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Old Apr 17th 2009, 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by AmyDavid
Are you sure? I thought they were quite comparable?
Property costs, and of course sales and income taxes are much higher in Vancouver, some goods are cheaper in BC as they dont need to be shipped inland, but in general Vancouver/ Victoria is regarded as the most expensive place to live in Canada.
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Just making up some math here - $60,000 cash, $130,000 income

You will need some of that $60,000 cash for a deposit on a house.

10% is standard. If you are bringing furniture, and can live with the appliances in the house you are purchasing that is good - however, you will need some money for car/s.

Let's say you have $50,000 for deposit = 500,000 house, with a mortgage of $490,000. That will cost approx $2,577/month for a 25 year mortgage, at 4% for 5 years.

Cars will cost let's say $500/month each - could be a lot more.
Car insurance - 200- 400/month
Property tax - 200ish/month
Utilities ???? 300???
Income tax 3000ish/month

There's about $4,000 left for other "stuff."

If you can keep out of debt - ie., stay away from the Brick LOL - you should have a decent lifestyle.

If you max out you mortgage and get the biggest house you can you will be up a shit creek without a paddle once interest rates climb and your mortgage term is over.
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Originally Posted by triumphguy
Just making up some math here - $60,000 cash, $130,000 income

You will need some of that $60,000 cash for a deposit on a house.

10% is standard. If you are bringing furniture, and can live with the appliances in the house you are purchasing that is good - however, you will need some money for car/s.

Let's say you have $50,000 for deposit = 500,000 house, with a mortgage of $490,000. That will cost approx $2,577/month for a 25 year mortgage, at 4% for 5 years.

Cars will cost let's say $500/month each - could be a lot more.
Car insurance - 200- 400/month
Property tax - 200ish/month
Utilities ???? 300???
Income tax 3000ish/month

There's about $4,000 left for other "stuff."

If you can keep out of debt - ie., stay away from the Brick LOL - you should have a decent lifestyle.

If you max out you mortgage and get the biggest house you can you will be up a shit creek without a paddle once interest rates climb and your mortgage term is over.
Bloody hell I would LOVE to have $4k left over a month...
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Originally Posted by Steve_P
Based on that information the only fly in the ointment would be the size of your mortgage should you purchase a home.
Agree with Steve TOTALLY. ASSUMING your definition of modest is the same as mine.

Two of us live on between 1.5 and twice that (my income is variable) and we 'struggle'. But then I dont consider that we watch the pennies at all and we're paying off a mortgage (home equity loan) probably 3 times what we needed to have (ok for the location its twice).

I know Families\Couples that manage on 60\70k a year and live in 3 bed homes in 'nice' newer communities, drive less than economical vehicles and have the kids enrolled in sports and\or daycare year round.

So the short answer? With a reasonable mortgage 130k is a good living income in Calgary AT THE MOMENT.
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Default Re: $130k enough to live on in Calgary/Vancouver

Originally Posted by hollyanne
To live on:
Pay rent on a 3/4 bed house
Buy food
Buy clothes
Pay bills, car insurance, medical etc..

And to me (not everyone) a reasonable lifestyle would be:
eat out twice a month
1 holiday a year


as you can see we are used to a pretty modest lifestyle.
LOL after a couple of months in Calgary you wont be wanting to eat twice a month, there arent that many decent restaurants (unless you like to eat the same cuisine in different surroundings).
WHY rent?
four bed homes are getting scarcer (and ARE going to eat away at your income).
Clothes shopping? Similar to eating out choice here is NOTHING like the UK.
Holiday to where? Holidays from Calgary to anywhere that you would need to fly are extorionate.

Originally Posted by triumphguy
Just making up some math here - $60,000 cash, $130,000 income

You will need some of that $60,000 cash for a deposit on a house.

10% is standard. If you are bringing furniture, and can live with the appliances in the house you are purchasing that is good - however, you will need some money for car/s.

Let's say you have $50,000 for deposit = 500,000 house, with a mortgage of $490,000. That will cost approx $2,577/month for a 25 year mortgage, at 4% for 5 years.

Cars will cost let's say $500/month each - could be a lot more.
Car insurance - 200- 400/month
Property tax - 200ish/month
Utilities ???? 300???
Income tax 3000ish/month

There's about $4,000 left for other "stuff."

If you can keep out of debt - ie., stay away from the Brick LOL - you should have a decent lifestyle.

