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GRP Jan 29th 2020 8:30 am

Moving to Malaysia
 
HI Community

I am looking to move to Malaysia with my wife.

I will travel a lot and will need to be in Singapore and KL mainly with other trips to the rest of the world, so need somewhere safe and secure for my family while i am away.

Am thinking would be good somewhere on the coast between KL and Singapore with good access to KL airport.

Would like something like a villa with a pool and/or on a beach.

Are there any locations that you would recommend that would be suitable?

Gary

OriginalSunshine Jan 29th 2020 10:17 am

Re: Moving to Malaysia
 
Do you have children? Will they need schooling?

GRP Jan 30th 2020 1:46 am

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Children are 32 and 30 - still need schooling but will not listen to me.

Seriously - we will have visitors but not schooling needs.

ex reg Jan 30th 2020 2:39 am

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You will definitely feel your wife is safer if you live in Singapore.

The more expensive your accommodation is the more likely it is to be burgled.
Not only that but daily living, supermarket visits, doctor's surgery, dental, restaurants etc etc while available on the coast between Singapore and Malaysia, say in Malacca and Port Dickson are much below the standard you will find in Singapore.
I've lived in JB and Singapore and holidayed in Malacca and Port Dickson, many times.
There is only one place you would be happy to leave your wife while away on business.
imo.

GRP Jan 30th 2020 8:28 am

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Thank you

Gunnar45 Jan 30th 2020 9:15 am

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If Singapore for some reason is not the first option for residence, then Penang could be a place to consider.
Good flight connections to KL, Singapore and international.
Lots of condos available for sale or rent with facilities like pool, gym, etc and better security than in a landed property.
Excellent health care facilities.
And a quite a big expat community.
Not as perfect and high quality as Singapore, but also not so over regulated and costly.


ex reg Jan 30th 2020 11:05 am

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Originally Posted by Gunnar45 (Post 12798424)
If Singapore for some reason is not the first option for residence, then Penang could be a place to consider.
Good flight connections to KL, Singapore and international.
Lots of condos available for sale or rent with facilities like pool, gym, etc and better security than in a landed property.
Excellent health care facilities.
And a quite a big expat community.
Not as perfect and high quality as Singapore, but also not so over regulated and costly.

I agree that Penang is a good alternative.

But fmi what do you mean by overly regulated.

Gunnar45 Jan 31st 2020 12:09 am

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ex reg,
'Overly regulated',
It is a personal opinion on the price of perfectionism.

ex reg Jan 31st 2020 12:50 am

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Originally Posted by Gunnar45 (Post 12798911)
ex reg,
'Overly regulated',
It is a personal opinion on the price of perfectionism.

Fine thanks.
Yup it's a personal opinion.

Just one specific instance might help with my understanding of your point.

Gunnar45 Jan 31st 2020 3:25 am

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Well, I understand that other individuals may have different opinions, ideals or beliefs, but as I said, I find life in Singapore to be a bit overly regulated.
I believe that also among Singapore residents one may find different opinions regarding the 'price' for enjoying the living there.
If you noticed, they even sell T-shirts in Singapore joking about the 'Fine City'

ex reg Jan 31st 2020 4:27 am

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Last question then.
What regulation do you find in Singapore which is not regulated in Malaysia,
Don't give me chewing gum.:rofl:

Gunnar45 Jan 31st 2020 6:45 am

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I think one could consider the specific bans on chewing gum, urinating in elevators and not flushing the toilet to be examples of over regulation.
The reasons however, (for chewing gum I think it was people clogging the door sensors of the MRT) are of course valid.
Outside Singapore, there are general laws which cover these things. Like in Malaysia.
So no need for special mention of these offences like its done in Singapore.

The above together with the criminalization of feeding pigeons and singing certain songs openly while allowing caning of children at home and in school does however indicate that what others may see as examples of over regulation may indeed be required in Singapore :shades_smile:



OriginalSunshine Jan 31st 2020 7:42 am

Re: Moving to Malaysia
 
So, no school aged children which makes things much easier.

ok, Singapore without a doubt is much safer than KL. Both street crime, road crime, burglary, personal safety.

on the other hand the cost of living is very much higher and the visas are harder to get.

port Dickson or Johor are fine places but won’t be as expat-y as KL or Singapore

Scuba Tyke Feb 7th 2020 12:32 am

Re: Moving to Malaysia
 

Originally Posted by GRP (Post 12797786)
HI Community

I am looking to move to Malaysia with my wife.

I will travel a lot and will need to be in Singapore and KL mainly with other trips to the rest of the world, so need somewhere safe and secure for my family while i am away.

Am thinking would be good somewhere on the coast between KL and Singapore with good access to KL airport.

Would like something like a villa with a pool and/or on a beach.

Are there any locations that you would recommend that would be suitable?

Gary

Hello Gary,

My wife & I are retired and live in Port Dickson (PD). If you are considering PD as an option feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

ex reg Feb 7th 2020 12:47 am

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Originally Posted by Scuba Tyke (Post 12803087)
Hello Gary,

My wife & I are retired and live in Port Dickson (PD). If you are considering PD as an option feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to answer any questions.

See my opinion in post 4 above.

For my own info I wonder about the opinion of someone living in PD, was I too downbeat in what I said?

Scuba Tyke Feb 7th 2020 1:58 am

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Originally Posted by ex reg (Post 12803091)
See my opinion in post 4 above.

For my own info I wonder about the opinion of someone living in PD, was I too downbeat in what I said?

No, I think you're probably correct in your general comparison. We are happy living in PD, but it wouldn't suit everyone.

