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Boiler Jul 14th 2019 2:51 am

So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...illiams-tennis


Let us for a minute extend the benefit of the doubt to the 12% of men who believe they could take a point from Serena Williams in a tennis match, no doubt further emboldened by her defeat in the Wimbledon final.

For who can say what manner of fugue state they fell into as they answered a simple polling question? Could they have collectively imagined, as they pictured the holder of 23 grand slam titles shaping up to serve, a freak calamity overtaking her? A sinkhole opening up on her side of the net, perhaps, or a thunderbolt sent by a jealous athletic god; or, in more sinister fashion, a tripwire rigged up by an incel saboteur to fell her as she rushed in for the volley.

No: social media chatter suggested that what many of these tsars of self-belief were relying on was an unforced error – specifically a double fault. Such pyrrhic victory would not, it seems, worry them; a point, after all, is a point.

But we walk a tightrope when we condemn such apparently delusional thinking in the sporting arena; for where else are we supposed to indulge our fantasies of combining physical prowess, technical skill and mental toughness in pursuit of lifting a gilded trophy above our heads?
Tennis was not may main game and I was not very good, and admit my first thought was a double fault. But if we exclude that and at my best and a bit of luck then yes I think I could. But just a point.


Garbatellamike Jul 20th 2019 10:06 am

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 
Given my knee and back problems combined with never having been very good at tennis, i declare myself in the 88 per cent..... not a chance

Former Lancastrian Jul 20th 2019 10:48 am

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 
Well growing up Oooop North only posh kids played tennis so I am also in the 88%. WTF is tennis anyway isn't it just a bigger version of table tennis?

BritInParis Jul 20th 2019 1:47 pm

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 
Didn’t we do all this already in the 1970s with Billie Jean King et al.? There’s a reason why we have separate men and women’s competitions in almost all sporting disciplines. Serena herself has said she wouldn’t win even a point against Andy Murray.

Boiler Jul 20th 2019 2:04 pm

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 
I assume it has something to do with equality, taking into account the source.

Garbatellamike Jul 20th 2019 2:08 pm

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 

Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 12712826)
Didn’t we do all this already in the 1970s with Billie Jean King et al.? There’s a reason why we have separate men and women’s competitions in almost all sporting disciplines. Serena herself has said she wouldn’t win even a point against Andy Murray.

yes indeed the Bobby Riggs fiascos and don't forget the early 90s farce of Connors vs Navratilova too.

spouse of scouse Jul 20th 2019 2:11 pm

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 
I was wrong, there is such a thing as a stupid question :rolleyes:

Garbatellamike Jul 20th 2019 3:15 pm

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12712833)
I was wrong, there is such a thing as a stupid question :rolleyes:

that's the first time you've seen a silly question on BE???? :ohmy:

spouse of scouse Jul 20th 2019 4:03 pm

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 

Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 12712847)
that's the first time you've seen a silly question on BE???? :ohmy:

Well I suppose I've asked a few in my time :whistle:

Gordon Barlow Jul 20th 2019 4:58 pm

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12712798)
Well growing up Oooop North only posh kids played tennis so I am also in the 88%. WTF is tennis anyway isn't it just a bigger version of table tennis?

But isn't "table tennis" only a posh way of saying "ping-pong"?

Garbatellamike Jul 20th 2019 8:59 pm

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12712856)
Well I suppose I've asked a few in my time :whistle:

You are not alone 🤗

Scamp Jul 24th 2019 1:32 pm

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 
I don't reckon I could. I'd have to get really lucky in fairness. So there's a chance.
But that's like saying could I beat Rory McIlroy for one hole in 18. Maybe, I'd have to get lucky, so there's a chance.

I respect the 12% who said they could, that's confidence and ambition and takes a lot of courage to back yourself like that. It's just another reason why men are better.

spouse of scouse Jul 24th 2019 2:21 pm

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 12714363)


I respect the 12% who said they could, that's confidence and ambition and takes a lot of courage to back yourself like that. It's just another reason why men are better.

You are a card :lol:

BritInParis Jul 24th 2019 6:11 pm

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 

Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 12712876)
But isn't "table tennis" only a posh way of saying "ping-pong"?

No, that’s “whiff-whaff”.

JamesM Jul 25th 2019 12:24 am

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 
99.9% of men have no chance.

Unless Serena double faulted or the individual played tennis to a county standard.

The average British male wouldn't even hit her or connect with her second serve. Then on the other side she would have no problem dealing with theirs.

People don't realise how good these tennis players are. You need to have had years and years of practice to read the serve and develop the anticipation to get to a ball that skids and spins.

Boiler Jul 25th 2019 1:30 am

Re: So, guys, you reckon you could take a point off Serena Williams?
 
I remember playing in mixed fun Tournaments, they would pair the best Male with worst Female and so on So I usually ended up playing with a solid Female who played in Club competitions. And we often won as the smack it at the weaker player was nothing like as successful. My problem was I was erratic but if my first serve went in it was OK.

So thinking about a good Club player not County who had a passable first serve I think that would be the best opportunity for getting a point. Or more?. I remember seeing Serena at Wimbledon in her early years, much more apparent how she over powered female opponents, they seemed half her size. She would not be able to do that so easily against somebody who was taller, faster but not as skilful.

Used to be in Squash you could only get a point if you held serve, so if you were up against someone much better than you getting serve and then getting a point was very difficult. They changed it to more the Tennis style and then it became very rare for somebody to be completely wiped, you knew you were going to lose so if you had a high risk opportunity you went for it, you only needed one to go in and you had a point.


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