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maxwellreid Feb 17th 2011 6:49 am

Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
I will be in Malaysia in mid March and I was looking to visit as many towns that might fit what I want. I am looking at somewhere I can walk out the front door and be in/close to the town centre. I like the mundane activities, ie I can enjoy walking through a small alley way market more than visiting a temple.
I can see this sort of Q has been asked. However, I do not want to be in the suburbs with families etc, Reading through the posts, I can see that Ipoh/Georgetown/johor Bahru/Kuching might be interesting. However, the small towns are also interesting, Mersing, Taiping. I have been to KL and Penang and Malacca and can see their attractions Any places that I might look at? I plan to visit Ipoh, Taiping, Mersing but any other recommendations would be appreciated. An extra bonus would be:
A handy swimming pool (public/private) would be nice
a reliable and fast internet connection.
reasonable access to an airport
ok sort of weather Nov-Feb (temperature and humidity not soaring)

Max

bakedbean Feb 17th 2011 9:31 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
Hi Maxwell,

I was going to suggest Penang but see you have already been here. A lot of people like Melaka too. I've only been living here 6 months so I'm a kinda Newbie myself and not visited everywhere.

Weatherwise... well Malaysia is hot and humid I guess but you do get used to it. November to February: avoid East Coast of the mainland as you'll get the North-East monsoon with heavy rains, but you probably already know that.

I'm sure some more knowledgeable folks will be along any moment.

columbine Feb 18th 2011 4:42 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
What about the mainland side of Penang and south border on Kedah or Perak, some really smallish towns like Bukit Mertajam, Kulim, Juru, Simpang Empat, Sungai Petani, Alor Sitar, Tapah...?
Even on the island of Penang there are little town that are bursting with activities eg AyerItam that has a big wet market, close to the Kek Lok Si and Ayer Itam Dam, lots of interesting nooks around; or South of the island around Batu Uban, Relau, areas.

stranded traveller Feb 19th 2011 2:37 pm

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
Come one guys,
let him have a new place to visit, instead Penang or Ipoh or Malacca,
I'm strongly suggest you to visit in East Coast..Pahang( Taman Negara) you would love it,with long boat...awesome!if you are nature type;)

then, from Taman Negara, you can heading to Cameron Highlands..if you love green ..fantastic...

also if you would like to relax somewhere around the beach..Terengganu is the best place..and you won't regret! compare than Penang or Malacca..the beach it's not nice at all...

if there any you needs, kindly PM me..I'm definetly will help as much I could mate!!:thumbsup:

and enjoying your stay...in Malaysia!

Fiza

bakedbean Feb 20th 2011 8:53 am

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Originally Posted by stranded traveller (Post 9187548)
Terengganu is the best place..

Fiza

And what are the pubs like in Terengganu? Any good ones?

bakedbean Feb 20th 2011 9:01 am

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Originally Posted by stranded traveller (Post 9187548)
you can heading to Cameron Highlands..if you love green ..fantastic...

Fiza

You seem to have a fixation with Cameron Highlands. You're not selling anything, are you?

stranded traveller Feb 21st 2011 1:32 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
Bakedbean,
come on...
I might have different taste than you, that for sure:)
For holiday the places I has suggested might good for him, instead living ..

So, I'm not in his shoes, and I believed KL so much to offer instead Malacca ,Johor or Penang...

Penang mostly nice place to stay for holiday or retired or MH2 program, I don't find that interest me to live there eventhough my dad hometown its originally from..might some history still freaking me out thought..sorry about that since you're retired in Penang,

Hope my message doesn't offend anyone

bakedbean Feb 21st 2011 2:37 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
Yes I think we have different opinions - no problem for me - but I think you have to be realistic when throwing information at those wanting recommendations. Try reading carefully Maxwell's first post on here. He wants to be able to walk out straight into town centre. He's not asking for a remote beach or a remote hill station.

I think Columbine's suggestions are good ones. I like Air Hitam too. It's not so touristy but it's got a nice hustle and bustle to the place and nice hilly backdrop. And I would guess it's about 20 to 30 minutes to Penang International Airport.

