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Epicurious Feb 5th 2020 3:58 am

Re: Suspension Of Conversion of Foreign Driving Licence to Malaysia Driving Lice
 
There's potentially a big drawback to this. Your new/exchanged Malaysian license will be Probationary (P), regardless of your previous driving experience. You are not allowed to obtain an IDP in Malaysia with a P license. So, if you've surrendered your home license because you no longer live in that country (as many countries require), then your Malaysian P license may not be legal there because you have no IDP. Hence, you may not be able to drive legally in many countries until you get past the two year probation.

Also, if you do eventually get an IDP from Malaysia, "You need to surrender your domestic license to JPJ as you are not allowed to hold 2 types of licenses at a time." International Driving Permit (IDP) - JPJ Website

IanBlakeley Feb 5th 2020 4:17 am

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Originally Posted by Epicurious (Post 12801890)
Also, if you do eventually get an IDP from Malaysia, "You need to surrender your domestic license to JPJ as you are not allowed to hold 2 types of licenses at a time." International Driving Permit (IDP) - JPJ Website

A wise person would be sure to obtain a 2nd licence from home country before going through this by reporting their existing missing.

Epicurious Feb 5th 2020 5:06 am

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Originally Posted by IanBlakeley (Post 12801893)
A wise person would be sure to obtain a 2nd licence from home country before going through this by reporting their existing missing.

I understand the JPJ sentence I quoted as referring to the Malaysian domestic license. You can hold one of those, or an IDP issued by JPJ, but not both. That goes against many countries' advice that a foreign license is legal as long as it is accompanied by an IDP.

But I guess you meant that you should hold onto a copy of your home license. That could be all very well, until you have a big accident and insurance companies start digging. I understand that as soon as a D737 is issued, your DVLA license is automatically revoked, but I'm willing to be corrected on that.

IanBlakeley Feb 5th 2020 7:06 am

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Originally Posted by Epicurious (Post 12801919)
But I guess you meant that you should hold onto a copy of your home license. That could be all very well, until you have a big accident and insurance companies start digging. I understand that as soon as a D737 is issued, your DVLA license is automatically revoked, but I'm willing to be corrected on that.

Exactly, hang on to home one, it is not something I'd let worry me in the slightest, they can't apart from a court order or medical reasons revoke the licence qualification, if you fail to renew the photo every 10 years the licence is valid, the actual offence is failing to renew.

Teh Tarik Feb 18th 2020 12:56 am

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Originally Posted by IanBlakeley (Post 12801935)
Exactly, hang on to home one, it is not something I'd let worry me in the slightest, they can't apart from a court order or medical reasons revoke the licence qualification, if you fail to renew the photo every 10 years the licence is valid, the actual offence is failing to renew.

As part of the conversion process does JPJ retain (or try to retain) your UK driving license?

Epicurious Feb 18th 2020 1:46 am

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Originally Posted by Teh Tarik (Post 12808101)
As part of the conversion process does JPJ retain (or try to retain) your UK driving license?

No, if they mistakenly try to do that you should resist. I believe the license is ultimately the property of the UK Govt. JPJ want to see the original to compare it with the copies you should take along with you.

Teh Tarik Feb 18th 2020 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by Epicurious (Post 12808110)
No, if they mistakenly try to do that you should resist. I believe the license is ultimately the property of the UK Govt. JPJ want to see the original to compare it with the copies you should take along with you.

Thank you Epicurious and all those who provided helpful information here. It is really important to us to keep our UK licenses because we are in driving in UK and Europe for several months of the year (mainly in Summer). However, I am a little worried that this process will somehow invalidate our UK licenses despite being able to keep them.

Epicurious Feb 18th 2020 3:31 am

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Originally Posted by Teh Tarik (Post 12808123)
Thank you Epicurious and all those who provided helpful information here. It is really important to us to keep our UK licenses because we are in driving in UK and Europe for several months of the year (mainly in Summer). However, I am a little worried that this process will somehow invalidate our UK licenses despite being able to keep them.

