8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
Nov 25th 2015, 8:50 am
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
Unless highly skilled, Canada is not the land of opportunity thats for sure.
Nov 25th 2015, 8:56 am
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
How is it any different from present day education/work balance in the UK?
Nov 25th 2015, 9:14 am
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
There was an ad today on FB from the province advertising their Work BC services, and the headline was " 8 out of 10 jobs by the end of the decade will require post secondary education." They didn't specify where they got the numbers from.
I couldn't find anything regarding Canada, but found a few sources from the US that say 65% of jobs in the US by 2020 will require some sort of post secondary education, not necessarily a degree though.
Maybe this is why it's getting so hard to find a job...
What do you all think, will it be that high in a mere 4 years?
Looking at the provincial stats for the Lower Mainland/Southwest BC which includes Metro Vancouver, Fraser Valley, Sunshine coast, and Squamish-Whistler-Pemberton-Lillooet. region. Bit of a large area include them all into 1, but tis the way they do it.
Anyhow majority of jobs 63% will be from retiring workers, and 37% will be new jobs created by economic activity.
Vast majority of jobs 82% will be in some sort of services, 18% are related to goods.
Top careers for the region are apparently:
Mine service workers and operators in oil and gas drilling
Underground miners, oil and gas drillers and related occupations
Contractors and supervisors, mining, oil and gas
Managers in natural resources production and fishing
Optometrists, chiropractors and other health diagnosing and treating professionals
I am not sure there is much a future in this area...... No idea where mines and miners would even work in this region, but this is what the province claims to be the in demand jobs.
Info all obtained from workbc.ca
I couldn't find anything regarding Canada, but found a few sources from the US that say 65% of jobs in the US by 2020 will require some sort of post secondary education, not necessarily a degree though.
Maybe this is why it's getting so hard to find a job...
What do you all think, will it be that high in a mere 4 years?
Looking at the provincial stats for the Lower Mainland/Southwest BC which includes Metro Vancouver, Fraser Valley, Sunshine coast, and Squamish-Whistler-Pemberton-Lillooet. region. Bit of a large area include them all into 1, but tis the way they do it.
Anyhow majority of jobs 63% will be from retiring workers, and 37% will be new jobs created by economic activity.
Vast majority of jobs 82% will be in some sort of services, 18% are related to goods.
Top careers for the region are apparently:
Mine service workers and operators in oil and gas drilling
Underground miners, oil and gas drillers and related occupations
Contractors and supervisors, mining, oil and gas
Managers in natural resources production and fishing
Optometrists, chiropractors and other health diagnosing and treating professionals
I am not sure there is much a future in this area...... No idea where mines and miners would even work in this region, but this is what the province claims to be the in demand jobs.
Info all obtained from workbc.ca
http://www.workbc.ca/WorkBC/files/5f...75ca7448b7.pdf
Nov 25th 2015, 9:56 am
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
Add in being like me and wanting to GTFO to Europe as soon as I graduate, with no networking or help from the university in terms of placement unless its within Canada, things are a little difficult.
The Canadian education rigamarole is fine if you want to stay in Canada. But if you want to get out, it seems its considerably harder to be seen as "relevant" to European employers.
The other option of course is to do a 2 year college program and do 2-4 years of bottom level helpdesk stuff, before being able to move up, which nets less $ per annum in the long term, as a degreed employee will mostly always earn more and have more opportunities to move up the ladder.
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Nov 25th 2015, 9:59 am
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
2 out of 10 jobs don't need a post secondary education is t that a good thing?
Nov 25th 2015, 11:08 am
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Problem is not everyone is capable of attaining a degree and are considered unemployable by the companies who insist on higher education when a lot of those jobs which require a degree dont need one nor have a relevant degree so its just any old degree.
Such is life in Canada.
Nov 25th 2015, 11:57 am
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
Work for yourself, then you're the master of your own destiny and not beholden to qualifications and petty minded employers.
Nov 25th 2015, 12:05 pm
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
Not really. Those jobs are going to be low paying and no capable of supporting an adult
Problem is not everyone is capable of attaining a degree and are considered unemployable by the companies who insist on higher education when a lot of those jobs which require a degree dont need one nor have a relevant degree so its just any old degree.
Such is life in Canada.
Problem is not everyone is capable of attaining a degree and are considered unemployable by the companies who insist on higher education when a lot of those jobs which require a degree dont need one nor have a relevant degree so its just any old degree.
Such is life in Canada.
Nov 25th 2015, 12:10 pm
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
Unless something changes in the employment world 20 years and change of being told I need a degree by employers kind of does that to a person and its only getting harder.
Nothing to indicate employers are going to change.
You need a talent or skill to be self employed or a lot of money. Only type of bussiness we could do is retail but its high risk and high start up and wouldnt even know what type to do that would make money.
Attitudes are shaped by what we experience in life and employers have made it loud and clear they want degrees or a certificate to get anything decent paying which is all I want. 35k or 40k would do it. Not looking for 6 figures.
Nothing to indicate employers are going to change.
You need a talent or skill to be self employed or a lot of money. Only type of bussiness we could do is retail but its high risk and high start up and wouldnt even know what type to do that would make money.
Attitudes are shaped by what we experience in life and employers have made it loud and clear they want degrees or a certificate to get anything decent paying which is all I want. 35k or 40k would do it. Not looking for 6 figures.
That's horribly negative. I've never had the opportunity to gain a degree, or a highly skilled certification in anything, but I'm far better off here than I was in the UK.
Work for yourself, then you're the master of your own destiny and not beholden to qualifications and petty minded employers.
Work for yourself, then you're the master of your own destiny and not beholden to qualifications and petty minded employers.
Nov 25th 2015, 12:29 pm
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
Not really. Those jobs are going to be low paying and no capable of supporting an adult
Problem is not everyone is capable of attaining a degree and are considered unemployable by the companies who insist on higher education when a lot of those jobs which require a degree dont need one nor have a relevant degree so its just any old degree.
Such is life in Canada.
Problem is not everyone is capable of attaining a degree and are considered unemployable by the companies who insist on higher education when a lot of those jobs which require a degree dont need one nor have a relevant degree so its just any old degree.
Such is life in Canada.
Talking yourself down keeps you down. Negativity in an individuals personalty also comes across in an interview, it is easy to spot and can be a deterrant to an employer.
Nov 25th 2015, 12:32 pm
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
I've earned close to six figures here as an employee, with no degree. It's far from impossible.
Nov 25th 2015, 12:40 pm
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
You do, an idea, a positive attitude, ingenuity, willing to take a chance, be highly motivated and a tad of good fortune thrown in.
As for a lot of money, many businesses have started on a shoestring or the founder has sought out investors who have the money.
The more you say you can't do it, the more likley you are going to be right about yourself!
As for a lot of money, many businesses have started on a shoestring or the founder has sought out investors who have the money.
The more you say you can't do it, the more likley you are going to be right about yourself!
Nov 25th 2015, 12:56 pm
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Nov 25th 2015, 1:13 pm
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Nov 25th 2015, 1:19 pm
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Re: 8 out of 10 jobs will require post secondary education?
I think a lot of you are missing the point. There is a difference between specific training and an educational experience in university, especially when you're young. Students are exposed to a variety of influences and situations, they experience and react to them in an environment that is relatively free from reactionary forces. And while I agree, there is an increasing tilt towards credentialism, the value of a degree should not be cynically disgarded.
And yes I'm fully aware that I'm poo pooing cynicism in this instance. 😊
And yes I'm fully aware that I'm poo pooing cynicism in this instance. 😊
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