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bakedbean Nov 12th 2011 7:58 am

Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
This should really be Strider's thread (thanks for the idea :thumbup:) Which areas do you consider unspoilt and worth a visit?

I like Taiping Lake Gardens. I think they're superb.

Strider24 Nov 15th 2011 10:32 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
It would take a book to describe all the relatively unspoilt areas in the country. For a start you could say a large part of Sarawak is still lovely in spite of logging. Happily trees regrow and reasonably quickly. Taking local buses from Miri to Kuching with plenty of stop overs in towns along the way and side trip to Niah Caves is well a backpack week or two. Really can almost say the same about Sabah although many towns are quite sophisticated. Again local buses the way to go and see things. Part of the beauty is the local people throughout East Malaysia who all have hearts as big as the the mountain of the Chinese widows (Kinabalu)

The Peninsular has the east coast. Actually that's a bad description as really its east of the mountain range which is seriously big. The caves, waterfalls, lakes including the monster Kinyir and lovely Temenggor, Taman Negara, old mining towns like Sungai Lembing, elephant sanctuaries north side Kenyir and excellent one near Lancang. A trip from say from KL via Raub, Kuala Lipis, Gua Musang to Kota Bharu or cut across to Terengganu with its traditional boat building and spectacular mosques. Then the coast itself is mostly still in good order and the islands lovely.

We have only scratched the surface and want to see so much more, get off the highways and slow the pace down.:thumbsup:

dreadsoc Nov 15th 2011 10:40 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
I appreciate the advice re buses, but is it feasible to hire a car and drive around these areas?
If so, what sort of costs would you be looking at for hiring a car for say one month?
Also how safe would it be for a single female to drive around Malaysia?

Dread - x

bakedbean Nov 15th 2011 12:00 pm

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
You can sure hire a car from Penang. If you google labelle Penang it will give you some idea. I think from RM1000 per month. Don't expect a gleaming new car tho. Petrol is very cheap however.

I would have thought it is safe enough for a single woman. Just take normal precautions. Some friends did the east coast last year and said it was gorgeous but 'dry' in a few places. Maybe pack a few beers in the car ;-)

Strider what do you reckon about traveling on own?

Strider24 Nov 15th 2011 12:50 pm

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
No such thing as 100% safe, but Malaysia is safer than most places I have been, and I include UK, USA, Oz etc. Car hire not so cheap, but doable. As you say fuel is cheap and if you don't mind 2/3 star hotels then they are cheap enough. In country towns usually under RM100 a day. I have been staying in a real Chinese hotel in Seremban for RM40 a day, but dont advise that unless you are used to it. Don't knock public transport as it cheap and reliable. Malaysia is famous for its long distance buses which can be very comfortable. I once did a circuit of the Peninsular for under RM150 using long distance buses.:blink:

ex reg Nov 15th 2011 12:59 pm

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
We hired a car from la Belle about 6 years ago.
A French guy delivered it and upgraded us to a better car for no cost.
Of course we continued hiring from them for a few more years but never saw the French guy again and the cars are now a bit old and tired.
We now use a rental company beginning with 'K' can't remember the name but offices along Jln Ferringhee.

We'd say a single woman traveling around Malaysia on her own would have to be very careful, can be done of course but needs a lot of care and thought of exactly where you go and at what time of day or night.

dreadsoc Nov 15th 2011 10:18 pm

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
Thanks for your advice folks.

Malaysia is definitely shaping as as somewhere I shall be visiting at some point.

Dread - x

bakedbean Nov 16th 2011 3:12 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 

Originally Posted by ex reg (Post 9733980)
We hired a car from la Belle about 6 years ago.
A French guy delivered it and upgraded us to a better car for no cost.

Before we moved to Penang and had numerous visits, we used Labelle. Guy called Joe Tan is a real nice guy. Used to meet us at Penang airport with the car. We'd pay him cash and got all the paperwork. Then just said leave the car at the airport with keys in the boot when we fly back out. Very trusting. We see him around occasionally.

Agreed that the cars are not exactly tip-top :D but if Dread is comparing with Goa then she might not get too much of a shock.

bakedbean Nov 16th 2011 3:14 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
Strider or anyone else, how long would it take to drive from Penang island to Lake Temenggor? Do you think that's a day trip? It doesn't look so far on the map but are you going up and around mountains?

Strider24 Nov 16th 2011 3:34 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
I think it was about 2 hours to the lake. Its very fast out on the Kulim expressway and well signposted on to Gerik. The turnoff to the lake is just before you get into Gerik and I think the signpost says Kota Bharu. It does get hilly, but good road, The last 50km to the lake has a few turns.

Just across the first bridge (you actually go onto an island in the lake) there is a nice eating verandah attached to a resort. Just before the second bridge, there is a side road on the left that takes you to waters edge.

The lake is long...about 75km and narrow with many islands. There are a few eco resorts around and by boat you soon get away from any development.:blink:

Strider24 Nov 16th 2011 4:05 am

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While on unspoilt areas and Temenggor, there is a group of us currently building a 30ft houseboat. First unit will be for the Dinding River at Lumut and the second bigger 40ft one is planned for Lake Temenggor. :thumbsup:

bakedbean Nov 16th 2011 8:40 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
Strider, you never cease to amaze me :goodpost:

ajw Nov 16th 2011 9:22 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
Thanks for the travel ideas. Its great to hear of some places which are off the main tourist trails. I like the idea of getting to places by car. saves a lot of trouble if we dont have to drag two small children onto planes. And we can carry all our crap with us :-)

dreadsoc Nov 16th 2011 10:25 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 

Originally Posted by bakedbean (Post 9735628)
Before we moved to Penang and had numerous visits, we used Labelle. Guy called Joe Tan is a real nice guy. Used to meet us at Penang airport with the car. We'd pay him cash and got all the paperwork. Then just said leave the car at the airport with keys in the boot when we fly back out. Very trusting. We see him around occasionally.