And shall we get a little bit realistic here? And if this offends you, I too apologise. I've not been to the East coast yet, but friends of mine did last week, and they said it was very difficult to get a drink in some places. Obviously I don't know what race or persuasion Maxwell is, and it's none of my business either, but I've noted in Penang that most Aussies do enjoy a beer or three, and so do I, so this may be something to consider - especially as Maxwell has the intention of staying in the future (see Topic title). Clearly if you are not bothered about drinking alcohol or having a 5am wakeup call, then this may be a great location to live. We are all different, aren't we - and the World would be a very boring place if we all liked the same things, right?

And, noted Stranded, that you don't answer my two questions either :sneaky:

ex reg Feb 21st 2011 5:15 am

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We haven't been to the east coast for some time now.
I like it, my wife doesn't.
She didn't like Mersing because the hotels weren't up to scratch, she isn't looking for international class hotels btw.
I like Kuantan, it's slow but interesting.
I want to drive up to Trengannu but it's a long way.
There's an annual round of an international yacht race held there so hotels etc should be up to scratch.
I wouldn't recommend JB to the OP, he'll be disappointed although having worked and lived there I quite like it.

Oh and I've never found it difficult to buy beer anywhere in Malaysia.

nonthaburi Feb 21st 2011 6:34 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
How much is a beer in Malaysia these days ?

columbine Feb 21st 2011 7:48 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying


Originally Posted by maxwellreid (Post 9182077)
..... and I was looking to visit as many towns that might fit what I want. I am looking at somewhere I can walk out the front door and be in/close to the town centre. I like the mundane activities, ie I can enjoy walking through a small alley way market more than visiting a temple.
I can see this sort of Q has been asked. However, I do not want to be in the suburbs with families etc, Reading through the posts, I can see that Ipoh/Georgetown/johor Bahru/Kuching might be interesting. However, the small towns are also interesting, Mersing, Taiping. I have been to KL and Penang and Malacca and can see their attractions Any places that I might look at? I plan to visit Ipoh, Taiping, Mersing but any other recommendations would be appreciated. An extra bonus would be:
A handy swimming pool (public/private) would be nice
a reliable and fast internet connection.

reasonable access to an airport
ok sort of weather Nov-Feb (temperature and humidity not soaring)

Max

In agreement with Bakedbean. We on the forum can only try to be helpful by answering accordingly or as close as we can to the different "wants and "do not wants" of writer Max and not to what we personally want or not want.
Suggestions are for mere references to and there is no absolute ;)

ex reg Feb 21st 2011 8:14 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 

Originally Posted by nonthaburi (Post 9190572)
How much is a beer in Malaysia these days ?

7 to 8 ringgit for a small bottle 14 to 16 ringgit for a large bottle.

Or more.

stranded traveller Feb 21st 2011 8:46 am

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His dissapear..am I freaking him out?:rofl:

bakedbean Feb 22nd 2011 2:39 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 

Originally Posted by nonthaburi (Post 9190572)
How much is a beer in Malaysia these days ?

A bit more expensive than Thailand unfortunately :( Wine prices are on a par with Thailand more or less.

stranded traveller Feb 23rd 2011 3:58 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
Thailand always the best place to get a few beer with some chicks:thumbup:

maxwellreid Feb 23rd 2011 10:52 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
Thanks, I was thinking that the 3-4 weeks I have to do groundwork, starting around the West coast (North), Penang Island. I have had some ideas about eventually buying a shop front (next trip)- is that the correct term? Only thing is I would need to be sure I could lock it up and leave it. I would probably not restore a run down one, but would maintain it. Maybe a bathroom. How feasible would it be to buy one? My budget (such an impolite thing to mention) is 500-900K RM. Georgetown, has a few?. A advantage of PI is also the airport, which seems to act as hub.

thanks again Max

maxwellreid Feb 23rd 2011 11:09 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
To push that concept, of buying a shopfront, would it be possible to rent out the "front" to a local business? I am not, not looking for a money making sideline, but more as a way to become part of the community and rather than closing down part of the street. Any thoughts?

bakedbean Feb 24th 2011 2:01 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
You can buy a shophouse in Penang for sure. There are plenty around Georgetown. I've also seen some new ones being built around Tanjung Tokong. I've not a clue about prices though. Maybe just have a google around - there's loads of Penang property websites.