I think it would be prudent to phone the DVLA and check whether or not the issue of a D737 by them automatically invalidates your UK license. If you do so, please report back.

Bikbergen Feb 18th 2020 10:27 am

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Here's a tip for those who are dual national, EU/UK like me.
I hold an UK DVLA licence which is currently recognised in the EU.
But this will no longer be the case from next year when the transition period has ended.
I will then be able to apply for my EU drivers licence (in the Netherlands) next to my UK drivers licence.
I will be converting my UK licence to a Malaysian drivers licence next year when we purchase our car in Penang.

Teh Tarik Feb 18th 2020 1:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Epicurious (Post 12808125)
I think it would be prudent to phone the DVLA and check whether or not the issue of a D737 by them automatically invalidates your UK license. If you do so, please report back.


I called DVLA who informed me that the issuance of the D737 form does not in itself invalidate your UK license. Apparently, the UK license is only made invalid if there is an official exchange of licenses. Since the UK and Malaysia do not have an official exchange programme the issuance of a Malaysian license would not in itself invalidate your UK license.

It takes at least 2 weeks to arrive in Malaysia apparently.

This gives me sufficient confidence to get the ball rolling here in Malaysia. If anyone else hears something different from DVLA kindly let us know.




Epicurious Feb 19th 2020 12:05 am

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Originally Posted by Teh Tarik (Post 12808360)
I called DVLA who informed me that the issuance of the D737 form does not in itself invalidate your UK license. Apparently, the UK license is only made invalid if there is an official exchange of licenses. Since the UK and Malaysia do not have an official exchange programme the issuance of a Malaysian license would not in itself invalidate your UK license.

It takes at least 2 weeks to arrive in Malaysia apparently.

This gives me sufficient confidence to get the ball rolling here in Malaysia. If anyone else hears something different from DVLA kindly let us know.

That's useful information, thanks. Apologies if my earlier speculation about the D737 disturbed anyone.

Epicurious Mar 4th 2020 6:04 am

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I now have a Malaysian category D probationary driving license, about five weeks after I applied. It could have been three weeks, but I wasn't checking the JPJ website correctly, and I was waiting for a letter from them (UK citizens won't get one).

If there is sufficient interest, I'll put the effort into writing a guide to the process (Scuba Tyke promised one, but he seems to have gone AWOL) in a separate thread.

One thing I will say right now: After your application has been approved by Putrajaya, DO NOT repeat my mistake and go there again to pick up the license because they will not issue it, not even at the small JPJ office next door to the JPJ HQ. You have to go to a State-level JPJ office. For KL that is in Setapak, and there's another in Shah Alam.

SushiFan Mar 4th 2020 7:18 am

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Originally Posted by Epicurious (Post 12815796)
I now have a Malaysian category D probationary driving license,

How long is this licence valid for?
Is this the kind of licence where you have to put a P-sticker on your car's rear window?

Epicurious Mar 4th 2020 7:58 am

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Originally Posted by SushiFan (Post 12815810)
How long is this licence valid for?
Is this the kind of licence where you have to put a P-sticker on your car's rear window?

Two years. PDL - it's the same license that a driver who has just passed their test gets. It's irrelevant that you've been driving for 40 years all over Europe. Malaysia's driving conditions are extra difficult. :unsure: And you can't drive in Singapore (and probably most other countries) with it.

P sticker, yes. The indignity!

Teh Tarik Mar 4th 2020 8:36 am

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Originally Posted by Epicurious (Post 12815822)
Two years. PDL - it's the same license that a driver who has just passed their test gets. It's irrelevant that you've been driving for 40 years all over Europe. Malaysia's driving conditions are extra difficult. :unsure: And you can't drive in Singapore (and probably most other countries) with it.

P sticker, yes. The indignity!

I thought they were meant to issue a full Malaysian license and not a probationary one (P)? Presumably you still retain your UK license so driving in Singapore or other countries should not be a problem. If you are inclined to write a short guide I, and many others, would be very grateful. Many thanks.


