The age old question
 

why is it do you think that our American cousins south of us, even in the UK are going to outlive those in Canada?

According to stats Canada

Statistics Canada findings indicate the average Canadian man can expect to live about 68.9 healthy years. Women will reach 71.2 years.
Those figures are based on a tool that measures various risks to estimate how long a person will likely live a higher quality of life. The numbers are even better in B.C. and Quebec where men live almost 70 years, and women around 72.5 years in good health.

According to the US social security agency

https://www.ssa.gov/planners/lifeexpectancy.html

According to data compiled by the Social Security Administration:

A man reaching age 65 today can expect to live, on average, until age 84.3.
A woman turning age 65 today can expect to live, on average, until age 86.6.
And those are just averages. About one out of every four 65-year-olds today will live past age 90, and one out of 10 will live past age 95.

UK, according to the ONS

8 facts about life expectancy and the 90 & over population - ONS

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You are not comparing apples with apples. If you look at lists of life expectancy all three countries are similar but Canada has the better numbers.

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When the grim reaper comes for you you're age isn't the foremost thing on his mind. It's your time.

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I think the more interesting question is in which country do old people age better. What's old? 70+ is old. On entirely unscientific evidence, from what I can see, old people in Canada seem healthier, more robust, and happier than in Britain. Its probably the cold weather vs the damp weather. YMMV.

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Statistically, someone who has reached 65 must have a higher life expectancy than the general population.

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Bingo.

In any case, life expectancy is going to explode over the next 20-30 years. Every week or two there's some new result in the study of ageing, or radical new methods of fixing the damage it causes.

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Are you getting nervous? ;)

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70 next birthday, I figure that I have 30 years more to go

death becomes those that worry about it.

Seeing I've got this far, its just a shame I cannot live to 150... never say never:eek:

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some winter days shovelling the white stuff-you're probably right

I would say 90 is old, then I look at my FIL who is 97 this year, lives on his own in a detached bungalow, still drives his Subaru & I begin wonder.... how old is old?

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"Old" is your current age +20. Yes, it's all relative. :)

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You've beaten Jesus Christ so you're on a winner no matter what.

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:goodpost:

I remember when I was a teen seeing a 30+ year old women with several children & thinking ... god awful, she is old

or, the OAP (probably in the 65-70 age range - survivors of the great war) few if any existed back then, if there was any you'd see them sitting on the park bench, bent over, walking wobbly... that too me back then was 'dead old'

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question is 'have you'?

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source:CBC quoted from a WHO report

In Canada,average life expectancy for males born in 2012 is 80 and for females 84, the agency said in Thursday's report, World Health Statistics 2014.

In comparison, males born in Canada in 1990 could expect to live to 74 and females to 81 on average.

For both sexes in Canada, life expectancy increased on average from 77 in 1990 to 82 in 2012..

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I wouldn't mind to living to an old age provided I am in reasonably good health, especially in the brain.

What point is there to living an old age if you end up in hospital bed for 10-15 years not really there with no real clue of what is going on?

My great grandmother lived to 95, died in 2007 or around there, was in decent health until around 89, then she got a tumor in the brain (non-cancerous apparently) and here final 5 years she wasn't really there, didn't know who anyone was, could no longer walk etc.

Her sister lived to 87 or 88, her last 7 years or so she was completely gone memory and brain wise, her son was well off though and retired to care for her.


My mom's dad is still alive at 81. Her mom died in 1968 of non-natural causes so who knows how long she could have lived.


My dads side is hard since everyone up to his sisters and my dad drank and smoke, my dad doesn't, so I can't say how long men on his side live.

My grandmother on that side lived to 52 or so and died of non-natural causes and my grandfather died at 63 due to complications (secondary infection of chest cavity) of bypass surgery, he had also had a stroke around 54 when he had surgery done on is artery in his neck.

My great grandfather on that side lived to 73 and died of a heart attack (lived through the first one out of hospital, then died of another while in hospital a few days later.)

My uncle on my dads side (grandfathers brother) died young of non-natural causes.




I couldn't even try and start to have any reasonable idea of how long I may live, I seem to have gotten at the less desirable genes from both sides health wise....

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seeing that you're in your late 30's, would you consider living till age 50 that you've accomplished a milestone?