I'm pretty sure that shophouse and shophouse renovation was discussed on my2home recently. I'll take a look tomorrow and see if I can find a link.... or you can take a look yourself.

bakedbean Feb 24th 2011 4:31 am

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Just had a little look on my2home. There's quite a lot of stuff on there but I think I may have given you a bum steer there. On this thread here....

http://www.my2home.info/index.php/to....html#msg15592

one of the posters says "My2homers can only buy residential properties so I guess a shophouse isn't allowed. But they're great to rent". If that's true, then probably applies to all "foreigners" I guess.

columbine Feb 24th 2011 5:31 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
A few years ago an old run down livable shop house could be gotten for under rm100K. But since Georgetown was made 'Unesco' the prices have shot up. I think I saw on some ads that a very run down and not liveable one is already in that price range (no windows, termite infested etc).
But you could still explore off the beaten track outside the 'Unesco' protected boundaries eg side roads within the boundaries of Jalan Anson, Jalan Dato Kramat, Jalan Macalister and Jln Perak .... Some of these were old shop lots and are now converted to residential houses as they were off the main roads and the prices could vary quite a bit depending on the size, condition and off or near the main thoroughfare.

bakedbean Feb 24th 2011 5:57 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
But are you allowed to buy one as a Foreigner. The guy on my2home thought that you couldn't, or is that info out of date?

maxwellreid Feb 24th 2011 9:10 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
i'm guessing that so long as you are not buying a business and you want to convert to residential, all is ok?

bakedbean Feb 24th 2011 9:30 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
I dunno. I'm no expert I'm afraid.

columbine Feb 25th 2011 2:55 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
I heard of at least one MM2Her who bought one old one (also read about it in the local papers a few years ago with their photos and all! ) renovated it, lived in it, the downstairs was a cafe/restaurant claiming to be a stopover rest place for the weary MM2Hers/info place for potential MM2Hers:blink: I believed when the price was right they sold it! Any thing goes here it seems:blink:

bakedbean Feb 25th 2011 3:13 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
Didn't they get fined or something for "running a business" as was perceived in the eyes of the authorities? If that's the same couple.

columbine Feb 25th 2011 3:55 am

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Last heard was the place was sold. Don't really know what happened exactly as it was 'permitted' under the previous state govt it seemed. Maybe we could be talking about the same couple:blink::huh:

Also read in the papers of another MM2H couple who bought an old shop, did it up really nice following the heritage reno guidelines - saw the photos in the papers a while back. They used it as a residence according to the news. So it seems permissible if purely for own residence and not business:confused:

maxwellreid Feb 25th 2011 4:15 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
yes, the shophouses in the main part of Georgetown have price tags outside my range. There was an feature article in the New York Times on Georgetown, so it is well on the map as being unique.

maxwellreid Mar 29th 2011 7:17 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 
Visited the triangle outside the unesco area that Colombine suggested. Rained on and off. Saw some great shop houses, some were in great condition, others were burnt out. The previous day talked to a renter of a shop house in the Unesco area and he told me that one person had taken 15 years to buy the whole row and they were all empty. He told me that the owner wouldn't want to sell me one. My guess he has other plans.

bakedbean Mar 29th 2011 8:16 am

Re: Places to visit with the intention of staying
 

Originally Posted by maxwellreid (Post 9271136)
Visited the triangle outside the unesco area that Colombine suggested. Rained on and off.

Yes, it's a funny ol' Dry Season this. You've been a bit unlucky with the weather so far. That's a shame about the shophouses.

columbine Mar 29th 2011 11:48 am

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The rainy season started real early this year. Normally it's awfully hot and dry over CNYear, but this past one was cooler and even a few good rain. Then we're supposed to be dry till April, but March feels like April with all that thunderstorms and torrential rain.
Maxwellreid, hope you find a row house you like ... maybe not in G'town but further out.


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