Moving from HK to KL
Aug 23rd 2019, 7:35 am
#1
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Moving from HK to KL
Hi All,
We are currently living in Hong Kong and thinking of moving to KL through MM2H
we are planning so that my wife n kids will move to KL while I will work here in HK and stay in a small apartment n visit them every month. The cost of living in hk is very high n given we have 3 kids in international schools, it’s been difficult managing expenses. The small apartments here also don’t help much !
I am trying to calculate the cost of living for a family of 5
we have 3 kids: aged :12 , 8, 4 years
I am looking to maintain the same kind of standard of living (if not better) as we have in HK
such as
2000 sqft+ condo in central area such as damansara or mont kiara
international affordable schools for kids such Cempaka internationl school. Looking at cap of 5k RM per month per child
Housemaid
I have tried to work out some basic calulations, please help me finalize these
Rent: 6000
School= 14000 (for all 3 kids)
Maid= 1500
Goreceries: 4500
Utilities: 500
Misc enttertainment (Movies, eating out etc over weekend): 2000
Car (installments, petrol etc): 1000
Shopping & extra curricular classes for kids: 3000
Total= 32500 RM
Can you please help be tidy up the budget a bit as the total comes out to be a bit high that what I expected? I know there is no limit for expenses but I tried to price in the school, housing based on my research and other expenses based on how we spend here in HK (offcourse its much more expensive here)
thanks a lot
We are currently living in Hong Kong and thinking of moving to KL through MM2H
we are planning so that my wife n kids will move to KL while I will work here in HK and stay in a small apartment n visit them every month. The cost of living in hk is very high n given we have 3 kids in international schools, it’s been difficult managing expenses. The small apartments here also don’t help much !
I am trying to calculate the cost of living for a family of 5
we have 3 kids: aged :12 , 8, 4 years
I am looking to maintain the same kind of standard of living (if not better) as we have in HK
such as
2000 sqft+ condo in central area such as damansara or mont kiara
international affordable schools for kids such Cempaka internationl school. Looking at cap of 5k RM per month per child
Housemaid
I have tried to work out some basic calulations, please help me finalize these
Rent: 6000
School= 14000 (for all 3 kids)
Maid= 1500
Goreceries: 4500
Utilities: 500
Misc enttertainment (Movies, eating out etc over weekend): 2000
Car (installments, petrol etc): 1000
Shopping & extra curricular classes for kids: 3000
Total= 32500 RM
Can you please help be tidy up the budget a bit as the total comes out to be a bit high that what I expected? I know there is no limit for expenses but I tried to price in the school, housing based on my research and other expenses based on how we spend here in HK (offcourse its much more expensive here)
thanks a lot
Aug 23rd 2019, 12:08 pm
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
School fees : http://www.cempaka.edu.my/resources/...es_2017_18.pdf
Rent: I property.com.my but looking at 8-10k for something in simple in Damansara. 10-18k in Mont Kiara
Maid:2300-2800
Groceries: 4500 if you want local, 6000 expat food
Utilities 1500-3000 depending on how much you like aircon in the haze
Rent: I property.com.my but looking at 8-10k for something in simple in Damansara. 10-18k in Mont Kiara
Maid:2300-2800
Groceries: 4500 if you want local, 6000 expat food
Utilities 1500-3000 depending on how much you like aircon in the haze
Aug 23rd 2019, 6:54 pm
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
Well we don't know what your Standard of Living is in HK. And is the currency above in MYR. Everything looks really high to me....except the schooling which seems low.
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...untry=Malaysia
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...untry=Malaysia
Aug 24th 2019, 7:47 am
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
Whatever you save with costs of living or rent in countries like Malaysia are burnt away completely by sending them to international schools. You really need to have a very deep love for Malaysia to do this 
Aug 24th 2019, 12:55 pm
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
Hey Rs2000,
We are in a position where we have to leave KL and move back to the UK so our apartment is up for rent. It’s in Bangsar, near BSC and the new MRT station. It’s a 3+1 bedroom (+1 is for the maid) and I can give you more details and pictures in PM.
Give be me a shout if the area may suit.
Thanks
peep
We are in a position where we have to leave KL and move back to the UK so our apartment is up for rent. It’s in Bangsar, near BSC and the new MRT station. It’s a 3+1 bedroom (+1 is for the maid) and I can give you more details and pictures in PM.