Agreed that the cars are not exactly tip-top :D but if Dread is comparing with Goa then she might not get too much of a shock.

In Goa if you hire a car - you get a donkey with 4 wheels attached to it :D
(or at least it feels like a donkey as it kicks about 10 times every time you try and raise the clutch !!)

Dread - x

bakedbean Nov 17th 2011 7:15 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
Sounds like the Penang cars might be a tad better than Goa then.

You'll be pushed to find a manual car though. First time we hired, we asked for manual, but still got automatic. Around south-east Asia, automatic is popular.

ajw Nov 17th 2011 7:19 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
Would never willingly go with a manual, but often end up with one because they are the cheaper option. Autos are also king in Aus and US also.

bakedbean Nov 17th 2011 7:22 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
I've got used to automatic now and wouldn't have anything else... laziness I suppose.

ajw Nov 17th 2011 7:27 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
Me too. One less thing to think about which is a good thing considering every thing else going on on the roads!!

ex reg Nov 17th 2011 8:12 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 

Originally Posted by bakedbean (Post 9737912)
I've got used to automatic now and wouldn't have anything else... laziness I suppose.

I use an automatic as well.
But here it's because of the traffic jams and the continual stop/go.

dreadsoc Nov 17th 2011 2:36 pm

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
I've never driven an automatic in my life

When I come visit Malaysia I'd best get som lessons and learn hadn't I?

Dread - x

bakedbean Nov 18th 2011 2:24 am

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Dread, it is easy peasy. You won't need lessons. You just stick the gear lever in "Drive" and off you go. That's it. When you stop, put gear lever in "Neutral" or "Park". To reverse, stick it in "Reverse". End of story :sunglasses:

ex reg Nov 18th 2011 7:56 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 

Originally Posted by bakedbean (Post 9739717)
Dread, it is easy peasy. You won't need lessons. You just stick the gear lever in "Drive" and off you go. That's it. When you stop, put gear lever in "Neutral" or "Park". To reverse, stick it in "Reverse". End of story :sunglasses:

:DI'd fail you on that:D

But 'I'm a man' as Frank Spencer used to say.

bakedbean Nov 18th 2011 8:16 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 

Originally Posted by ex reg (Post 9740007)
:DI'd fail you on that:D

.

Why?

ex reg Nov 18th 2011 8:50 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 

Originally Posted by bakedbean (Post 9740036)
Why?

No mention of a hand brake.
No mention of the possibility of the car moving forward when stopped in traffic and the car still in D, unless you use the brake pedal.
Do you still use mirrors when driving an auto?

And as I said, I'm a man, and no woman is gonna pass first time, whatever.

My missus is prolly a better driver than me though.:(

bakedbean Nov 18th 2011 8:53 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
Aiyoh... I was only giving the differences to Dread. I am sure she is an accomplished driver :) And if you can drive in Goa, I imagine you are ready for anywhere.

dreadsoc Nov 18th 2011 9:49 pm

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 

Originally Posted by ex reg (Post 9740085)
No mention of a hand brake.
No mention of the possibility of the car moving forward when stopped in traffic and the car still in D, unless you use the brake pedal.
Do you still use mirrors when driving an auto?

And as I said, I'm a man, and no woman is gonna pass first time, whatever.

My missus is prolly a better driver than me though.:(

I say ! you're a cheeky one aren't ya? ;):D

I think I can manage - advanced driver in the UK - I survived driving through the middle of Jerusalem, in Rio, and driving in India - I reckon that means I can drive anywhere.

Dread - x

MargaretM Jan 8th 2012 8:12 pm

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 

Originally Posted by Strider24 (Post 9733968)
No such thing as 100% safe, but Malaysia is safer than most places I have been, and I include UK, USA, Oz etc. Car hire not so cheap, but doable. As you say fuel is cheap and if you don't mind 2/3 star hotels then they are cheap enough. In country towns usually under RM100 a day. I have been staying in a real Chinese hotel in Seremban for RM40 a day, but dont advise that unless you are used to it. Don't knock public transport as it cheap and reliable. Malaysia is famous for its long distance buses which can be very comfortable. I once did a circuit of the Peninsular for under RM150 using long distance buses.:blink:

Hi
Just went into Tink's Travels and wanted to say thank you. It has helped me to get some bearings and insight into how beautiful Malaysia can be. We are going to be moving over within the next 5 years and holidaying in between to get an idea of where to live. Your description of Sabah was really useful.
Thanks.

Atilla Jan 9th 2012 1:31 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 
I have to say that with the continual stop/go here I'd never consider a manual transmission, esp as the type of cars most people drive here don't really benefit much from the slightly extra performance a well-driven manual can sometimes deliver.

Strider24 Jan 9th 2012 5:49 am

Re: Unspoilt areas in Malaysia
 

Originally Posted by MargaretM (Post 9828954)
Hi
Just went into Tink's Travels and wanted to say thank you. It has helped me to get some bearings and insight into how beautiful Malaysia can be. We are going to be moving over within the next 5 years and holidaying in between to get an idea of where to live. Your description of Sabah was really useful.
Thanks.

Thanks MargaretM. You make me feel guilty that I haven't updated much of late. Once I get back from the Royal Langkawi Yacht race series I really must do an update....and if you are into sailing, then Langkawi is very hard to beat. Mind the east coast of West Malaysia is a sailors paradise as well.:thumbsup:


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