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BristolUK Aug 7th 2021 1:26 pm

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July 14th

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13029338)
Is it just me or does this sound like his annual wage will keep the club within fair play boundaries but that he'll really be earning five years of pay over two years of playing and it won't be a pay cut when that's factored in?

Latest newspaper report...

Laporta said Messi had agreed in principle first to a two-year deal with payments over five years then to a five-year deal – although the expectation was that he would probably play only two.
Transfer still not happened yet.

Daily Express says ManU made an offer. :lol:

Former Lancastrian Aug 7th 2021 2:45 pm

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13038158)
July 14th

Latest newspaper report...

Transfer still not happened yet.

Daily Express says ManU made an offer. :lol:

Phil Jones, Jesse Lingard and Brandon Williams for Messi sounds like a fair deal to me.

BristolUK Aug 7th 2021 3:13 pm

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Latest bit of nonsense...Daily Mail reports Aguero not happy and asking his lawyers to check for an escape route :blink:

DaveLovesDee Aug 7th 2021 3:51 pm

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13038176)
Latest bit of nonsense...Daily Mail reports Aguero not happy and asking his lawyers to check for an escape route :blink:

He signed a contract, make him honour it...

BristolUK Aug 7th 2021 7:33 pm

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 13038182)
He signed a contract, make him honour it...

Part 3, Section D, sub-section iv, paragraph 5(1)(b) says contract is null and void in the event my mate Messi leaves within the first year.

And then there's the Sanity Clause. ;)

DaveLovesDee Aug 7th 2021 9:54 pm

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13038228)
Part 3, Section D, sub-section iv, paragraph 5(1)(b) says contract is null and void in the event my mate Messi leaves within the first year.

And then there's the Sanity Clause. ;)

You can't fool me, there ain't no sanity clause....

BristolUK Aug 7th 2021 11:52 pm

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 13038260)
You can't fool me, there ain't no sanity clause....

Marx is getting everywhere again.

SpoogleDrummer Aug 8th 2021 2:41 am

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 13038260)
You can't fool me, there ain't no sanity clause....

Then who did I see mommy kissing under the mistletoe?

DaveLovesDee Aug 8th 2021 5:42 am

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Originally Posted by SpoogleDrummer (Post 13038304)
Then who did I see mommy kissing under the mistletoe?

Your other mommy? :p

DaveLovesDee Aug 8th 2021 5:44 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13038275)
Marx is getting everywhere again.


Scamp Aug 8th 2021 6:06 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13037555)
Or Messi to Southampton and that's why they sold Ings, to raise some funds. ;)

Messi has always been a bit holier than thou (a Barca trait) so why not end up a Saint? :rofl:

I'd have him, but he'll have to prove himself before he gets in before Redmond.


Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 13037557)
so Grealish definitely in and hopefully that means we can flog Sterling to some other suckers

We'll have him, but he'd be behind Messi (just) in the pecking order to try and get a place ahead of Redmond.


Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13037599)
Anyone care to predict how many days it will be before it all works out and Messi signs a new Barcelona contract?

I thought this, but unless he agrees to play for nothing (which he quite comfortably could I imagine), I don't see it happening.

Great test of 'love' for a club, being a bazillionaire and can only play for the club you 'love' if your sponsors keep you earning loads, not the club.

DaveLovesDee Aug 8th 2021 6:07 am

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Congrats to City on their Community Shield win yesterday... No, not THAT City:p


BristolUK Aug 8th 2021 12:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 13038322)
I thought this, but unless he agrees to play for nothing (which he quite comfortably could I imagine), I don't see it happening.

I'm still thinking the original 5yr/2yr deal was within the rules, otherwise they'd not have agreed it. So Messi could accept he has to wait the full 5 years even if he only plays for 2. That's the bit I think has changed making it not within rules. He wants it in t he 2 years.

It's bad for La Liga to lose him so they could also say the Pandemic is exceptional so normal rules don't apply to an exceptional event. They already have a sponsor deal lined up and Barca "can't accept it without guarantees" so just make a guarantee and problem solved.

One other thing...isn't it funny how the salary breaking the rules only became an issue at the exact moment his contract ran out? :sneaky:

civilservant Aug 8th 2021 6:32 pm

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One other thing...isn't it funny how the salary breaking the rules only became an issue at the exact moment his contract ran out?
Not really. La Ligas financial rules are 'in advance' rather than retroactive, so it really is only an issue at the beginning of the period.

BristolUK Aug 9th 2021 12:24 am

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Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 13038458)
Not really. La Ligas financial rules are 'in advance' rather than retroactive, so it really is only an issue at the beginning of the period.

But with a supposedly lower salary rate from what would be now onwards, how does that break the rule now but not last season when it was more? :confused:

Scamp Aug 9th 2021 8:56 am

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**** knows but I'm not buying the tears.

Faxed them to leave last year.
Cries his eyes out this year because he won't get hundreds of millions to stay at Barca.

Play for a euro a week if you're that bothered. The club will exist without you and if you demand huge money, they probably won't exist for much longer. If you 'love' them, then leaving is the only option if you won't work for nothing.

civilservant Aug 9th 2021 11:38 am

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But with a supposedly lower salary rate from what would be now onwards, how does that break the rule now but not last season when it was more? https://britishexpats.com/forum/imag...s/confused.gif
This is a good article on the topic:

https://www.chaseyoursport.com/Footb...explained/2867

BristolUK Aug 9th 2021 3:35 pm

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Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 13038611)
This is a good article on the topic

Yes, thanks for that.
So this bit is key then..."La Liga had planned on bringing fans back to the stadiums but the plan did not go through. This resulted in no reduced debt for the clubs and increased financial problems."