JS, set the target to 80 like your past family members achieved:thumbsup:

BTW, would you consider me 'as old'?

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If I died at 50, it wouldn't be much of an accomplishment considering how late into life I have started things most start in their 20's.....


From my perspective someone in their 70's is old, not ancient, but certainly old. My parents in their late 50's (58 now) are also what I would consider old, but there are also people who consider me old, all depends how old you are as to what is old...


My sister in laws kid (6) saw my grey in my 4 day old beard and said, " you must be really old and pointed to the grey." but to a 5 year old I would certainly be considered old...:lol: For the record I am 8 years younger then her parents are.


At 20, 40 seemed old, at 36, 40 doesn't seem so old anymore.

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I'm less convinced about this 'side' thing than I was. My mum is 83 next month and her parents went into their 80s while an aunt went into her 90s. Mum still drives, although now recovering from a hip replacement replacement which she managed to dislocate twice. :ohmy:

My dad died at 51 but he had older relatives.

My mother in law is a sprightly 77 and has outlived three daughters who all died of different things over a period of about 8 years. Lost her husband in that period too.

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Of those who died of natural causes, they tended to live over 80. There are just so many non-natural deaths it really skews my family history....

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JS @ post #17 interesting point of view

So back to the thread title

Seems most folks think anyone older than they are are considered 'old'. JS point about being 'ancient' is valid, but only when everyone they know who older than them have died.

Baring any freak accidents, communicable diseases, act god or of war

The guideline predictor or indicator of 'how long you will live' is to look at past family members age of death, have you yourself lived a healthy, fruitful & happy life. Is your outlook positive - do any of you 'the BE members' want to live to 100 years old - I certainly do?

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How much do these average life expectancy figures change if you take out accidental deaths (car accidents, etc)? Anybody know where to look for figures like that?

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No. You are younger than Springtime it seems.. I thought you were at least 97 and a 1/2 .

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I'm benchmarking 120 as 150 is somewhat unrealistic. :)

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And then, of course, there's The Death Clock - When Am I Going To Die? :lol:

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you posted that one previously.

When I went through it at that time ... based on my age, non smoker, low BMI & lifestyle, the results weren't too good coming in somewhere in the 73 age range.

Maybe stats Canada as I indicated in my OP use the non scientific 'death clock'

Live life long & prosper ;)

edit: I redid the death clock, my terminal date came in at October 2020

Re-entered a different birth date 10 years later, result was October 2030

entering a birth date of January 1943- result is my time is up this year in 2016

conclusion: the death clock is set to anyone, no matter what age they are, to terminate at age 73

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I wish. According to that thing I don't have long to go. If I hadn't clicked pessimistic the first time I certainly would now. Better get started on the bucket list , I haven't got long.:(

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Agree. I am a 51 yar old male, non smoker with a BMI of 24 and it said i'm going to croak when I'm 73. No questions about history of disease in immediate family, where I live, job, hobbies, exercise, amount I drink, amount I drive etc.

It is a fluff website. About as deep as a Daily Mail article.

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The fun part is when it says you already snuffed it.

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On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.

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Very Keynesian.

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sorted

try this one

https://www.myabaris.com/tools/life-...g-will-i-live/

on this calculator, my expiry age score is 92 years old, which is 8 years less than my expectation

My wifes score came in at 94

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Good one. 88. Lower than I would like.

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I saw it in a film.

Although I did do a bunch of stuff with life tables about 20 years ago. Was interesting, but I've no wish to repeat it. Too much maths.

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Probably not your subject, nothing to be ashamed of.

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I like the deathclock Makes me giggle in a last breath type of way.

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97 Despite being pudgy these days & all the wine consumed . :eek:

I like this calculator.

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It is't. I did it at uni but have forgotten pretty much everything I learned. Which wasn't a lot - I only got a richard.

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i'm 63 & I remember rejoicing at reaching the perfect age of 32- seems like moments ago. I don't want to live beyond my ability to be fully funtioning. I've been naughty & good, laughed, cried, had 3 children & 6 grandchildren, love them all dearly plus the man I share my life with. I think I should be grateful to have had all this so not afraid to die.

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I though the key reason why life expectancy in Canada was lower was the winter
In all three countries the fatality rate goes up in extreme weather conditions for the elderly
Its just that in Canada the extreme conditions are harder and last longer....