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Old Aug 11th 2020, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Nutek View Post
Cant we go back to nice imperial measures now? Like with potatoes?
I never really left - despite only ever being taught the metric system at school.

The metric system is great for science, and in fact teaching science without using metric measurement would be nigh-on impossible, but metric measures suck for things like construction*, cabinet making, and cooking. And trying to impose metric measurements on milk and draft beer is infringing on my cultural heritage!

My local timber merchant in London used to sell timber by the "metric foot" i.e. multiples of 30cm.

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Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
Yeah, unfortunately dictionaries follow usage, not vice versa. ...... Which has led to "unusual" and "unique" becoming synonyms.

"It's very unique".
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Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
"metric foot" i.e. multiples of 30cm.
That'll be 305mm guv.

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"It's very unique".
Not as bad as "almost unique", which is totally meaningless
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Originally Posted by Nutek View Post
That'll be 305mm guv.

Ta very muchly.
In Portugal, plumbing supplies are still sold in polegadas....i.e. thumbs...... i.e. Inches. This in a metric country.
In the UK, plumbing supplies are metric.
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Originally Posted by Pulaski View Post
The metric system is great for science, and in fact teaching science without using metric measurement would be nigh-on impossible, but metric measures suck for things like construction*, cabinet making, and cooking.
I like to mix Celsius and Fahrenheit.

90f or 100f says so much more than 32c or 38c and at the other extreme 0c and 10 below says more than 32 and 14.

If I know yesterday was 72 and today is going to be 82, that means far more to me than 22 becoming 27.
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Old Aug 11th 2020, 3:20 pm
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In Portugal, plumbing supplies are still sold in polegadas....i.e. thumbs...... i.e. Inches. This in a metric country.
In the UK, plumbing supplies are metric.
I think you will find that pipes and fittings in the UK are "nominal metric" and that both pipe diameters and fitting screw threads are the same as they have been for decades. Things need to be "backwards compatible" with all the pumbing fittings already installed, so changing the standard screw thread or pipe diameter by a few tenths of a mm would create all sorts of unnecessary problems.

I remember hearing, probably around 20 years ago, that computer (and TV?) screens in Europe were still defined by the diagonal measurement in inches - and I certainly remember seeing that to be the case in Italy in the 1990's.

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I like to mix Celsius and Fahrenheit.

90f or 100f says so much more than 32c or 38c and at the other extreme 0c and 10 below says more than 32 and 14.

If I know yesterday was 72 and today is going to be 82, that means far more to me than 22 becoming 27.
I just can't be doing Fahrenheit....... it's like measuring distance in chains.
100 is boiling, 40 is hot, 30 is ok, 0 is baltic..... less than that is time to stay indoors!
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Originally Posted by macliam View Post
.....100 is boiling, 40 is hot, 30 is ok, 0 is baltic..... less than that is time to stay indoors!
Same here (US) for me in Farenheit, except 40 is "cool" not "hot".
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I like to mix Celsius and Fahrenheit.

90f or 100f says so much more than 32c or 38c and at the other extreme 0c and 10 below says more than 32 and 14.

If I know yesterday was 72 and today is going to be 82, that means far more to me than 22 becoming 27.
Yeah, I mostly agree with that - I know that -5ºC is cold, and that around 15ºC is the transition between cool and warm, but once I get beyond 20ºC I am unsure how hot it is ...... wherease 70ºF is warm, 80ºF is hot, 90ºF is unpleasant, and 100ºF is boiling hot.

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Originally Posted by BristolUK View Post
I like to mix Celsius and Fahrenheit.

90f or 100f says so much more than 32c or 38c and at the other extreme 0c and 10 below says more than 32 and 14.

If I know yesterday was 72 and today is going to be 82, that means far more to me than 22 becoming 27.
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I just can't be doing Fahrenheit....... it's like measuring distance in chains.
100 is boiling, 40 is hot, 30 is ok, 0 is baltic..... less than that is time to stay indoors!
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Same here (US) for me in Farenheit, except 40 is "cool" not "hot".

Yeah, I mostly agree with that - I know that -5ºC is cold, and that around 15ºC is the transition between cool and warm, but once I get beyond 20ºC I am unsure how hot it is ...... wherease 70ºF is warm, 80ºF is hot, 90ºF is unpleasant, and 100ºF is boiling hot.

I do this by country. The US has Fahrenheit weather, and I dress accordingly. Europe has Centigrade weather, and the same goes. All clear, not a problem. The problem is the UK, since I grew up there in Fahrenheit but now people talk in Centigrade.
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I do this by country. The US has Fahrenheit weather, and I dress accordingly. Europe has Centigrade weather, and the same goes. All clear, not a problem. The problem is the UK, since I grew up there in Fahrenheit but now people talk in Centigrade.
It's all a matter of degree.
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I called my mum in the UK the other day, and was shocked to hear her saying something about the temperature being thirty degrees. Clearly this sort of language shows she has been brainwashed of late into using the wrong units. All I know is that every day here is in the 90s and it ain't half hot.

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It's all a matter of degree.

And then there's the issue of buying sweets.

Asking for 250 grams of jelly babies is just wrong
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And then there's the issue of buying sweets.

Asking for 250 grams of jelly babies is just wrong ......
Why would anyone buy anything other than "a quarter", or a "a half"?

That said, buy fractions of jelly babies also sounds wrong.
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I haven't really heard anyone taliking about Fahrenheit in the UK for years..... it's just added to the "real" temperatures as an afterthought.

But then, nothing strange there, the UK is nothing if not confused over measurements..... we buy fuel in litres and check our economy in Miles per (imperial) Gallon. Nobody would think to buy paint in pints, but beer and milk is still (nominally) sold in pints. Everything is sold in kilos, except those things that aren't.....
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