Passport for child of a UK Expat born in Malaysia
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I'm old fashioned! We had Colonies when I was growing up!

Of course , you are correct. Whoops!


Of course , you are correct. Whoops!

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Well I have spoken to an Immigration Officer who is a friend of mine for a couple of years now and who happened to interview me and my husband when I applied for his LTVP on 2013 and she said any Malaysian citizen is indeed not allowed to have a dual nationality. But when I told her that my daughter now has 2 passports and I have told the same to another 3 different immigration officers, they all told me to just keep it anyway.
I asked them what would happen if my daughter was found to be holding 2 passports and they said she would only be simply asked to choose one, no big trouble. They also mentioned that in fact, this case is common in Malaysia especially to those of mixed nationalities and those who have been a residence for a long time in another country. Sometimes a person of age over 21 is found to be holding 2 nationalities.
Have a look at the Article 23 under constitution of Malaysia and pay attention to the first one.
http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/researc...nstitution.pdf
Though it is clear that a Malaysian citizen cannot have a dual citizenship but reading that make everything so confusing again.
To me, it's as if it's saying that it's OK for my daughter to hold 2 passports until she is 21 then. I could be wrong but it is just the way I understand it.
I asked them what would happen if my daughter was found to be holding 2 passports and they said she would only be simply asked to choose one, no big trouble. They also mentioned that in fact, this case is common in Malaysia especially to those of mixed nationalities and those who have been a residence for a long time in another country. Sometimes a person of age over 21 is found to be holding 2 nationalities.
Have a look at the Article 23 under constitution of Malaysia and pay attention to the first one.
http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/researc...nstitution.pdf
Though it is clear that a Malaysian citizen cannot have a dual citizenship but reading that make everything so confusing again.
To me, it's as if it's saying that it's OK for my daughter to hold 2 passports until she is 21 then. I could be wrong but it is just the way I understand it.

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Originally Posted by InVinoVeritas
...The important difference is that the latter can be held by someone who has a Malaysian passport but the former cannot be.
Only ethnic Chinese connected with Penang and Malacca prior to 31 August 1957 are eligible.
Since British nationality can be obtained by "Descent", as long as the applicants can prove to the Home Office that their fathers or grandfathers etc were born in Penang or Malacca before 31 August 1957.
But, Home Office had decided that they would no longer consider citizenship applications involving BOC holders from Malaysia. So prior to that, BOC = British Citizenship. Now, BOC is just "Malaysian with a British travelling document". Not sure if you call this "dual" nationality though?

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Malaysia does NOT allow dual nationality ...by its own law. End of story.
What happens and is accepted is another story.... much like how the Prime Minister finds an unusual amount of money in his personal bank account.
What happens and is accepted is another story.... much like how the Prime Minister finds an unusual amount of money in his personal bank account.

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#38

As you say BOC is now little more than a travelling document - for example a British Overseas Citizen does not have an automatic right to live in the United Kingdom.
The former settlements (colonies) of Penang and Malacca were combined in 1948 with the nine Malay states (which were protected states not colonies) to form the Federation of Malaya.
On independence in August 1957, British Protected Persons (BPP) from the Malay states lost their BPP status. However, after representations made by the Straits Chinese, the UK and Malaya Governments agreed that the inhabitants of Penang and Malacca could keep their status as Citizens of the United Kingdom and Colonies (CUKC) as well as being citizens of Malaya.
In September 1963, the colonies of North Borneo, Sarawak and Singapore were joined with Malaya to form Malaysia (Singapore left Malaysia in 1965). CUKC was withdrawn from those acquiring Malaysian citizenship in 1963, but this did not affect existing citizens of the Federation.
As a result people connected with Penang and Malacca prior to August 1957, together with those born before 1983 in legitimate descent to fathers so connected, form the largest group of British Overseas citizens (over 1 million). Most are also Malaysian citizens.
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Originally Posted by JC3
British Overseas Citizen does not have an automatic right to live in the United Kingdom
But Brits living in Malaysia do not have the right to vote.
How can we solve:-
Originally Posted by Davita
the Prime Minister finds an unusual amount of money in his personal bank account.
It's so unfair right? Just like Scottish students do not have to pay any university tuition fees! Talk about equality, eh? My Chinese Singaporean friends always like to mock at us Chinese Malaysians being treated like 2nd Class citizens in our own country. At least, English/ Welsh/ Irish students who wish to study in Scotland can understand how we feel! Ha ha


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We've just been blessed with a baby boy 4 days ago!
We were given forms to register the birth here and were also told he'll get Malaysian PR status! Does anyone know what the procedure is in informing British consulate or similar?
We were given forms to register the birth here and were also told he'll get Malaysian PR status! Does anyone know what the procedure is in informing British consulate or similar?
