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Old Jun 21st 2012, 3:52 pm
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Seems like Rangers want to join the English league now.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/r...094746737.html
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Old Jun 21st 2012, 8:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Macca67 View Post
Dave, you took a long time thinking about this one.

Would the travel be any more difficult than a southern team traveling to Carlisle, Newcastle or Sunderland? Also, given the number of Jocks living in the south I think you'd be surprised how many fans would attend the games.

As for smaller teams traveling to long away games just think about the numbers teams take to those grounds when they meet a bigger club in the FA Cup - usually far greater than the numbers for home games. Nice day out in my book.
Good points Macca.
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Old Jun 21st 2012, 9:36 pm
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Originally Posted by mikelincs View Post
Seems like Rangers want to join the English league now.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/r...094746737.html
"Bury takeover talk"

I think it would great if Bury buy what is left of Rangers and play in the Scottish first division.
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Old Jun 22nd 2012, 9:06 am
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Begining to look lie they may get the boot from the SPL, and have to start in division 3.

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Begining to look lie they may get the boot from the SPL, and have to start in division 3.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/t...063913909.html
It was not clear in the article, are they saying no to the division 1 plan. or no to Rangers playing in the premier division (I think the division 1 plan was for admittance to the premier, but immediate relegation as a punishment)
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It was not clear in the article, are they saying no to the division 1 plan. or no to Rangers playing in the premier division (I think the division 1 plan was for admittance to the premier, but immediate relegation as a punishment)
Rangrs want straight back to the SPL, but this has to be agreed by 8 of the 12 teams, and it does look like there are at least 4 or 5 who are likely to vote NO. If 5 say no, then Rangers will join back in Div 3.
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Originally Posted by mikelincs View Post
Rangers want straight back to the SPL, but this has to be agreed by 8 of the 12 teams, and it does look like there are at least 4 or 5 who are likely to vote NO. If 5 say no, then Rangers will join back in Div 3.
Aberdeen,Celtic,Dundee united,Hearts(a certain NO),Hibs & Motherwell all expected to say "NO" Killie & Rangers will say yes(why Rangers oldco gets a vote is just crazy)... rest not known!

p.s 3rd div. is not automatic, they need to apply!! I think 3rd div will end the newco Rangers for good... Green is not going to pump millions in to keep them running for the next 4 years!
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Aberdeen,Celtic,Dundee united,Hearts(a certain NO),Hibs & Motherwell all expected to say "NO" Killie & Rangers will say yes(why Rangers oldco gets a vote is just crazy)... rest not known!

p.s 3rd div. is not automatic, they need to apply!! I think 3rd div will end the newco Rangers for good... Green is not going to pump millions in to keep them running for the next 4 years!
Will there be any safety objections to division 3? Wouldn't Rangers away crowd be bigger than most stadiums can hold, maybe all except Queens Park?
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Will there be any safety objections to division 3? Wouldn't Rangers away crowd be bigger than most stadiums can hold, maybe all except Queens Park?
Fair point but if Rangers newco go to the 3rd div there will be a massive drop in support(lack of interest in playing Arbroath etc & glory huneters will fade away) But for sure it would be a massive headache for many of these small towns and their Police forces.

On the plus side it will bring a welcome income to the lower leagues and Rangers will be forced to bring on young talent!

A total mess that was all brought on by Rangers, all of this is their doing yet "sorry" seems that hardest word(it everyone elses fault apparently). Perhaps it would be better if they just cease to excist?!
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How can the new owner of a newco, demand the players of the oldco transfer over?

surely once the old company is gone, the contracts are null and void?
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How can the new owner of a newco, demand the players of the oldco transfer over?

surely once the old company is gone, the contracts are null and void?
he says he hopes all players will sign up, as per their last contracts.
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he says he hopes all players will sign up, as per their last contracts.
he's threatened legal action.
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It just gets worse..

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/r...132707952.html
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How can the new owner of a newco, demand the players of the oldco transfer over?

surely once the old company is gone, the contracts are null and void?
In my ignorance I assumed that the administrators/liquidators would be under an obligation to get as much money for the assets as possible, and I also assume that the contracted players would be amongst the biggest assets.
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In my ignorance I assumed that the administrators/liquidators would be under an obligation to get as much money for the assets as possible, and I also assume that the contracted players would be amongst the biggest assets.
That's probably an accounting trick to boost the balance sheet. I'd have thought the players - as employees, would be under contract with the 'old' company and as a result of it ceasing to trade those contracts would be terminated.
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