
Any PRs still commuting to the UK for Work? I have been in Canada since Jan 08.
Basically as a Visitor only! I am currently going through the sponsorship route as a spouse. I have tried on numerous occasions to understand the Tax implications when i become a PR. I have even had the UK tax advisor for my company look into the situation still no clearer. How will i pay canadian tax! AS my UK tax will automatically come out as i am on the UK pay roll for my company. Any help or any one who is currently doing the same please advise!

I work for a UK company. I was a PR when I started but am now a citizen. I am permanent member of staff, with the same package I would have if I was in London. I am paid monthly by direct transfer into my Canadian bank account. My employer picks up the charges. I am paid gross and there are no employee or employer deductions. The UK taxman is not interested in me and because I am not on a Canadian payroll, there is no PAYE mechanism.

In the first year (2004), on the advice of the Canadian tax people, I waited until my accountant did my tax return and then sent Revenu Quebec and the CRA what I owed. Both of them then sent me a schedule of payments to be made in 2005 (estimates based on the tax paid in 2005). Imbalances are sorted in the annual tax return. When I did my return for 2007, I still owed the province; the Feds owed me.

I work from home. The Canadian tax people view me as self-employed, so I get to deduct stuff.

scottymallo May 3rd 2008 12:43 am

Re: ANY PR still commuting to the UK for Work?
 
Marathonwreck 2 I think i will be in a similar situation to yourself! I am in uk 40% tax bracket currently losing 29% at the moment including national insurance! What do you do regarding national insurance? and How much are we talking with this Candian top up? £100s or £1000s! I m might have to look into getting a job in Canada! if it s to much! it's already costing £400 a month in flights.
cheers
Scottymallo

souvenir cheers for the info!

Souvenir May 3rd 2008 1:01 am

Re: ANY PR still commuting to the UK for Work?
 

Originally Posted by scottymallo (Post 6302275)
Marathonwreck 2 I think i will be in a similar situation to yourself! I am in uk 40% tax bracket currently losing 29% at the moment including national insurance! What do you do regarding national insurance? and How much are we talking with this Candian top up? £100s or £1000s! I m might have to look into getting a job in Canada! if it s to much! it's already costing £400 a month in flights.
cheers
Scottymallo

souvenir cheers for the info!

I pay into the Canada Pension Plan. I don't pay UI (=NI) because I am self employed. I'd never be able to claim it anyway.

If you are deemed resident in Canada, you must file a tax return here. The consider your worldwide income, as do the Brits. I also file a UK tax return. That only covers income etc in the UK because I'm not resident in the UK. My Canadian return covers all my income but I get a credit for any tax I have paid in the UK. You don't get done twice.

You need to establish where you are resident for tax purposes.

Souvenir May 3rd 2008 1:42 am

Re: ANY PR still commuting to the UK for Work?
 

Originally Posted by scottymallo (Post 6302275)
Marathonwreck 2 I think i will be in a similar situation to yourself! I am in uk 40% tax bracket currently losing 29% at the moment including national insurance! What do you do regarding national insurance? and How much are we talking with this Candian top up? £100s or £1000s! I m might have to look into getting a job in Canada! if it s to much! it's already costing £400 a month in flights.
cheers
Scottymallo

souvenir cheers for the info!

Here are some numbers for you to play with. Most of my income is in the top bracket. I have the misfortune to live in Quebec, where the top rate is the highest in the country (24%) and kicks in much earlier than elsewhere (below C$60k). Last year I got my gross down by about C$15k, mainly through RRSPs. The Feds took 15% of taxable. Quebec took 24%. That's a total tax hit of 39%.

Marathonwreck 2 May 3rd 2008 4:04 am

Re: ANY PR still commuting to the UK for Work?
 

Originally Posted by scottymallo (Post 6302275)
Marathonwreck 2 I think i will be in a similar situation to yourself! I am in uk 40% tax bracket currently losing 29% at the moment including national insurance! What do you do regarding national insurance? and How much are we talking with this Candian top up? £100s or £1000s! I m might have to look into getting a job in Canada! if it s to much! it's already costing £400 a month in flights.
cheers
Scottymallo

souvenir cheers for the info!

Hi Scottymallo
Well, top up obviously depends on income etc. but on what i consider a reasonably substantial income, for 5 months (that fell into the first canadian tax year), I had to cough up about $1300... Flights? oh well....mine were provided by employer of course...:D they are certainly paying for my flights now as each way is some 8300 miles.......:unsure:bit of an XXL carbon footprint I suppose.......:o

scottymallo May 3rd 2008 5:28 pm

Re: ANY PR still commuting to the UK for Work?
 
Thats a decent commute least only 6 trips a year! im currently work the 2 on 3 off rota so 10 trips! Trying to get a transfer to Angola so will get flights paid! but trying to mentally viv myself up to work for a month at a time!!

Marathonwreck 2 May 3rd 2008 7:10 pm

Re: ANY PR still commuting to the UK for Work?
 

Originally Posted by scottymallo (Post 6304510)
Thats a decent commute least only 6 trips a year! im currently work the 2 on 3 off rota so 10 trips! Trying to get a transfer to Angola so will get flights paid! but trying to mentally viv myself up to work for a month at a time!!

Hi scottymallo
Angola, eh ? Well that's where i hang my hat just now.....:( Paradise lost......NOT. Hope you know what you're in for:unsure: Prepare to turn grey and pull out any hair you may have.......:p If you don't mind me asking......give me a clue who you work for......oil-patch I take it ?

scottymallo May 4th 2008 1:52 am

Re: ANY PR still commuting to the UK for Work?
 
Hi working for BP at the moment! recieved a job offer from Total Friday! so im in a situation were i can stick with bp then hope to get to angola or baku. Or move to total for better cash straight 2/3 rota still in the northsea or try and get a job in a refinery in BC! job role CRT, OH want s me to settle in BC. What about yourself?


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