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Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by Cainess
(Post 12317944)
Not sure why anyone sees any attraction in Barkley- totally over-rated, mostly by himself. Everton have just bought three times the player in Sigurdsson.
By the same token, Martinez was constantly bigging him up as amazing and gave him the freedom to play how he wanted. Now Koeman has come in and publicly called him out as having to work harder, which has upset him and he just hasn't really performed in Koeman's team. Maybe a move to a different team with a different manager will get the best out of him, I don't know. But I do agree Sigurdsson will bring more to the Everton team than Barkley has. |
Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by Cainess
(Post 12317944)
You SHOULD be worried...in the Europa League Final, he was a complete liability, constantly caught out of position. Looks very comfortable on the ball, but you already have a couple of those types in Vertonghen & Alderweireld.... :blink:
I think Poch wants to spend a year or two coaching him up. Vertonghen and Alderweireld are both top quality defenders but I think also starting to get to the wrong end of 20. I tend to think defenders get better with experience but we do need someone at the back with a lot of pace for those bigger pitches. |
Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 12318014)
The Colombian John Stones.
:rofl: nice one! In fairness to Stones he may not be very good but he's a long way from the worst centre back we've had |
Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by zargof
(Post 12317990)
Maybe a move to a different team with a different manager will get the best out of him, I don't know. But I do agree Sigurdsson will bring more to the Everton team than Barkley has. If Barkley comes to Spurs he'll have to work hard to earn/keep his place. He can't be worse than Sissoko in the attitude department. I'm relieved this Sigurdsson thing is done and dusted. With Cahill getting sent off and Rondon only getting two minutes my Fantasy team already has enough liabilities. |
Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by Garbatellamike
(Post 12318019)
:rofl: nice one!
In fairness to Stones he may not be very good but he's a long way from the worst centre back we've had I think Stones needs experience and coaching also. The raw attributes are there. The only centre half I ever saw who was complete from the get go was a certain Ledley King. Just was born with kryptonite in his knees. |
Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 12318033)
Yeah. It wasn't meant to be a dig.
I think Stones needs experience and coaching also. The raw attributes are there. The only centre half I ever saw who was complete from the get go was a certain Ledley King. Just was born with kryptonite in his knees. |
Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Sounds like Coutinho never wants to play for Liverpool again in order to force his move through to Barca. :lol:
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Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by JamesM
(Post 12318014)
The Colombian John Stones.
I think Poch wants to spend a year or two coaching him up. Vertonghen and Alderweireld are both top quality defenders but I think also starting to get to the wrong end of 20. I tend to think defenders get better with experience but we do need someone at the back with a lot of pace for those bigger pitches. |
Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by Garbatellamike
(Post 12318104)
bollocks - you talk about shit centre backs and now we are trying to sign Johnnie Evans - it's your fault James ;)
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Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by IJ157
(Post 12318123)
Quite surprised to see that news report.
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Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by Garbatellamike
(Post 12318104)
bollocks - you talk about shit centre backs and now we are trying to sign Johnnie Evans - it's your fault James ;)
Oh, and it's Jonny (no 'h') Evans.... he's headed to Russia next summer with the GAWA... ;) |
Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by Garbatellamike
(Post 12318104)
bollocks - you talk about shit centre backs and now we are trying to sign Johnnie Evans - it's your fault James ;)
When Evans is worth more than £18m you know we're heading for disaster. He won't be the worst centre back you've ever had, but there has to be better value out there. He had potential but West Brom is his level. |
Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by ededed
(Post 12318271)
£18m bid rejected. There's so much wrong with that sentence I don't know where to begin.
When Evans is worth more than £18m you know we're heading for disaster. He won't be the worst centre back you've ever had, but there has to be better value out there. He had potential but West Brom is his level. |
Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
(Post 12318287)
I think City are interested in Evans to meet the home-grown players quota. 8 out of the 25-man squad if I recall correctly.
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Re: British football thread 2017-2018
Originally Posted by ededed
(Post 12318301)
But he's a foreigner :sneaky:
EFL & EPL home-grown players rule |
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