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Old May 4th 2020, 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
You can see why they gave it up.

Is this in any way connected with those names that start with a double F?

I once met a Mexican consul whose last name was Ffrench.
Ah. That one I know, since I once knew a guy called ffoulkes who was at pains to point out the impossibility of entering a last name without a capital letter on many online forms.

The ff (never Ff) is apparently an obsolete hangover from 15th century legal English handwriting, where a perfectly normal F developed extra vertical "ticks" at the end of the upper horizontal, to the point that it eventually looked like a ligature of two lowercase f's. Few surnames keep the style, but some surnames like ffoulkes, ffrench, ffarington, ffinch, ffloyd and others keep the bastardization alive. And then there are some pretentious abominations who keep the double consonant but capitalize the first: that's just plain wrong, IMO.
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Ah. That one I know, since I once knew a guy called ffoulkes who was at pains to point out the impossibility of entering a last name without a capital letter on many online forms.

The ff (never Ff) is apparently an obsolete hangover from 15th century legal English handwriting, where a perfectly normal F developed extra vertical "ticks" at the end of the upper horizontal, to the point that it eventually looked like a ligature of two lowercase f's. Few surnames keep the style, but some surnames like ffoulkes, ffrench, ffarington, ffinch, ffloyd and others keep the bastardization alive. And then there are some pretentious abominations who keep the double consonant but capitalize the first: that's just plain wrong, IMO.

He was Mexican, so no idea how that rule applies in Spanish. He was quite nice, except that he would kiss my hand in greeting which was a bit - odd.
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
He was Mexican, so no idea how that rule applies in Spanish. He was quite nice, except that he would kiss my hand in greeting which was a bit - odd.
Kissing anything else might have been considered a ffaux pas!
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Kissing anything else might have been considered a ffaux pas!

And he was nothing if not ffastidious.
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A weather word. precipitation or i would use rain
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A weather word. precipitation or i would use rain
Often followed by petrichor.
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A weather word. precipitation or i would use rain
That might be a bit precipitate of you.
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Yes

I had a really good word that I had never come across before , ever , and now I've forgotten it & although it hovers on the edge of my conciousness I cannot bring it to mind at all.
It'll come to you at 2:45 am on Sunday.
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When I recall tasting the water in Bath, all I think of was warm and unpleasant.... but I should have realised it was in fact Aequeosalinocalcalinoceraceoaluminosocupreovitriol ic.

A word for us all to remember, describing as it does the equally salty, chalky, waxy, aluminous, copper-oxidy taste of the water..... obvious really.

(and I don't know why this editor insists on putting a space in front of the final "ic", but it does......)
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When I recall tasting the water in Bath, all I think of was warm and unpleasant.... but I should have realised it was in fact Aequeosalinocalcalinoceraceoaluminosocupreovitriol ic.

A word for us all to remember, describing as it does the equally salty, chalky, waxy, aluminous, copper-oxidy taste of the water..... obvious really.
I'm surprised there's no sulphur in there. Bath water is vile stuff.
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Bath water is vile stuff.
What do you expect after sitting in it washing?
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When I recall tasting the water in Bath, all I think of was warm and unpleasant.... but I should have realised it was in fact Aequeosalinocalcalinoceraceoaluminosocupreovitriolic.

A word for us all to remember, describing as it does the equally salty, chalky, waxy, aluminous, copper-oxidy taste of the water..... obvious really ......
Acidic too, apparently.
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Originally Posted by Lion in Winter View Post
I'm surprised there's no sulphur in there. Bath water is vile stuff.
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Acidic too, apparently.
My error, I should have described the taste as equally salty, chalky, waxy, aluminous, copper-sulphatey...... a vitriol is a sulphate, caused by the action of "oil of vitriol" on a metal. Chemistry never was my subject

Vitriol as an expression is shorthand for oil of vitriol, i.e. that liquid that causes vitriol to be produced, i.e. sulphuric acid.

Bath water was great for swimming - it once had cheap public swimming poools heated by the natural spring water..... the Cross bath, the Royal bath and the Beau street baths, but then the council decided to buils a soulless "heath centre" like everywhere else and abandoned the central pools. There was a story that someone might have contracted diptheria from the untreated water and it gave the council all the excuse they needed to sell off the sites to a private concern. Welcome to true "soak the tourists" at the private luxury spa that grew up utilising the space of those original pools.

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My error, I should have described the taste as equally salty, chalky, waxy, aluminous, copper-sulphatey...... a vitriol is a sulphate, caused by the action of "oil of vitriol" on a metal. Chemistry never was my subject

Vitriol as an expression is shorthand for oil of vitriol, i.e. that liquid that causes vitriol to be produced, i.e. sulphuric acid.
Interesting - I have learned something. I knew that "oil of vitriol" is sulphic acid, but I didn't know that "vitriol" is "sulphate", I had always assumed is was a synonym for "acid".
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Interesting - I have learned something. I knew that "oil of vitriol" is sulphic acid, but I didn't know that "vitriol" is "sulphate", I had always assumed is was a synonym for "acid".
Sorry I indulged myself in an edit about the "evolution" of Bath whilst you were posting. Vitriol is supposedly due to the glasst appearance of the sulphates, so its use as an acid doesn't stack up except as shorthand for "oil of vitriol". Change of use.... exactly what we've discussed about words...
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