If you max out you mortgage and get the biggest house you can you will be up a shit creek without a paddle once interest rates climb and your mortgage term is over.
You're having a giraffe arent you?

I can currently get you (well a contact can) 2.75% over five years or 2.5% on a variable.

And my condo insurance plus my gas guzzler plus a brand new run around is only costing me $168 per month.
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I can get a fixed for 2.8%, but you can't guarantee that any particular person can get it.
Condo inusrance, gas guzzler and new car $168 total? See she won't starve!!!
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Default Re: $130k enough to live on in Calgary/Vancouver

[QUOTE=Butch Cassidy;7488328]LOL after a couple of months in Calgary you wont be wanting to eat twice a month, there arent that many decent restaurants (unless you like to eat the same cuisine in different surroundings).
WHY rent?
four bed homes are getting scarcer (and ARE going to eat away at your income).
Clothes shopping? Similar to eating out choice here is NOTHING like the UK.
Holiday to where? Holidays from Calgary to anywhere that you would need to fly are extorionate.



Ok well takeaway then, we want to rent for a while then buy to make sure we are going to stay and we have been offered flights home once a year as part of the package.
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Originally Posted by triumphguy
I can get a fixed for 2.8%, but you can't guarantee that any particular person can get it.
ok fair point
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Condo inusrance, gas guzzler and new car $168 total? See she won't starve!!!
Exactly. (oh forgot to mention last years accident is accounted for in that insurance cost. I also enquired about adding a corvette and that only pushed it to 197)
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Ok well takeaway then, we want to rent for a while then buy to make sure we are going to stay and we have been offered flights home once a year as part of the package.
Seriously (and I realise there WILL be disenters) buying now is a better way to go than renting (assuming you give the whole idea 18 months as a decent try out period) at least in Calgary.
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$130,000 in Vancouver will buy you a similar lifestyle to GBP75,000 - GBP80,000 in the UK. Yes, it could be a struggle, but for most people it is a very good income.
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Default Re: $130k enough to live on in Calgary/Vancouver

Originally Posted by iaink
I cant believe anyone would argue otherwise and that this thread is still going...
The reason why this thread is still going (like many others of the same type) is that the question has too many variables, so posters are resorting to guessing what house, car etc. the OP will buy and what the wide range of monthly outgoings could be... It is a classic 'how long is a piece of string' question.

The amount quoted is also way above the poverty line for the country, so to doubt that you will not be able it live on it is a little strange.
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The reason why this thread is still going (like many others of the same type) is that the question has too many variables, so posters are resorting to guessing what house, car etc. the OP will buy and what the wide range of monthly outgoings could be... It is a classic 'how long is a piece of string' question.

The amount quoted is also way above the poverty line for the country, so to doubt that you will not be able it live on it is a little strange.
If they were asking about 80 or 90k I would maybe get it, decent salaries, but not enough to live without thought for the variables, but at $130k, lifestyle choices become immaterial, it is flat out a good salary and a good life can be led on it regardless.

Two questions were asked, is it a good salary, and how much tax would it attract. Both were answered succinctly by post four, and yet still, here we are

Lets put it this way, If you cant make ends meet on $130k a year you really need to find yourself a new crack dealer..cos you must have a crack habit, and the dealer you have must be overcharging you!

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The amount quoted is also way above the poverty line for the country, so to doubt that you will not be able it live on it is a little strange.
except that the poverty line is for the 'average' household.

130k for a single person WOO HOO
130k for a family of 10 with an asthmatic, a diabetic and three kids with crohns? STRUGGLE CITY DUDE.
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Originally Posted by ann m
Most people on here would say that is more than enough - it's a very good wage certainly, and probably double the average salary.

However, that means nothing really until we know your tastes !!

Do you have kids?
Do you need two cars?
Are you bringing some cash with you?
What size mortgage do you anticipate?
Do you want to ski, or buy boats or ski-doos ?
Do you need to pay towards university anytime soon?
Do you need a modest home or a mansion?
Are you looking to stay here long-term, and start considering pensions and educations savings plans - or are you just staying for a couple of years?

Lots of variables
Thats double the average HOUSEHOLD income in much of Canada.
If you cant live on that there must be something wrong with you.
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I sometimes think these "Is (insert rather large amount in CAD) enough to live on" posts are a little bit show offy...
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