Epicurious Mar 4th 2020 9:25 am

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Originally Posted by Teh Tarik (Post 12815837)
I thought they were meant to issue a full Malaysian license and not a probationary one (P)? Presumably you still retain your UK license so driving in Singapore or other countries should not be a problem. If you are inclined to write a short guide I, and many others, would be very grateful. Many thanks.

Policy changed after the suspension. Previously we would have got a CDL, now it's a PDL.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malay...morrow/1805648

Road Transport Department (JPJ) director-general Datuk Seri Shaharuddin Khalid said the conversion would be granted to individuals who have valid driving licence from their country of origins.“The licence must be a full licence and does not include learning licence, temporary licence or probationary licence,” he told a press conference here today.

Shaharuddin said the conversion application process could only be done at the JPJ headquarters and state-level JPJ offices.

He said their original driving licence would be converted to a Malaysian probationary licence (P licence) and they must comply with the same rules and regulations observed by Malaysians with P-licences.

“This is to ensure that these individuals have the competence to drive and to educate them to comply with all traffic rules in the country,” he said.
And regarding using your UK licence a year (or more) after you have ceased residing in the UK, it's a very grey area. This thread may be enlightening (it's about UK license renewal, but many of the points raised overlap with this issue):
https://britishexpats.com/forum/midd...icence-903630/

I'm loath to take the chance that my insurance company could find a way to get out of paying in the event of an accident outside of Malaysia.

Teh Tarik Mar 4th 2020 10:23 am

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Originally Posted by Epicurious (Post 12815851)
Policy changed after the suspension. Previously we would have got a CDL, now it's a PDL.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malay...morrow/1805648


And regarding using your UK licence a year (or more) after you have ceased residing in the UK, it's a very grey area. This thread may be enlightening (it's about UK license renewal, but many of the points raised overlap with this issue):
https://britishexpats.com/forum/midd...icence-903630/

I'm loath to take the chance that my insurance company could find a way to get out of paying in the event of an accident outside of Malaysia.

Very interesting.

I looked at the thread you pasted here and I think there is a bit of confusion in that thread as to whether:

i) the UK driving license become invalid when you move abroad
or
ii) your UK insurance companies will cover you if you move abroad.

I know the answer to the second question. Most standard UK insurance companies will not cover you if you move abroad. You need to be ordinarily resident in the UK to get covered by the likes of Pru, Aviva etc. If you put a UK residential address down and you have an accident you are not covered. In effect you paid an insurance premium for nothing. However, you can buy specialist insurance (e.g. www.dayinsure.com or www.hertsinsurance.com) and they will accept your foreign residential address and also your UK driving license. These insurance contracts are more expensive and for shorter periods of time but at least you know that you are properly covered. They even cover you if you travel to Europe from the UK (N.B. I know since I have spoken extensively with them about this but you need to tell them in advance which countries you are going to). The key to getting properly covered is to be forthright and honest with the insurer from the start.

Now, as to the first question I have not seen or read anything that suggests your UK license becomes invalid when you move abroad. Does anyone have a link or confirmation of this?




Epicurious Mar 4th 2020 10:39 am

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Originally Posted by Teh Tarik (Post 12815877)
Now, as to the first question I have not seen or read anything that suggests your UK license becomes invalid when you move abroad. Does anyone have a link or confirmation of this?

Thanks for the info. I agree it's safest to be upfront with any insurance company.
Back to the license validity question: https://www.gov.uk/driving-abroad/dr...ou-move-abroad


Driving if you move abroad
You need to get a local driving licence if you move abroad. Check with the driving licence authorities there to find out how to apply.

In some countries you can exchange your UK licence without taking another driving test.
Add to that the fact that you have to declare that you are a UK resident when renewing a license, then I think the law is becoming fairly clear.

Teh Tarik Mar 4th 2020 11:23 am

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Thanks Epicurious. More to mull over.

One more question I had for you: How long did the D737 form take to arrive in Malaysia from UK after you ordered it from DVLA?

Epicurious Mar 4th 2020 11:45 am

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Originally Posted by Teh Tarik (Post 12815890)
Thanks Epicurious. More to mull over.