The league has essentially set a target which assumed income from ticket sales. With that unplanned for loss of income it doesn't seem fair to expect the same target to be met.

Scamp Aug 10th 2021 4:50 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13038730)
Yes, thanks for that.
So this bit is key then..."La Liga had planned on bringing fans back to the stadiums but the plan did not go through. This resulted in no reduced debt for the clubs and increased financial problems."

The league has essentially set a target which assumed income from ticket sales. With that unplanned for loss of income it doesn't seem fair to expect the same target to be met.

La Liga is doing what a league should, seeking investment and whatnot.

The main clubs, Barca and Real Madrid have overspent for decades and are now both in so much debt, it'll be eye-watering numbers needing to be saved / invested to get them out of it. Whilst over there I did the stadium tour at the Camp Nou and frankly, it's pretty terrible as far as a stadium goes for one of the biggest clubs in the world.

BristolUK Aug 10th 2021 11:04 am

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An alternative view of players' agents
https://www.theguardian.com/football...k-will-buckley

DaveLovesDee Aug 10th 2021 5:59 pm

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I guess Chelsea's next manager might be buying Abraham back for stupid money in a few years time... After all, Utd did the same with Pogba, and now Chelsea appear to have re-signed Lukaku it seems. Wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run to just loan out players to Italian clubs?


Garbatellamike Aug 10th 2021 7:31 pm

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 13039198)
I guess Chelsea's next manager might be buying Abraham back for stupid money in a few years time... After all, Utd did the same with Pogba, and now Chelsea appear to have re-signed Lukaku it seems. Wouldn't it be cheaper in the long run to just loan out players to Italian clubs?

well to be fair - selling Pogba for 1 mil and buying him back for 89 mil was one of Ed Woodward's better transfer deals :p :scarper:

civilservant Aug 11th 2021 11:35 am

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Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 13039225)
well to be fair - selling Pogba for 1 mil and buying him back for 89 mil was one of Ed Woodward's better transfer deals :p :scarper:

Even better, we'll likely lose him on a free next year too.

You can't make it up.

BristolUK Aug 12th 2021 12:26 am

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Unai Emery still looks like Rigsby wearing one of Reggie Perrin's suits.

Garbatellamike Aug 12th 2021 10:09 am

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Originally Posted by civilservant (Post 13039404)
Even better, we'll likely lose him on a free next year too.

You can't make it up.

good point - well presented
I'd forgotten that

Garbatellamike Aug 13th 2021 10:38 am

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Season kicks off this evening guys

last chance to amend you FF teams

Arse vs Bees to kick us off

kimilseung Aug 13th 2021 8:56 pm

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Brentford, top of the league. Should have been a foul on the goalie for that second goal though.

civilservant Aug 13th 2021 8:58 pm

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Barry Glendenning had Brentford nailed on to beat Arsenal. Seems he was right.

DaveLovesDee Aug 13th 2021 11:08 pm

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Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 13040251)
Brentford, top of the league. Should have been a foul on the goalie for that second goal though.

And no striker started for Arsenal..

Garbatellamike Aug 13th 2021 11:16 pm

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 13040279)
And no striker started for Arsenal..

Isn't Balogun a striker then?

BristolUK Aug 13th 2021 11:57 pm

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Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 13040251)
Brentford, top of the league. Should have been a foul on the goalie for that second goal though.

Yep.
I was actually quite impressed with Arsenal. Well, Tierney, Smith-Rowe and Saka.

If they could add a couple of experienced players - without baggage - they could do well in the long run.

What about a not so cheeky bid for Bernardo Silva? Guardiola said he wants to leave.

DaveLovesDee Aug 14th 2021 12:05 am

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Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 13040284)
Isn't Balogun a striker then?

I thought he was a midfielder, but apparently, you're right. He's a youth-team player.

SpoogleDrummer Aug 14th 2021 3:14 am

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What in the **** are Southampton doing? They've lost at least 3 of their first team squad from last season and none of them are at Liverpool now. Are they re-investing the money at least or just paying back the loan the owner gave them?

Garbatellamike Aug 14th 2021 10:13 am

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 13040295)
I thought he was a midfielder, but apparently, you're right. He's a youth-team player.

thanks that was what I thought but didn't know for sure

Former Lancastrian Aug 14th 2021 1:39 pm

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Bruno 3 goals and not one a penalty. Pogba 4 assists and a full 90 minutes where I didn't swear at Fred. Not a bad opening result.

DaveLovesDee Aug 15th 2021 6:49 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 13040444)
Bruno 3 goals and not one a penalty. Pogba 4 assists and a full 90 minutes where I didn't swear at Fred. Not a bad opening result.

Playing well for his next move? ....


Scamp Aug 15th 2021 9:34 am

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Originally Posted by SpoogleDrummer (Post 13040319)
What in the **** are Southampton doing? They've lost at least 3 of their first team squad from last season and none of them are at Liverpool now. Are they re-investing the money at least or just paying back the loan the owner gave them?

Bertrand went to Leicester and Vestergaard followed. Ings to Villa so we're just focusing on the Midlands market now.

We've got the new Armstrong who scored yesterday on a deal and signed a couple of defenders which was desperately needed.

Reality is, we're just looking like a very, very, very top Championship side now, like Arsenal.

Garbatellamike Aug 15th 2021 10:27 am

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 13040720)
Reality is, we're just looking like a very, very, very top Championship side now, like Arsenal.

Isn't comparing the top championships to Arsenal a tad harsh?

i think the top championship sides are much better than that ;)

Former Lancastrian Aug 15th 2021 2:17 pm

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RIP Gerd Muller the only German Bomber English fans respected.

Garbatellamike Aug 15th 2021 4:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 13040780)
RIP Gerd Muller the only German Bomber English fans respected.

RiP der Wunderbomber


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