Originally Posted by Cainess

Just to echo the sentiments, Southampton have totally and utterly outplayed us twice this season, and we are very fortunate to have stolen 3 of the 6 points on offer in the fixtures....for the first time this season, the prime culprit for our defeat was sat in the manager's seat on the sidelines- hideous 'formation', little more than a shameful admission of fear of Koeman's team on LvG's part, wasting di Maria in a forward role and likewise Rooney in a deep role against a powerful 3-man Saints midfield (Davis, Schneiderlin & Wanyama) which easily contained any threat we carried; no Falcao even in the squad, never mind the bench despite him not being 'injured'...what's that about??!

Saints are up there with the Chavs and citeh as the best sides we've played this season, and anyone who thinks they don't have what it takes to finish top 4 is simply deceiving themselves- they are 3rd on merit, a hard-working, well organised, skilful side, coached by a man who has me wondering if United signed up the wrong Dutchman as manager in the summer. Twice Koeman has totally outflanked LvG now, with supposedly 'lesser' players.... can we please have Fonte (in place of any of Jones, Smalling (awful today, awful....) or Evans), can we have Schneiderlin (better than Fellaini, younger than Carrick)....United were dreadful, but let's not take anything away from Saints, who were excellent.

Fair play Scamp- no complaints whatever about the result.

United will have a fight to stay in the top 4 on this form- players rotated out of position, for no beneficial reason; players omitted from the squad when their 'talents' would have be useful; defenders who cannot be relied upon not to be stupid, both with possession and with rash tackles....there's plenty of work to be done and things to improve...to have no shots on target at all in ANY game, much less a home fixture, is an utter disgrace. I hope never to witness such dross again from a United side at OT. Disgraceful showing. VERY unhappy.

Originally Posted by ededed

I don't think Southampton were excellent at all. It was a shit game between one poor team and one team who didn't want to get beaten and played very deep, soaking up any limited attacking threat (ha ha). If I'd gone to the match, I'd have been hallway home when you lot scored.

Koeman clearly realised at half time we weren't going to shoot for the whole game so sent a couple of lads forward to see if they could nick something and they did - I don't blame him. The days of sides getting steamrollered at OT are long gone. 10 years ago we'd have won that match by half time - with all our attacking options we can't even make your keeper put his beer and fag down to pick the ball up. 3 at the back with our defence is embarrassing.

So no, not lucky - just don't assume beating United at Old Trafford means anything any more - Chelsea or City would have scored 3 or 4 yesterday - we were lucky to get 0.

Originally Posted by JamesM

I went snowboarding yesterday and forgot to record it.

How bad were we?

Originally Posted by Scamp

If Pelle's strike had gone in instead of rebounding it would have been a really good, nice goal. Still, can't have it all. We took our one chance on target. We had a similar (if not equal) number of attempts on goal. I don't think we were ever really under the kind of pressure you would expect at OT, we weren't scrambling the ball clear for 90 minutes and latching on to a mistake to steal a goal.

Originally Posted by ededed

Exactly, and that's what is so frustrating. I don't mind losing - but when you lose because you are so arrogant to think turning up guarantees a win, that pisses me off no end. Saints deserved the win - but it would have been nice to make you work for it.

Originally Posted by pommybird

YOU DID WHAT??!!

To be honest we were poor, but I've seen worse from us this season.

Lloris and Kane were immense. Townsend was very poor (apart from the cross for the goal), Eriksen did not have a good game and the subs (Capoue and Soldado), were their usual dross.

Still, beating Chelsea, losing to palace, all in a typical week for Spurs. Burnley replay next....let's see if we can bag some silverware this season! COYS!

Originally Posted by JamesM

United and Southampton to pick up 3rd and 4th. Not that their squads are any better than Spurs and Arsenal but the lack of games they have in other competitions means they'll remain fresh.

Originally Posted by ededed

Exactly, and that's what is so frustrating. I don't mind losing - but when you lose because you are so arrogant to think turning up guarantees a win, that pisses me off no end. Saints deserved the win - but it would have been nice to make you work for it.

Originally Posted by zargof

What has happened to Jazzy Jeff? I thought he was supposed to be the next big thing, but it seems van Gaal doesn't rate him.

Originally Posted by Cainess

Who he?!?

Originally Posted by zargof

What has happened to Jazzy Jeff? I thought he was supposed to be the next big thing, but it seems van Gaal doesn't rate him.

Originally Posted by pommybird

Let's face it, we're only just over half way so everything is still open at this stage.....except Arsenal of course, a top 4 finish by them has clearly been mandated by the Queen, the Pope and God, regardless of how crap they play throughout the season

Originally Posted by pommybird

Just came across this....

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7FDz81CEAEsO8d.jpg

Don't think I'd ever go to those lengths. So come on, spill, what's the most extreme display of devotion you've ever made to your club, over the years?

And going out shopping in your full club kit including socks and shin pads does not count.