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Old Dec 6th 2013, 9:19 pm
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Interesting draw: U.S. definitely screwed....Ghana, Portugal and Germany..ouch.
Brazil sitting pretty with Croatia, Mexico and Cameroon.
England faces Uruguay (always tough), Costa Rica and Italy. Full draw here:
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/final-d...=1386350803461

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I agree the US are screwed. I don't think England are much better off. Never beaten Italy, Uruguay or Costa Rica in an international tournament. If it was in Europe, I'd fancy us going through as runners up. In South America, we'll do well to advance.
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I agree the US are screwed. I don't think England are much better off. Never beaten Italy, Uruguay or Costa Rica in an international tournament. If it was in Europe, I'd fancy us going through as runners up. In South America, we'll do well to advance.
Agreed very tough road for England too. Brazil should do very well.
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The US and the UK will be on the first planes back after the group stages.

I'm not quite sure how the lowly ranked and performed France, managed to get in a pot that didn't meet a single decent country though.

I think group H will be interesting, South Korea,, Russia and Belgium are all with a shot.

Argentina have possibly the easiest group to contend with.

Potential Argentina v Brazil final could be good though.
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The US and the UK will be on the first planes back after the group stages.

I'm not quite sure how the lowly ranked and performed France, managed to get in a pot that didn't meet a single decent country though.

I think group H will be interesting, South Korea,, Russia and Belgium are all with a shot.

Argentina have possibly the easiest group to contend with.

Potential Argentina v Brazil final could be good though.
That final would be pretty damn good. No love lost between those two.
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I'm not quite sure how the lowly ranked and performed France, managed to get in a pot that didn't meet a single decent country though.
They're jammy SOB's, that's how! 4 weeks ago it was odds on they wouldn't even qualify and now they effectively have a free ticket to the last 16. I just hope the team implodes again as seems to be a trait with French teams in any sport.
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Can't see England qualifying.

Argentina and Brazil have it easy. Hope neither of those two win. Anyone else I'm okay with.
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Tough draw for the USA but a great group for them to build even more interest in the game. If they can get out of that group, or at least fail marginally, they will boost the US profile internationally again.

England's draw is tricky but the order of the games pleases me. Italy first, that's always a draw. The Italians never put too much on the table first game. Then we have Uruguay, whose star player we know well. Even if we lose, I think we can do enough to make the last game worth playing. Then, we play the easier one, knowing what our target is for goal difference, so if we need a 3-0 win to advance we can go for it, knowing the other two have a tough game.

I don't have any hopes for England this time, even before the draw. But we can get out of this group.
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Now as the Premier is coming towards its final games, I believe that it is time for the English National Team to start getting organised for the World Cup.

Of course our players need some rest first, but we should start building the team after their rest, to try and do well at this World Cup.

At least we should aim to reach the last 4 of the competition.
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Now as the Premier is coming towards its final games, I believe that it is time for the English National Team to start getting organised for the World Cup.

Of course our players need some rest first, but we should start building the team after their rest, to try and do well at this World Cup.

At least we should aim to reach the last 4 of the competition.
I am not sure I agree Prometheus, I think we will be lucky to get out of the group and the SF is beyond optomistic dreaming. Therefore, I would look to blood some young talent and do away with the golden (lead in terms of achievement) generation.

For example left back - there is no point in taking Cole so take Shaw. Right back likewise with Johnson take take a youngster.

I would take the likes of Shaw, Smalling, Chambers, Turner, Caulker, Sturridge, Sterling, Barclay, Lallana, Wiltshire et al and try to build for 4 years time. This means that something like 28 should probably be our upper age limit i.e. Rooknee and Milner's age.

Carrick, Lampard, Cole, Gerrard etc are going to struggle to be around in 2 years let alone 4 so let's say bye-bye and build for the future. Need to be ruthless now me thinks for longer term gain.
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You got me thinking Prometheus, how about a starting eleven something along these lines?

Hart;
Chambers, Smalling, Cahill, Baines;
Milner, Lallana, Barclay, Sterling;
Sturridge, Rooney;

Won't win anything but could develop into a useful side over the next few years - bags of potential
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Originally Posted by Garbatellamike View Post
You got me thinking Prometheus, how about a starting eleven something along these lines?

Hart;
Chambers, Smalling, Cahill, Baines;
Milner, Lallana, Barclay, Sterling;
Sturridge, Rooney;

Won't win anything but could develop into a useful side over the next few years - bags of potential
Great idea Garbatellamike,
but I cannot come up with my chosen 11 like this.
I have to carefully think about this, and I will come back with my chosen 11 soon.
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Brazil Squad:

Goalkeepers: Julio Cesar (Toronto FC, on loan from QPR), Jefferson (Botafogo), Victor (Atletico Mineiro).
Defenders: Marcelo (Real Madrid), Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (AS Roma), Maxwell and Thiago Silva (both Paris St-Germain), David Luiz (Chelsea), Dante (Bayern Munich), Henrique (Napoli).
Midfielders: Paulinho (Tottenham Hotspur), Ramires (Chelsea), Willian (Chelsea), Oscar (Chelsea), Hernanes (Inter Milan), Luiz Gustavo (Wolfsburg), Fernandinho (Manchester City).
Forwards: Bernard (Shakhtar Donetsk), Neymar (Barcelona), Fred (Fluminense), Jo (Atletico Mineiro), Hulk (Zenit St Petersburg).

No Coutinho or Lucas
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Originally Posted by Garbatellamike View Post
Brazil Squad:

Goalkeepers: Julio Cesar (Toronto FC, on loan from QPR), Jefferson (Botafogo), Victor (Atletico Mineiro).
Defenders: Marcelo (Real Madrid), Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (AS Roma), Maxwell and Thiago Silva (both Paris St-Germain), David Luiz (Chelsea), Dante (Bayern Munich), Henrique (Napoli).
Midfielders: Paulinho (Tottenham Hotspur), Ramires (Chelsea), Willian (Chelsea), Oscar (Chelsea), Hernanes (Inter Milan), Luiz Gustavo (Wolfsburg), Fernandinho (Manchester City).
Forwards: Bernard (Shakhtar Donetsk), Neymar (Barcelona), Fred (Fluminense), Jo (Atletico Mineiro), Hulk (Zenit St Petersburg).

No Coutinho or Lucas
That midfield looks....uninspiring. No Lucas Moura either, I guess we'll get the same niggly Brazil team that Dunga had, using fouls to break up the oppositions rhythm while grinding out results.

A forward line of Fred and Jo is not good (they could have done with Diego Costa), everything's on Neymar and I wonder if a European season has taken it out of him.
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Hart Foster Forster

Baines Jagielka Cahill Johnson Smalling Shaw Jones

Gerrard Milner Lampard Lallana Sterling Wilshire Henderson Ox-C Barkley

Rooknee Sturridge Welbeck Lambert

looks about right to me although Caulker for Jones maybe?
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