Another human rights issue
Mar 27th 2017, 6:28 pm
#31
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Re: Another human rights issue
Mar 27th 2017, 6:32 pm
#32
Bex in the city
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Re: Another human rights issue
It was disgusting - all manner of bodily fluids across the toilet pans and seats, UV lighting to stop people shooting up in there, graffiti everywhere and most of the toilet doors had their locks broken.
I will hold it in now without going into these places because despite the fact I've paid to use it, they don't seem to keep it clean!
Mar 27th 2017, 7:06 pm
#33
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Re: Another human rights issue
Does every coffee shop, cafe, etc in the UK have a washroom for the use of customers?
If so, what is their policy towards non-customers wanting to use said bathroom?
I don't know what the situation in Australia is now, but I know cafes and tea shops at one point did not have to have a washroom for their customers .............. that could be very interesting with a toddler! Try changing the diaper on a park bench 'cos there was literally nowhere else.
They didn't have to .......... and that was a great surprise coming from Canada where every place that served drink and food had to have a washroom for the CUSTOMERS. I know they were not always easily accessible, even for able-bodied people ............
"Go through that door, down the corridor, turn left, go down the stairs to the half landing, turn right, and you'll see it. Oh, here's the key."
That was almost literally still the case at Murchie's on Government Street in Victoria 5 years ago, but was very common in the 70s!
If so, what is their policy towards non-customers wanting to use said bathroom?
I don't know what the situation in Australia is now, but I know cafes and tea shops at one point did not have to have a washroom for their customers .............. that could be very interesting with a toddler! Try changing the diaper on a park bench 'cos there was literally nowhere else.
They didn't have to .......... and that was a great surprise coming from Canada where every place that served drink and food had to have a washroom for the CUSTOMERS. I know they were not always easily accessible, even for able-bodied people ............
"Go through that door, down the corridor, turn left, go down the stairs to the half landing, turn right, and you'll see it. Oh, here's the key."
That was almost literally still the case at Murchie's on Government Street in Victoria 5 years ago, but was very common in the 70s!
Mar 27th 2017, 7:28 pm
#34
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Re: Another human rights issue
Good for you, if you were disabled and had mobility issues you might not have been so lucky. I took a look for Ontario handicapped advocacy and didn't see much that appeared relevant so applying to the Human Rights Commission is probably the only channel available for her to try outside of litigation, which isn't her objective. I thought there might be some sort of special ombudsman for the disabled but maybe the HRC is best. The one Saskatchewan HRC investigation I gave a statement in left me impressed with their methods, and the complainant won. Maybe the result here will be nothing, maybe a recommendation for more public toilets, maybe she won't be approved for an inquiry at all. If the other patrons in the coffee shop had been polite enough to let her cut in the line in the first place none of it would have happened.
Mar 27th 2017, 7:37 pm
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Mar 27th 2017, 9:01 pm
#36
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Re: Another human rights issue
Way back when I was young in the UK finding a public toilet was rarely an issue.
Those Victorians and Edwardians recognised the need and built, as only they could, magnificent edifices and many still survive.
What they did was recognise a social need and spent money to satisfy it.
Today, we hear the excuse.. 'public toilets cost money, taxpayers money, so it can't be justified. This is the accountant talking, failing to recognise that taxpayers are the ones in need.
But why satisfy the social need when private businesses will do this for you? All we need to do is institute a bylaw that forces businesses like restaurants to provide them instead.
It's disgraceful when local authorities abrogate responsibility like this. It's why we pay local taxes, not to provide deep pile carpets, plush limousines and excessive expenses for local politicians.
Those Victorians and Edwardians recognised the need and built, as only they could, magnificent edifices and many still survive.
What they did was recognise a social need and spent money to satisfy it.
Today, we hear the excuse.. 'public toilets cost money, taxpayers money, so it can't be justified. This is the accountant talking, failing to recognise that taxpayers are the ones in need.
But why satisfy the social need when private businesses will do this for you? All we need to do is institute a bylaw that forces businesses like restaurants to provide them instead.
It's disgraceful when local authorities abrogate responsibility like this. It's why we pay local taxes, not to provide deep pile carpets, plush limousines and excessive expenses for local politicians.
Mar 27th 2017, 10:37 pm
#38
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Re: Another human rights issue
What about those poor folks you mentioned could not hold it in, is it not their basic human right to not have to pay-to-poop or get covered in someones sloppy seconds?
Mar 27th 2017, 11:08 pm
#40
Bex in the city
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Re: Another human rights issue
Yet again arguing with me. Is this your highlight of the day? You must have such a boring life lol
Last edited by beckiwoo; Mar 27th 2017 at 11:11 pm.
Mar 27th 2017, 11:23 pm
#43
Bex in the city
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Re: Another human rights issue
Mar 27th 2017, 11:36 pm
#45
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Re: Another human rights issue
I can't be arsed, haha, to reread the previous posts but seriously? Denying someone the right/ opportunity to poop? What is your problem, it really isn't something that can be controlled or scheduled. On one occasion I did knock on someone's Dior ans ask to use their loo. They looked a bit worried but I left my handbag with them as some sign of faith.