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Old Apr 7th 2021, 8:02 pm
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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy View Post
I hesitated as to where to post this, but as I can't pin it directly on Brexit, I'll have to vent my spleen here.

I'm almost out of Marmite.

My usual supermarkets are definitely out so I'm probably looking at a +/- 140km round trip to restock.

Ok, there may be some beers, crisps, cheeses, sausages, biscuits, second hand books, possible van hire etc involved, but....
Nothing online? I know it's glass and all that, but no Amazon or equivalents?
https://www.amazon.com/Marmite-Yeast...EVY/ref=sr_1_5

FREE delivery: Saturday, April 10
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Old Apr 7th 2021, 8:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
Nothing online? I know it's glass and all that, but no Amazon or equivalents?
https://www.amazon.com/Marmite-Yeast...EVY/ref=sr_1_5

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Amazon & friends are available for sure, I take your hint, thank you, that's perfectly do-able (apart from maybe the price).

Marmite is in no way to be considered as non-essential.

I'm reasoning that I'm simply needing to justify a trip out whilst keeping within current travel regs.

I've not been down to that lovely store since November 2019...

With Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Allman Brothers, Bowie, full on in the car... 140km is nowhere near long enough for a serious shopping trip.

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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy View Post
140km is nowhere near long enough for a serious shopping trip. #committed2marmite
70km each way is nothing. Take a big list, phone ahead to check availability and pre-order, fill the car up and make it worthwhile. Get some for friends and neighbours, have fun and drive carefully.
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Old Apr 7th 2021, 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy View Post
I'm almost out of Marmite. ....
After the yeast shortage the supply interruption here seems to have ended. I bought two jars last week just to be safe.

They're only available in 125g size though.
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Old Apr 8th 2021, 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by BuckinghamshireBoy View Post
Amazon & friends are available for sure, I take your hint, thank you, that's perfectly do-able (apart from maybe the price).

Marmite is in no way to be considered as non-essential.

I'm reasoning that I'm simply needing to justify a trip out whilst keeping within current travel regs.

I've not been down to that lovely store since November 2019...

With Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Allman Brothers, Bowie, full on in the car... 140km is nowhere near long enough for a serious shopping trip.

#committed2marmite
How shelf-stable would you consider it to be? I have a jar in my cupboard that has an expiration date of Jan 2020 . I tend to ignore such things on products like this, but I do leave the place empty for months in the summer, and I set the AC to about 88F (31C) so it may not be at its best (outside reaches 115F at the peak). I love Marmite (on toast with butter) but I must admit, I go in phases and obviously I haven't had an 'on' phase for a while!
PS - it's not like you can just give it the 'sniff test' to see if it's still ok! ... I wonder what 'bad' Marmite smells like ... !!!

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How shelf-stable would you consider it to be? I have a jar in my cupboard that has an expiration date of Jan 2020 . I tend to ignore such things on products like this, but I do leave the place empty for months in the summer, and I set the AC to about 88F (31C) so it may not be at its best (outside reaches 115F at the peak). I love Marmite (on toast with butter) but I must admit, I go in phases and obviously I haven't had an 'on' phase for a while!
PS - it's not like you can just give it the 'sniff test' to see if it's still ok! ... I wonder what 'bad' Marmite smells like ... !!!
If it smells like Vegemite, it's off!
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How shelf-stable would you consider it to be? I have a jar in my cupboard that has an expiration date of Jan 2020 . I tend to ignore such things on products like this, but I do leave the place empty for months in the summer, and I set the AC to about 88F (31C) so it may not be at its best (outside reaches 115F at the peak). I love Marmite (on toast with butter) but I must admit, I go in phases and obviously I haven't had an 'on' phase for a while!
PS - it's not like you can just give it the 'sniff test' to see if it's still ok! ... I wonder what 'bad' Marmite smells like ... !!!
If it smells like Vegemite, it's off!

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Old Apr 8th 2021, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by Steerpike View Post
How shelf-stable would you consider it to be? I have a jar in my cupboard that has an expiration date of Jan 2020 . I tend to ignore such things on products like this, but I do leave the place empty for months in the summer, and I set the AC to about 88F (31C) so it may not be at its best (outside reaches 115F at the peak). I love Marmite (on toast with butter) but I must admit, I go in phases and obviously I haven't had an 'on' phase for a while!
PS - it's not like you can just give it the 'sniff test' to see if it's still ok! ... I wonder what 'bad' Marmite smells like ... !!!
What an excellent question!

My gut feel is that it's extremely shelf-stable, but would add a couple of riders: first that I don't expose my Marmite to the same temperature extremes as yourself, secondly I reckon to get through a 125g jar every 8-9 months, so am unlikely to hit the 'best before' wall.

