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Old Mar 27th 2021, 3:21 pm
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Amazed the desginers and operations didn't forsee such a scenario, considering how important the canal is.



Read somewhere it should be renamed the MV Gandalf
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Old Mar 28th 2021, 5:39 am
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Still no real word that I've seen on how. I've read about high winds and power loss, which would make sense.
High winds on their own are bad but something else must have been happening to not correct or adjust.

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Still no real word that I've seen on how. I've read about high winds and power loss, which would make sense.
High winds on their own are bad but something else must have been happening to not correct or adjust.
Egyptian pilots went on board and the captain refused an escort boat. Other ships refused to travel in such weather conditions.
With $1billion cargo there is probably a bit of pressure from your employers.
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Egyptian pilots went on board and the captain refused an escort boat. Other ships refused to travel in such weather conditions.
With $1billion cargo there is probably a bit of pressure from your employers.
My sister sort of works in the industry and feedback on pilots is hilarious - along the lines of 'they just want food and cigs'.
Thanks for sharing though.
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My sister sort of works in the industry and feedback on pilots is hilarious - along the lines of 'they just want food and cigs'.
Thanks for sharing though.
My grandfather was a Suez Canal pilot from 1930 to 1950. When he got the job, you had to be either French or British to get the job - and you had to make a stab at speaking & understanding French, as that was the working language. By the 1940s, there were Armenians, Greeks & Jews getting pilots jobs.

Then, with revolution and war on the horizon, the Compagnie universelle du canal maritime de Suez was pressured to start appointing (shock, horror) Egyptians as pilots. That was when my grandfather took his early retirement, he was convinced the Company was going to the dogs ...
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My grandfather was a Suez Canal pilot from 1930 to 1950. When he got the job, you had to be either French or British to get the job - and you had to make a stab at speaking & understanding French, as that was the working language. By the 1940s, there were Armenians, Greeks & Jews getting pilots jobs.

Then, with revolution and war on the horizon, the Compagnie universelle du canal maritime de Suez was pressured to start appointing (shock, horror) Egyptians as pilots. That was when my grandfather took his early retirement, he was convinced the Company was going to the dogs ...
I shouldn't make generalisations about a nation, even if based on the last 10 years working in this part of the world, but if there was a nationality in this region that would tell you they are a qualified pilot to move a ship the size of a country in a straight line with no issues...and it turns out they can't park a mini in an empty space the size of the moon...they would be from........
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The Egyptian government's Maritime Code , Egyptian Supreme Court and the Suez Canal Authority state that Canal pilots and the Suez administration are not responsiblie parties even though the Egyptian pilots are the ones guiding the ships, the Egyptian government says all blame lies with the ship's captain / owners.

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The Egyptian government's Maritime Code , Egyptian Supreme Court and the Suez Canal Authority state that Canal pilots and the Suez administration are not responsiblie parties even though the Egyptian pilots are the ones guiding the ships, the Egyptian government says all blame lies with the ship's captain / owners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltdHRdtEHE4
So, if you don't use our pilots it is your fault, if you do use our pilots it is still your fault.
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So, if you don't use our pilots it is your fault, if you do use our pilots it is still your fault.
Yeah, it's a Heads I win Tails you lose scenario.
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Why didn't someone call









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Looks like they got the ship free.

https://www.cnn.com/africa/live-news...dc95f25aee13de



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Egyptian President had this to say" Egypt's Sisi says Egyptians succeeded in ending the Suez Canal crisis "


"CAIRO (Reuters) - Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi said on Monday that Egyptians had succeeded in ending the crisis of the container ship stranded in the Suez Canal.

And by restoring matters to their normal course, with Egyptian hands, the whole world can be assured of the path of its goods and needs that are carried through this navigational artery,” Sisi said on his official social media pages."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN2BL11E




So no mention of Boskalis and its subsidiary SMIT, the Dutch maritime services and salvage firm, who actually lead the salvage effort.

Grounded container vessel Ever Given successfully refloated in the Suez Canal by expert salvage team of Boskalis subsidiary SMIT Salvage
https://boskalis.com/press/press-rel...ed-it-off.html

SMIT was the company who led the effort to salvage the Costa Concordia and raised the Russian submarine the Kursk.

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Italy sent their tug boat the Carlo Magno.
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Egyptian President had this to say" Egypt's Sisi says Egyptians succeeded in ending the Suez Canal crisis "


"CAIRO (Reuters) - Egypt’s President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi said on Monday that Egyptians had succeeded in ending the crisis of the container ship stranded in the Suez Canal.

And by restoring matters to their normal course, with Egyptian hands, the whole world can be assured of the path of its goods and needs that are carried through this navigational artery,” Sisi said on his official social media pages."

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN2BL11E




So no mention of Boskalis and its subsidiary SMIT, the Dutch maritime services and salvage firm, who actually lead the salvage effort.

Grounded container vessel Ever Given successfully refloated in the Suez Canal by expert salvage team of Boskalis subsidiary SMIT Salvage
https://boskalis.com/press/press-rel...ed-it-off.html

SMIT was the company who led the effort to salvage the Costa Concordia and raised the Russian submarine the Kursk.

When it comes to dredging and marine stuff, you ring the Dutch and the Belgians. The End.

Gotta love these sorts of plays by politicians in the region though. Zero shame.
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