cresta57

Kirk Douglas
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51394855

Lion in Winter

103. Not bad at all.

Jerseygirl

aka Spartacus

kimilseung

I have just been reminded that Dalton Trumbo was credited as writer for Spartacus, despite him expecting to have to use a pseudonym, Douglas said no to the pseudonym, it helped to break the blacklist.

Lion in Winter

This.

Pulaski

I missed this last week - racing driver John Andretti, nephew of Mario Andretti and cousin of Michael and Jeff Andretti, died age 56 of colon cancer.

macliam

Joseph Shabalala, founder of Ladysmith Black Mambazo, dies aged 78
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51458177
Ulale ngoxolo, Rest in peace.

mikelincs

Caroline Flack, aged 40, Love Island presenter who stepped down after allegations she had beaten up he boyfriend has been found dead in he London Flat, she was also a winner of Strictly come dancing.
https://uk.style.yahoo.com/caroline-...174153767.html

fulwood

I didn't know much about her but terribly sad..only 40..

007Steve

An alleged man-beater.... Saves the UK taxpayer a trial & possible prison place.

Derrygal

I have never watched that show, but from what I have read it appears that her boyfriend/partner actually dropped the charges against her, but the prosecution was going ahead with the trial anyway. It is sad when anyone takes their own life.

macliam

Sorry Steve, that's an unacceptable comment - the key word is "alleged".

If I ever saw her on TV, I'm not aware of it - this "celeb" thing just passes me by. But obviously she was struggling with some demons if she took her own life. It's sad when anyone can't see a better way out than that.

007Steve

Neither me. However the distinction between her and millions of others with no discernible talent is being conflated by the media with their social status. Had she been living in a tower block on universal credit her actions would have been reported in a very different way, if at all.
In the New British Empire, Flack and others (e.g. Winkleman). can now be safely categorized as losers-without-value or social use.
It is, after all, how the English regard mental health and "winning"

Lion in Winter

Yes, but the converse does not apply. We don't get to vilify people in this way about whom we really know nothing real just because they are celebrities

spouse of scouse

No, it isn't. It might be how some English people think, it's not how all English people think.