One more question I had for you: How long did the D737 form take to arrive in Malaysia from UK after you ordered it from DVLA?

I still have the paper counterpart and they accepted that, so I didn't order a D737. YMMV. I think someone else waited a couple of weeks for airmail.

SushiFan Mar 5th 2020 7:11 am

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Originally Posted by Epicurious (Post 12815822)
Two years. PDL - it's the same license that a driver who has just passed their test gets. It's irrelevant that you've been driving for 40 years all over Europe. Malaysia's driving conditions are extra difficult. :unsure: And you can't drive in Singapore (and probably most other countries) with it.

P sticker, yes. The indignity!

Thank you for answering my questions. I was able to get a Malaysian licence by showing the licence from my home country. That was 4 years ago. They gave me a full licence, valid for 5 years.
Luckily you have to show that sticker for only 2 years. Time flies when you're having fun.

Gunnar45 Mar 6th 2020 9:40 am

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As per the MY Road Transport Act of 1987, one is entitled to drive in MY with a license from a country listed in Section 28 of the act. (Appr 155 countries)
So if one has a valid license from any of these countries, there are no Probation restrictions.

So, a strategy to avoid the embarrassing 2 years MY PDL could be to apply for it latest two years before the original country license expires :unsure:

Epicurious Mar 6th 2020 10:30 am

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Originally Posted by Gunnar45 (Post 12816886)
As per the MY Road Transport Act of 1987, one is entitled to drive in MY with a license from a country listed in Section 28 of the act. (Appr 155 countries)
So if one has a valid license from any of these countries, there are no Probation restrictions.

So, a strategy to avoid the embarrassing 2 years MY PDL could be to apply for it latest two years before the original country license expires :unsure:

As stated before, if you are no longer a permanent resident of your home country, your license may be deemed invalid. I guess you could argue the case with the insurance company, but I'm not willing to take the chance.

As for Section 28, have a read of this: https://pickofpenang.blogspot.com/20...g-licence.html

Yes I've seen the above legislation and it has been discussed at length on a number of forums. There has also been much discussion around a more recent Road Traffic Act that repealed it. As yet I have been unable to find the detail.

I have not mentioned the above Act mainly because of the lack of clarity around it AND the fact that when I asked the JPJ officer in charge of the foreign licence section at Butterworth he specifically said you can drive on a UK (or other acceptable foreign) licence for 3 months only. There has also been much discussion, and as yet no 100% conclusion, around the acceptability of a UK licence by Malaysian insurance companies in the event of a serious / fatal accident.

There comes a point though where researching all this and being bothered about it just takes too much time, life's too short. So, in light of the uncertainty and the ease with which a Malaysian licence can be obtained I chose to go down that route and avoid ANY risk. It's a call people will need to make for themselves. Down to the individual.

Gunnar45 Mar 7th 2020 7:45 am

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Epicurious quote:
"As stated before, if you are no longer a permanent resident of your home country, your license may be deemed invalid. I guess you could argue the case with the insurance company, but I'm not willing to take the chance."

As I said,one does of course need to have a valid license from a country in the list!
I am not familiar with UK rules, do UK driver licenses become invalid when
the license holder is no longer a permanent resident there?
Or are they valid until their expiry date and then not renewable?




Bikbergen Mar 7th 2020 8:52 am

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I have a related question to this.
My wife never obtained a drivers licence in the UK.
Has anyone ever taken driving lessons at a driving school in Malaysia?
Would it be easier for her to obtain a PDL licence in Malaysia than the UK?
I also see from Gunnar45's list that driver licences from Thailand are accepted in Malaysia, would this be an easier alternative?
Both of us are on the MM2H scheme.

Epicurious Mar 8th 2020 12:52 am

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Originally Posted by Gunnar45 (Post 12817293)
Epicurious quote:
As I said,one does of course need to have a valid license from a country in the list!
I am not familiar with UK rules, do UK driver licenses become invalid when
the license holder is no longer a permanent resident there?
Or are they valid until their expiry date and then not renewable?