That said, I just checked the date on my current jar and it is June 2020...

This now becomes interesting (only to me, obviously) as the jar in question has all kinds of labels added on in French and Dutch, which would imply that this particular jar was purchased locally, so that must have been some point within the last two and a half years.

Brit-shop sourced items don't have the multi-lingual "this is not hair-gel" warning labels on them.

I haven't been to the Brit-Shop since Nov 2019, and it is unthinkable that I would not have picked up a jar on that last beer/sausage/cheese essential goods shopping trip, so that makes me think that there might be a rogue jar of Marmite lurking somewhere in the kitchen.
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125 g jar lasts you 8 - 9 months! Doesn't last me 8 - 9 weeks!
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125 g jar lasts you 8 - 9 months! Doesn't last me 8 - 9 weeks!
OH is not a 'believer' and since moving here I no longer have to battle stepdaughter for the 'black gold'.

The figure of 8 - 9 months was roughly averaged out, consumption tends to fall off in the warmer seasons, which probably goes part way to explaining why I'm beginning to panic.
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Originally Posted by caretaker View Post
70km each way is nothing. Take a big list, phone ahead to check availability and pre-order, fill the car up and make it worthwhile. Get some for friends and neighbours, have fun and drive carefully.
It's a very small business. The pre-order side used to be do-able, that got canned (ostensibly due to Brexit) but the upside is that they update the blog on their website more than once every three months now.

"Yay, we had an incoming lorry from Ireland yesterday!" kind of thing.

The really racy posts mention two lorries...

Looking at the middle of next week now for the long haul down south.

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Total shift of subject, does anyone make kedgeree?

I know that it's traditionally considered to be a breakfast dish, but I sprung it on OH at suppertime a couple of months back, and she's now calling for it around once a week...
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Brit-shop sourced items don't have the multi-lingual "this is not hair-gel" warning labels on them.
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I sometimes think you can get a pretty interesting insight into the nature of a country by the warning labels they put on things! I've always imagined the US was the supreme ruler of nonsense when it came to warnings; there was the world-famous (I think!) case where a woman sued McDonalds for serving her a hot coffee (which I believe she spilled on herself and therefor sued McD), and as a result every beverage container thereafter carried the 'warning: contents may be hot' label. So in the US, we tend to have 'lawsuit avoidance' warnings. I imagine in Europe, perhaps it's less 'lawsuit avoidance' and more 'nanny state interference'. What is the backstory to the 'this is not hair-gel' comment?
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I sometimes think you can get a pretty interesting insight into the nature of a country by the warning labels they put on things! I've always imagined the US was the supreme ruler of nonsense when it came to warnings; there was the world-famous (I think!) case where a woman sued McDonalds for serving her a hot coffee (which I believe she spilled on herself and therefor sued McD), and as a result every beverage container thereafter carried the 'warning: contents may be hot' label. So in the US, we tend to have 'lawsuit avoidance' warnings. I imagine in Europe, perhaps it's less 'lawsuit avoidance' and more 'nanny state interference'. What is the backstory to the 'this is not hair-gel' comment?
I immediately thought of this news story https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/11/us/go...rnd/index.html
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I immediately thought of this news story https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/11/us/go...rnd/index.html
Oh my, thank you for sharing that! I haven't had such a good laugh in a while (thus, you can count me in the column of people who laughed wholeheartedly at the woman and had no sympathy ... she didn't die, after all!).

Just a few priceless extracts from the must-read article: "... possibly the most unfortunate haircare mixup in history. Instead of using regular hairspray on her hair, she grabbed a can of Gorilla Glue spray adhesive and went to town." ... "We wake up every morning in a world where super gluing your hair to your head is not the worst career choice you could make." (the latter refers to the fact that idiots posting such things on the internet actually result in career boosts!).

Sadly this is way off-topic for the food thread but I think I'll post it over in WTF America since I think it's an hilarious story and also an interesting commentary on our times ...

Edit - here's the thread I created over in WTF America ....
https://britishexpats.com/forum/trai.../#post12992888

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Old Apr 9th 2021, 1:22 pm
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... What is the backstory to the 'this is not hair-gel' comment?
It was admittedly a bit of a throw-away line, although the story pointed to by lizzyq concerning the "Gorilla glue" was still fairly fresh in my mind.

Also seeing the text on this label brought back some memories, as I used to joke about the labels on Marks & Spencers mens briefs including the text "may contain nuts".

What grates albeit just a tiny bit with me is when the added-on label contains a translation of the ingredients, randomly slapped on anywhere other than over the original language list of ingredients, often obscuring other useful information, such as recommended dilution, cooking times etc.
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