OriginalSunshine

Yes, and yes (get a will written)

ChrisC1955

Well...
When we’ve taken the road, I’ll come back and say how it went. 😁

sayang

However, all you need to do is say you are muslim. Sure in Malaysia they make you go to classes & stuff, but if you rock up to the High Commission in London and write down you are muslim on the forms, that's good enough. I converted to marry my wife (in Indonesia) and never got questioned about my sincerity because all knew it was a legal formality - helped that the in-laws were fine with it - said the shahada in front of them. Heck - theres a term for it in Indonesia "Muslim KTP" (Muslim on your ID card)

My wife has actually changed to being buddhist when she went through the faith-reflecting stage, so there's no point guessing what may happen in the future. Technically I guess she is an apostate and should be killed, but unless you plan to live in certain parts of Syria, that is not going to be a problem

My view - might as well be an atheist muslim as an atheist anything else.

ChrisC1955

Thank you, sayang. We have done some research and we believe that we have come up with a practical - and legal in Malaysia - answer. I’ll explain later - when it has worked!
I full concur with your attitude toward religious objections! 😁😁

columbine

Not sure how effective a Will works for a marriage between a Muslim and a Non-Muslim.
No inheritance between a Muslim husband and his non-Muslim wife - Islam web - English

ChrisC1955

Hi sayang. Can I clarify if your experience is with Indonesia or Malaysia? When you refer to the High Commission in London and "Forms", which HC and forms do you mean?
Thanks

si196426

Hi Chris
Can you let me know what route you are taking as I am in the same boat. My wife is from Sarawak, she moved over here on a 30 month visa and we married here in England.
We are looking at moving back over there late next year or early 2020. We tried to register our marriage over in her home town but they said we couldn't due to my wife having a muslin name, as she is a convert due to her 1st marriage. I have been searching the internet and asking questions but can't seem to get a clear answer. I am looking at going down the MM2H as a single person, any advise or help would be grateful.

Thanks Simon.

ChrisC1955

Hi Simon, can you send a personal message.

sayang

My experience is with Indonesia. My assumption is that you will need to register the marriage with the Malaysian HC, similar to the way we needed to register our Indonesian marriage with the UK embassy in Jakarta.

Yes, at some point you will probably need to say you are muslim to keep everyone happy.

sayang

Only an issue if someone decides to contest - or just have everything in joint names.

My FIL is obviously muslim, and due to interfamily dynamics any will was going to get challenged, probably on basis that males are meant to inherit 2/3 and females 1/3 under islamic law. What he did was give everything valuable away as a gift while still alive. Sure, it meant angry sons (but they were anyway...) but there was no legal leg for them to stand on when he did die

ChrisC1955

Thank you sayang.

scot47

The easy road is to convert to islam. lots of people have done it and become nominal Muslims. "Turning Turk" is not difficult. I met many who had done this in the Middle East. I assume that in Malaysia or Indonesia it is easier.

RedApe

Then you have two individuals who don't really want to be Muslim, both because of marriage laws. And if the change the laws so that the wife can return to her prior faith, then you'd complicate things because her CURRENT husband was Muslim ;-)

I'd wait off until next year at least before conversion...maybe she'll be able to return to Christianity. Then you'll have to worry about whether she's a Catholic and you are a Protestant

ChrisC1955

Thanks.

aar2

Hi ChrisC1955, have you followed through with your plan? I am a M'sian (born muslim) woman married to a european abroad since 2015 and we are always a bit tense about the situation in malaysia since we did a civil marriage abroad. Just curious what you figured out and if it could apply to us. Thanks.