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bakedbean Sep 28th 2009 9:30 am

Re: Starting a new life in Kuala Lumpur
 
Good informed posting Adventure. I too have friends in KL who have witnessed firsthand some of these crimes. Let's hope the PM and Home Minister can get on top of it.

You mentioned discrimation in Malaysia but are you aware that the Penang State Government is now Chinese Malaysian controlled (since 2008), majority of Chinese on Penang island, and has abolished this daft ruling of favouring ethnic Malays before all others?

MrMark May 31st 2010 10:50 pm

Re: Starting a new life in Kuala Lumpur
 

Originally Posted by TheDreamer (Post 7351012)
Oh dear in that case Malaysia sounds like hell to me :ohmy: I am not a beach guy - I get really panicy when I am away from the city buzz :huh: Even London wasn't buzzy enough for me :thumbdown: So it seems there's not many places in the world which may be suitable for those of us who would prefer to stay single and just take long long walks to relax and enjoy the surroundings :thumbdown:

Thank you to others for your valuable input :thumbup:

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Hey dreamer, I am like you but I still think Malaysia is a nice place to live I lived in it from 1996-1999 and then returned to Canada but now I am putting my house for sale and seriously thinking of moving to KL. Vancouver is the most beautiful city in the world but it's not buzzy enough. I want to hear people talking loud and cars passing by and shops everywhere all day and all night. I don't think KL is unsafe, I have seen it before yes it was 10 years ago but I don't think things would have changed for the worse. It was good then and I think it's better now.

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jonathanbkk Jun 22nd 2010 8:27 am

Re: Starting a new life in Kuala Lumpur
 

Originally Posted by TheHairyGoblet (Post 7216610)
First thing, this is my very first post, so please be gentle.

I am a 30 year old male and my partner is a 29 year old German girl. We are engaged to be married and will probably do so in Bali next year. My fiance is half Malaysian and we have a dream to live and run a guesthouse in Kuala Lumpur.

My girlfriend does not have a Malaysian passport as she was born in Germany. Now, I need as much information as possible about the possibility of starting our own business in KL.

If anybody could give me any information about getting VISA´s (please not the MM2H programme as that looks way too expensive).....can we actually get permits to live in Malaysia if we are not going to be working for a company. Effectively we will own our own company so we will be self employed.

I know that moving country is a big step, but we want to start a business in KL and begin a family out there so we would like to know the restrictions that the government will apply and basically whether or not we can do it.

My (soon to be) mother-in-law is from Kuching (she lives in Germany also), does this help us with getting VISA´s etc??!

Please excuse my ignorance, but the beginning of hopefully a new life in Malaysia.

Any information would be great as I cant find anything about owning your own company in KL online, it is all assuming you will work for a company out there.

Thanks in advance.

I now live in Thailand, and am thinking of moving to Malaysia under the MM2H Scheme. So I can't tell you much about Malaysia (yet) - but many countries in Asia have a similar policy to would-be immigrants like yourselves.
Thailand is 'The Land of Smiles' to those who have money in their pockets, and the MM2H Scheme is similar. To be welcome, you must be able to support yourselves! Foreigners own bars and guesthouses here in Thailand, but cannot get work permits - so their wifes run them. (Even talking to customers is considered 'working'!) The profit they make is minimal - forget trips back to Europe!
To get a proper work permit to start a business, you must bring in substantial capital and must then employ 5 Thais for every foreigner. In the guest house business, you will therefore be competing with family-run places with almost free labour! You will also need lots of permits, which are as much of a hassle in Malaysia as Thailand.

britishbull Jul 9th 2010 2:37 pm

Re: Starting a new life in Kuala Lumpur
 
I quite like KL and have walked for miles and miles in the heat, it definitely has the right kind of buzz. I did not feal threatened in any way, but that may just be ignorance on my part as have only done about a month in several separate visits. Being British I was pleasantly surprised at the reaction of the locals - a lot of them were supporting England in the World Cup, BTW. Be interesting to know what percentage of the muggings involve westerners as victims, as I have often found in other SEA countries that the potential hassle from the police keeps the criminals in check where tourists are concerned (Thailand now a notable exception).

No way Penang has the same kind of city buzz as KL and I did not find the locals all that pleasant, seemed to be quite a lot of seething resentment under the surface. I probably would not go out of my way to visit again, though KL is one possible location for future condo purchse. But I like big cities, anyway.

jonathanbkk Jul 9th 2010 3:35 pm

Re: Starting a new life in Kuala Lumpur
 

Originally Posted by britishbull (Post 8689234)
I quite like KL and have walked for miles and miles in the heat, it definitely has the right kind of buzz. I did not feal threatened in any way, but that may just be ignorance on my part as have only done about a month in several separate visits. Being British I was pleasantly surprised at the reaction of the locals - a lot of them were supporting England in the World Cup, BTW. Be interesting to know what percentage of the muggings involve westerners as victims, as I have often found in other SEA countries that the potential hassle from the police keeps the criminals in check where tourists are concerned (Thailand now a notable exception).

No way Penang has the same kind of city buzz as KL and I did not find the locals all that pleasant, seemed to be quite a lot of seething resentment under the surface. I probably would not go out of my way to visit again, though KL is one possible location for future condo purchse. But I like big cities, anyway.

I haven't heard of Westerners being targetted by muggers here in Thailand - tourists are rather staying away because, unlike the Thais, they know that the recent political troubles remain unresolved and could flare up again at any moment.
I too felt safe in KL, but read in my Lonely Planet of no-go areas. In Penang, my hotel receptionist advised me to stay in at night. But like any place in the world, it depends where you are.


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