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Old Mar 9th 2018, 8:39 am
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If they made it look like an accident it wouldn't send the message to other double agents, "We can and will kill you and your family."
Precisely!

Mind you, if I was service of another power and wanted to remove somebody, what better way, the perfect frame up!
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Old Mar 9th 2018, 8:57 am
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Isn't it interesting that the Russians (allegedly) have used such a blatantly obvious "Russian" method, a complicated way at that, to carry out this attack- when a botched mugging / burglary or hit & run could have achieved the same result - without the accusations & "retribution"?
... erm... nor the fact that Porton Down is in the same County just 7-10 miles off. But then, I'm a very stupid-fellow so I can't think of things like that.
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There have been a dozen or so knocked off in the UK in the past few years, so I think they already get the message!
When they get the message they'll realise ex double agents can't live openly and have their daughters come visit just like regular people. A "dozen or so" includes rogue oligarchs who have denied or tried to deny wealth or businesses to Putin or his inner circle, and those can be allowed some ambiguity (and some may have been accidents or suicide) but all traitors get the unmistakable FEB calling card. It would be naive to think that western security services are any more forgiving toward those who betray their trust.
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Londoner denied NHS cancer care: 'It's like I'm being left to die'

Thompson has lived in London for 44 years, having arrived from Jamaica as a teenager, and although he has worked as a mechanic and paid taxes for more than three decades, the Home Office is disputing his eligibility to remain.

Official suspicion about his immigration status led to him being evicted last summer, and he was homeless for three weeks. His disputed status has also led to free healthcare being denied. Because he has no savings and no way of paying £54,000, he says he is not receiving the cancer treatment he needs.

The 63-year-old, who asked for his real name not to be printed on legal advice, is another victim of an unfolding scandal around the treatment by the Home Office of a group of people who arrived in the UK as children from Commonwealth countries. This cohort grew up believing themselves to be British, only to discover in a rapidly hardening immigration climate that they need documentary proof of their right to be here, which many do not have.

Thompson’s mother moved from Jamaica to the UK in the 1960s to work as a nurse, dedicating much of her working life to the health system. He married in Britain, and has two grown up sons and a 15-year-old daughter. Thompson was employed full time as a mechanic and later did MOT work, until 2008 when he was diagnosed with the blood cancer lymphoma; since then he has been too ill to work.
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Thompson has lived in London for 44 years, having arrived from Jamaica as a teenager, and although he has worked as a mechanic and paid taxes for more than three decades, the Home Office is disputing his eligibility to remain.
Official suspicion about his immigration status led to him being evicted last summer, and he was homeless for three weeks. His disputed status has also led to free healthcare being denied. Because he has no savings and no way of paying £54,000, he says he is not receiving the cancer treatment he needs.
The 63-year-old, who asked for his real name not to be printed on legal advice, is another victim of an unfolding scandal around the treatment by the Home Office of a group of people who arrived in the UK as children from Commonwealth countries. This cohort grew up believing themselves to be British, only to discover in a rapidly hardening immigration climate that they need documentary proof of their right to be here, which many do not have.
Thompson’s mother moved from Jamaica to the UK in the 1960s to work as a nurse, dedicating much of her working life to the health system. He married in Britain, and has two grown up sons and a 15-year-old daughter. Thompson was employed full time as a mechanic and later did MOT work, until 2008 when he was diagnosed with the blood cancer lymphoma; since then he has been too ill to work.
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Shameful.... No other word for it.
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Old Mar 10th 2018, 11:22 am
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Shameful.... No other word for it.
As you say.
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Thompson has lived in London for 44 years, having arrived from Jamaica as a teenager, and although he has worked as a mechanic and paid taxes for more than three decades, the Home Office is disputing his eligibility to remain.
Official suspicion about his immigration status led to him being evicted last summer, and he was homeless for three weeks. His disputed status has also led to free healthcare being denied. Because he has no savings and no way of paying £54,000, he says he is not receiving the cancer treatment he needs.
The 63-year-old, who asked for his real name not to be printed on legal advice, is another victim of an unfolding scandal around the treatment by the Home Office of a group of people who arrived in the UK as children from Commonwealth countries. This cohort grew up believing themselves to be British, only to discover in a rapidly hardening immigration climate that they need documentary proof of their right to be here, which many do not have.
Thompson’s mother moved from Jamaica to the UK in the 1960s to work as a nurse, dedicating much of her working life to the health system. He married in Britain, and has two grown up sons and a 15-year-old daughter. Thompson was employed full time as a mechanic and later did MOT work, until 2008 when he was diagnosed with the blood cancer lymphoma; since then he has been too ill to work.
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Old Mar 10th 2018, 2:32 pm
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This.
And there are probably thousands more reading this who will now be concerned that seeking medical treatment will affect their immigration status.
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Old Mar 10th 2018, 2:56 pm
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Isn't it interesting that the Russians (allegedly) have used such a blatantly obvious "Russian" method, a complicated way at that, to carry out this attack- when a botched mugging / burglary or hit & run could have achieved the same result - without the accusations & "retribution"?
We are supposed to know, it was an attack on individuals and, like the planes flying too close and in UK air space, it's a little dig, at the country, that is enough but not too much.

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Old Mar 10th 2018, 3:27 pm
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We are supposed to know, it was an attack on individuals and, like the planes flying to close and in UK "managed" air space, it's a little dig, at the country, that is enough but not too much.
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Old Mar 10th 2018, 7:58 pm
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We are supposed to know, it was an attack on individuals and, like the planes flying too close and in UK air space, it's a little dig, at the country, that is enough but not too much.
So..... using that logic, if a person was to say they've heard of this Russian called Vladimir, who's middle aged, single, doesn't have a female partner, or girlfriends, but likes taking vacations riding round on a horse stripped to the waist and wrestling with a bunch of guys..... I wonder what would happen...
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MAybe not palonium, but something just as nasty. Sarin maybe or even some nasty Russian Novichok type chemical.

Called it !
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A jobsworth/officialdom cockup story ...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...source=Twitter
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A jobsworth/officialdom cockup story ...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...source=Twitter
Just as well Stephen Hawking died when he did, otherwise the DWP would have him stacking shelves in Tesco!
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A jobsworth/officialdom cockup story ...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...source=Twitter
Lessons will be learned!
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