In post #98 I gave a direct quote from the UK Govt website which would indicate yes, they do become invalid. Another official website states that it is compulsory for the license holder to update their permanent address if it changes, and the DVLA will not accept a foreign address. Anyone failing to do this may get away with it for many years, but if they have a really serious accident I wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

eCdD Mar 8th 2020 6:53 am

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Originally Posted by Bikbergen (Post 12817325)
Has anyone ever taken driving lessons at a driving school in Malaysia?

Many, many, many.


Originally Posted by Bikbergen (Post 12817325)
Would it be easier for her to obtain a PDL licence in Malaysia than the UK?

1 million times cheaper and 2 million times easier.

Teh Tarik Mar 11th 2020 6:13 am

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So, I have followed the very helpful advice of Epicurious (and others) on this forum and driven down to Putrajaya armed with all my documents and my paper counterpart to start the conversion process for my wife and myself. The staff were very helpful and it was not busy. For my wife, they took all her paperwork and told her that it will be ready in about 30 working days. For me, they said they could not accept my conversion because I already had a Malaysian motorcycle license (N.B. mid life crisis - don't ask) and so I have only one option but to go back to driving school and do the whole thing again to get my car license. :(

Anyway, I can confirm that they will accept your paper counterpart (if you still have one) instead of ordering form D737 from DVLA which still hasn't arrived for me here in Malaysia .

Epicurious Mar 11th 2020 7:19 am

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Originally Posted by Teh Tarik (Post 12818939)
So, I have followed the very helpful advice of Epicurious (and others) on this forum and driven down to Putrajaya armed with all my documents and my paper counterpart to start the conversion process for my wife and myself. The staff were very helpful and it was not busy. For my wife, they took all her paperwork and told her that it will be ready in about 30 working days. For me, they said they could not accept my conversion because I already had a Malaysian motorcycle license (N.B. mid life crisis - don't ask) and so I have only one option but to go back to driving school and do the whole thing again to get my car license. :(

Anyway, I can confirm that they will accept your paper counterpart (if you still have one) instead of ordering form D737 from DVLA which still hasn't arrived for me here in Malaysia .

Good news about the paper counterpart, bummer about having to take car lessons and a driving test purely because you already have a MY motorcycle licence. In my case they refused to give me an exchange motorcycle license (I have UK car and large bike), saying that they will only exchange a category D car license for foreigners. It's just so poorly thought through.

A tip for your wife: when checking the JPJ website for progress, append GBR to her passport number (assuming she's applied with a UK passport).

IanBlakeley Mar 11th 2020 7:31 am

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Originally Posted by Epicurious (Post 12818946)
In my case they refused to give me an exchange motorcycle license (I have UK car and large bike), saying that they will only exchange a category D car license for foreigners

That's rubbish, at the moment I don't think I LTSVP have a path to exchange although my wife as a returning Malaysian may have, however, I do use a bike here.

Epicurious Mar 11th 2020 7:42 am

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Originally Posted by IanBlakeley (Post 12818948)
That's rubbish, at the moment I don't think I LTSVP have a path to exchange although my wife as a returning Malaysian may have, however, I do use a bike here.

I did challenge the lady at the front desk at JPJ Putrajaya on this matter. She went inside the office and brought out her superior who confirmed that only car licenses can be exchanged/converted. Go and ask them yourself if you don't believe me.

IanBlakeley Mar 11th 2020 8:23 am

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Originally Posted by Epicurious (Post 12818951)
I did challenge the lady at the front desk at JPJ Putrajaya on this matter. She went inside the office and brought out her superior who confirmed that only car licenses can be exchanged/converted. Go and ask them yourself if you don't believe me.

Ah no I believe you, I've given up expecting officialdom to make sense anywhere

Teh Tarik Mar 11th 2020 10:22 am

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So, after 30 years of driving in UK and Europe, I have just signed up for my manual car driving lessons and test to be conducted over the next few weeks. I have the following joys to look forward to:

1) 6 hour mandatory theory course
2) theory test
3) 16 hours of mandatory practical driving lessons
4) practical test

Plus I am somewhat lighter on the bank balance. My wife has been very helpfully laughing at me all day and reminding me that I was a fool to take my motorcycle driving license in Malaysia.

