Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12488211)

Yeah....its only in the trigger happy US that the supspect would have been shot dead.... this situation would have been handled very similar to this in the UK too.

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12488211)

Yeah....its only in the trigger happy US that the supspect would have been shot dead.... this situation would have been handled very similar to this in the UK too.

Originally Posted by carcajou (Post 12487868)

I noticed Arabic writing on some of the windows in photos.

I don't know Toronto very well, does that neighbourhood have a lot of migrants from Islamic areas like Pakistan, the Middle East, etc?

Before we brush this aside as another "lone nut" after another one of the "fastest police investigations in history," consider what I wrote earlier about Christian-Muslim pogroms in the part of the world the killer apparently hails from, or at least has lineage from. That sort of baggage doesn't just get automatically dropped behind at a Canadian (or German) border because someone's family migrated. Canadians have certainly already learned that lesson.

Consider why they might have migrated . . .

Inter-ethnic strife being imported to Western countries, is something officials have been worrying about for a while.

So let's not wave this off just yet as a lone nut. It may well be! But certainly a police investigation like this can't be concluded in a matter of a few hours - no matter how politically beneficial that might be to some figures.

Originally Posted by mahdawg (Post 12488233)

I think the only reason the suspect isn't dead/ wasn't shot is because the officer was confident he wasn't armed.

Still commendable how he handled it.

Originally Posted by macadian (Post 12488365)

Agreed....I would hope that if he had ANY doubt that what was pointed at him was a gun, he would have shot first. Better to be judged by twelve, the subject of an enquiry or trial, than carried by six.

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12487706)

A bit over cautious of the cops. Given what happened, he could have fired on a cop and added another fatality. RIP Toronto 9. :(

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12488361)

You win the BE "Jumping to Conclusions" award.

Originally Posted by carcajou (Post 12488602)

I would think the press should win the "Jumping to Conclusions" award for saying, just hours after, "lone nut, no terror here" which has already been walked back to "motive unclear." As I predicted.

Originally Posted by carcajou (Post 12488602)

Really? I just challenged the "lone nut" conclusion by saying it was too early to tell.

I would think the press should win the "Jumping to Conclusions" award for saying, just hours after, "lone nut, no terror here" which has already been walked back to "motive unclear." As I predicted.

Maybe it will turn out to be a lone nut. But these things don't get cracked in two or three hours and any "conclusion" coming out in the immediate aftermath - whatever conclusion that is - needs to be taken with a grain of salt.

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12488835)

Really? Your first comment was that you saw Arabic writing on one photo and then rambled on about the possible ethinc mix and links to terror. You didn't ruminate in the effect of the LCBO, or the bank, or any of the other stores. Just those darned Arabs.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12488858)

It now seems that he killed a bunch of people because he was pissed that he couldn't get laid. Not being in America, he couldn't easily machine gun them so, aping the television, he ran them down with a van.

Banality of evil, innit.

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12488910)

Yep, and rabid misogynists are praising his actions.

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12488914)

Did he run down only women? Some sort of feminist rally? I don't think so. Perhaps he was unsuccessfully bisexual.

Originally Posted by Steve_ (Post 12488524)

Yeah I agree, everyone seems to be saying how wonderful it was that the cop acted with restraint, more like stupidity. He comes to a stop directly next to the guy, if he had had a gun, that cop would have been dead before he stepped foot out of the car. SOP is to come to a barricade position at a safe distance and aim over the hood of the car, he didn't even attempt to do that.