PoolieAbroad Feb 7th 2020 3:44 am

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The other area on the coast you could consider is Melaka
It has several new condominiums coming up, but beware of AirBnBs in some of the newer ones. ( noisy invaders at the weekends and holidays)
Houses are available in the same area ( Klebang)
The State also has 4 golf courses, three have houses on them for rent and sale.
Tiara...........larger houses quite well developed.
Orna ..........A few for rent and sale but less developed.
A'Famosa....inland and not a good location for supermarkets etc.
These three all have facilities including a pool and restaurants.
Supermarket shopping is fine for day to day goods, Anything really special you need to drive to find Jaya Grocer, the nearest being in Nilai.
Singapore border is just over 2 hours drive to Tuas...........Cross border car hire can be expensive. The bus is super cheap.
KLIA is about an hour and a half drive...............taxi/car is about RM 160 each way.
Melaka is not packed with expats..............good or bad depending on your requirements.


ex reg Feb 7th 2020 8:27 am

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Originally Posted by PoolieAbroad (Post 12803115)
The other area on the coast you could consider is Melaka
It has several new condominiums coming up, but beware of AirBnBs in some of the newer ones. ( noisy invaders at the weekends and holidays)
Houses are available in the same area ( Klebang)
The State also has 4 golf courses, three have houses on them for rent and sale.
Tiara...........larger houses quite well developed.
Orna ..........A few for rent and sale but less developed.
A'Famosa....inland and not a good location for supermarkets etc.
These three all have facilities including a pool and restaurants.
Supermarket shopping is fine for day to day goods, Anything really special you need to drive to find Jaya Grocer, the nearest being in Nilai.
Singapore border is just over 2 hours drive to Tuas...........Cross border car hire can be expensive. The bus is super cheap.
KLIA is about an hour and a half drive...............taxi/car is about RM 160 each way.
Melaka is not packed with expats..............good or bad depending on your requirements.

Is that Malaysia side of Tuas before customs or Singapore side after customs.
And are you starting the journey in the centre of Malacca or at the Ayer Keroh toll?

But wherever your start and finish line is 'just over two hours' must mean not stopping for toilet breaks and not heeding the 110 kph limit.:shades_smile:
imo.

SushiFan Feb 7th 2020 8:35 am

Re: Moving to Malaysia
 

Originally Posted by PoolieAbroad (Post 12803115)
The other area on the coast you could consider is Melaka
It has several new condominiums coming up, but beware of AirBnBs in some of the newer ones. ( noisy invaders at the weekends and holidays)
Houses are available in the same area ( Klebang)
The State also has 4 golf courses, three have houses on them for rent and sale.
Tiara...........larger houses quite well developed.
Orna ..........A few for rent and sale but less developed.
A'Famosa....inland and not a good location for supermarkets etc.
These three all have facilities including a pool and restaurants.
Supermarket shopping is fine for day to day goods, Anything really special you need to drive to find Jaya Grocer, the nearest being in Nilai.
Singapore border is just over 2 hours drive to Tuas...........Cross border car hire can be expensive. The bus is super cheap.
KLIA is about an hour and a half drive...............taxi/car is about RM 160 each way.
Melaka is not packed with expats..............good or bad depending on your requirements.

I read last week in the news about water shortages in Melaka. Did you experience any rationing where you live?

PoolieAbroad Feb 8th 2020 12:24 am

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From one of the golf clubs in Ayer Keroh to the Malaysia Side of Tuas is just over 2 hours with no speeding, no stopping
Can check it on Google maps which shows 2 hours 8 mins.

PoolieAbroad Feb 8th 2020 12:29 am

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Re Water shortages...........

Indeed there are restrictions at the moment with water on alternate days.
Most houses have large tanks in the roof, Condominiums have tanks up on high as well so generally folk in either types of dwelling are not directly affected.
I believe it may get a bit more serious soon unless it rains soon. 2019 had just over 50% or normal rainfall and the reservoirs are pretty low.
Every area was not affected but the news yesterday stated the areas would be expanded to include some Industrial areas and Tourist areas.

ex reg Feb 8th 2020 1:11 am

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Originally Posted by PoolieAbroad (Post 12803595)
From one of the golf clubs in Ayer Keroh to the Malaysia Side of Tuas is just over 2 hours with no speeding, no stopping
Can check it on Google maps which shows 2 hours 8 mins.

Must be additional 30min into centre of Malacca and 20 mins min to get to Singapore side of Tuas if no jam. Further 25 min to centre of Singapore.
And I suppose Google doesn't account for all the lorries overtaking at 50kph in the outside lane.
Or of Singapore cars with headlights blazing bombing along in the outside lane daring anyone to overtake before they pass them.

Bikbergen Feb 18th 2020 10:13 am

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Originally Posted by Gunnar45 (Post 12798424)
If Singapore for some reason is not the first option for residence, then Penang could be a place to consider.
Good flight connections to KL, Singapore and international.
Lots of condos available for sale or rent with facilities like pool, gym, etc and better security than in a landed property.
Excellent health care facilities.
And a quite a big expat community.
Not as perfect and high quality as Singapore, but also not so over regulated and costly.

Penang is the place to be!
We will finally purchase our landed property end of this year (we have a dog).
My family got burgled in Singapore when we lived there (in the sixties :P).
But seriously, I'm more worried about crime in the UK than in Malaysia.
I agree that you should try to keep a fairly low profile, we're not going to buy a super Villa but a semi-D or a modest single story with garden.
Metal gates on doors and windows are standard in Malaysia.
You need to be seriously high on the Net worth ladder to gain PR status in Singapore (see attachment).
Properties cost millions of S$$$$
But it's the complete lack of culture in Singapore that made us prefer to retire in Malaysia.
Singapore's become one gigantic shopping mall!


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