IanBlakeley Mar 11th 2020 12:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Teh Tarik (Post 12818987)
Plus I am somewhat lighter on the bank balance. My wife has been very helpfully laughing at me all day and reminding me that I was a fool to take my motorcycle driving license in Malaysia.

How much of a PITA was it to take the motorcycle test here? I wonder if I can get the car licence swapped[1] If I can retake the bike test here.

Teh Tarik Mar 11th 2020 2:51 pm

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Originally Posted by IanBlakeley (Post 12819013)
How much of a PITA was it to take the motorcycle test here? I wonder if I can get the car licence swapped[1] If I can retake the bike test here.


I can’t sugarcoat it: it is a PITA. Especially the mandatory theory course where the instructor spent most of the time plugging his book. I noticed a young guy playing with his phone the whole day. I found out he was doing the Theory test past questions on an app. I followed his lead and passed no problem.

The practical motorcycle lessons were more interesting for me but I did not know how to ride a 500cc bike. You take the test on the same bikes you train on but I noticed the two bikes at the training centre behaved differently so I had to get time on each bike and do the course to remember how each behaved.

I noticed some guys who were clearly very good on the bikes and so had probably been riding for a long while without a license. They came, signed on, spent a bit of time on the bikes and then quietly disappeared - a less painful way to rack up the mandatory hours if you already know what you are doing.








Scuba Tyke Jun 16th 2020 8:31 am

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Today I have finally managed to collect our Malaysian driving licences from JPJ Seremban. Apart from the obvious delay caused by the MCO the whole process for me was held up by the fact that I didn't receive the UK DVLA document until my third attempt at getting one. It was delivered to a friend's UK address, eventually. Goodness knows what happened to the previous two that I am told were sent. Once I had all the documents together I handed them in to JPJ HQ Putrajaya, unfortunately just before the MCO started. This morning I was surprised to learn we would only be issued the 2 year PDL, instead of a full 5 year licence. I have now caught up with recent posts above and understand why. The whole process seems to have been described adequately in this forum, but if anyone has any lingering questions I will do my best to answer them.

ChrisC1955 Aug 10th 2020 11:30 am

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A very interesting thread. Lots of talk about MM2H paperwork but what about us on LTSVP? Are there restrictions?

Also if I understand correctly, even though I have a full motorcycle license qualification on my UK DVLA issued licence, I cannot get a MY motorcycle license. Surely that contravenes the International Agreements which only refer to "Vehicles" and not classes of vehicle.

Thanks to all contributors. What a surreal situation, coming from a country with 2.9 road deaths per 100000 to one with 23.6 per 100000 and we need to "learn" to drive! :lol:

IanBlakeley Sep 21st 2020 5:24 am

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I finally stirred myself into action and ordered the D737 from DVLA. Had to hang on the phone line around 3/4 of an hour but all fine and they were in my mail box when I got back from KL this week ~ 2weeks maybe less to get here. The form clearly states if you use it to obtain a foreign licence you UK one is invalid. Not sure how they'd know TBF. Mrs. B and I will trot over to the JPJ in Butterworth next week and see if we can start the process, pretty sure as a Malaysian with a foreign licence she can, LTSVP I am unsure and will update. can I confirm what we need is

1. original licence
2. d737
3. photo
4. Application form (I see 2 listed are both needed?)

Anything else?

Tks

Teh Tarik Sep 21st 2020 6:09 am

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For all the documents and photocopies check out post #78 above where epicurious gave a very helpful photo of all the docs required.

As for whether your UK license becomes invalid after getting a Malaysian license I do not believe that it will. When i spoke to DVLA about this back in January/February they said that UK and Malaysia do not have an official “exchange” programme and thus you are not actually “exchanging” one license for the other. Malaysia is actually just giving you a new license.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...06ef15db8.jpeg

Epicurious Sep 21st 2020 6:11 am

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Originally Posted by IanBlakeley (Post 12912480)
Anything else?
Tks

Suggest you re-read my posts #78 & 80.


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