Give be me a shout if the area may suit.
Thanks
peep
Aug 24th 2019, 2:36 pm
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
We move from Hong Kong to Phuket in 2016 You can get guardians visa the budget you have you can live luxury in Phuket let me know if you are interested i’ll give you the breakdown.MM2H visa is expensive You can easily get guardians visa from school.
Last edited by Jenny234; Aug 24th 2019 at 2:42 pm.
Aug 24th 2019, 7:16 pm
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
I think that's because he isn't British or European. He's from HK and his wife and kids are US passport holders (according to a different thread). He also wants to continue to work in HK.
Aug 24th 2019, 7:56 pm
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
I think that if you compare the International Cambridge Tuition and Fees of Cempaka with your budget you'll have a heart attack.
http://www.cempaka.edu.my/resources/...es_2017_18.pdf
your budget is 5k/child/month
Application Fee = 12K Term Security Deposit = 15 K Tuition Fee/Year between RM34-54K/year (I assume the deposit is taken out of that). So monthly (after application fee) you'll be paying between RM3000-4500/month/student.
But over in Sarawak at Tunku Putra International the annual fees are between 16-25K per year for the Cambridge Curriculum (20% Founder's Discount) w/ 100% registration fee waiver and a 5% lifetime cap on fee increases.
https://tphis.edu.my/fees/
http://www.cempaka.edu.my/resources/...es_2017_18.pdf
your budget is 5k/child/month
Application Fee = 12K Term Security Deposit = 15 K Tuition Fee/Year between RM34-54K/year (I assume the deposit is taken out of that). So monthly (after application fee) you'll be paying between RM3000-4500/month/student.
But over in Sarawak at Tunku Putra International the annual fees are between 16-25K per year for the Cambridge Curriculum (20% Founder's Discount) w/ 100% registration fee waiver and a 5% lifetime cap on fee increases.
https://tphis.edu.my/fees/
Aug 24th 2019, 11:28 pm
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womble
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
Well we don't know what your Standard of Living is in HK. And is the currency above in MYR. Everything looks really high to me....except the schooling which seems low.
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...untry=Malaysia
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-livin...untry=Malaysia
KL is a very expensive city, even more so with the exchange rate dropping from sterling to ringgit.
Aug 25th 2019, 12:52 pm
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
Good luck wherever you decide to go.
Aug 27th 2019, 5:26 am
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
I think that if you compare the International Cambridge Tuition and Fees of Cempaka with your budget you'll have a heart attack.
http://www.cempaka.edu.my/resources/...es_2017_18.pdf
your budget is 5k/child/month
Application Fee = 12K Term Security Deposit = 15 K Tuition Fee/Year between RM34-54K/year (I assume the deposit is taken out of that). So monthly (after application fee) you'll be paying between RM3000-4500/month/student.
But over in Sarawak at Tunku Putra International the annual fees are between 16-25K per year for the Cambridge Curriculum (20% Founder's Discount) w/ 100% registration fee waiver and a 5% lifetime cap on fee increases.
https://tphis.edu.my/fees/
http://www.cempaka.edu.my/resources/...es_2017_18.pdf
your budget is 5k/child/month
Application Fee = 12K Term Security Deposit = 15 K Tuition Fee/Year between RM34-54K/year (I assume the deposit is taken out of that). So monthly (after application fee) you'll be paying between RM3000-4500/month/student.
But over in Sarawak at Tunku Putra International the annual fees are between 16-25K per year for the Cambridge Curriculum (20% Founder's Discount) w/ 100% registration fee waiver and a 5% lifetime cap on fee increases.
https://tphis.edu.my/fees/
So you total is 4500RM/month/child = 3*4500= 13,500 RM/month isn't that what I also calculated (~15k for 3 kids/month)?
Aug 27th 2019, 5:28 am
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
thanks I haven't applied to MM2H yet and hence our timeline isn't final yet.
I will come there and then search for apartment based on the schools
I will come there and then search for apartment based on the schools
Aug 27th 2019, 5:29 am
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thanks again!
Aug 27th 2019, 5:30 am
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Re: Moving from HK to KL
for reason of commuting from HK and for familiarity, I do want to move my family to KL. kindly help with my questions