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Scamp Aug 17th 2021 6:38 am

Re: The 2021/22 Football Thread
 
Mbappe to Madrid
Ronaldo to PSG


Garbatellamike Aug 17th 2021 10:06 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13041134)
Reading about Aguero's latest injury made me look at how much he was available last season.
Just 12 appearances in the Prem but as usual that doesn't tell the story. Apparently only 7 starts, and subbed off in 5 of those. I don't know how many of those were injury related, time wasters or hooks but only 7 of 38 started.

One might make a case that compared to other seasons he was missed but City won the Prem at a canter, outscoring everyone else, won the League Cup as usual and made the Champions League final. Almost without him.

They're not really any worse off this season and one might argue that with Grealish they're in a better attacking position than last season.

They'll score enough goals from possession and chances to win as often as usual - and perhaps more - so long as they're not dependent on Ake and Mendy for their defence.

Auguero's legs had gone and he was struggling

I am 100% with you on Mendy he is a liability but thimk you are a little harsh on Ake.

The point I think you are missing is that the false 9 worked most of last year as you say but at the end Chelsea worked out how to defend it and beat us in 2 cups, Leicester used similar tactics as did Spurs and we lost all 4 games without scoring.

Scamp Aug 17th 2021 10:33 am

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Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 13041377)
lost all 4 games without scoring.

I reckon City didn't score because they insisted on crossing the ball to either Sterling or Ferran, who were stood still, competing with full size centre halves. Bizarre.

Garbatellamike Aug 17th 2021 10:45 am

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Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 13041388)
I reckon City didn't score because they insisted on crossing the ball to either Sterling or Ferran, who were stood still, competing with full size centre halves. Bizarre.

yep - the idea that Sterling can play centre forward is ridiculous he misses tons of chances through lack of composure as a winger - Ferran could play off a main striker but isn't one....


BristolUK Aug 17th 2021 11:27 am

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Originally Posted by Garbatellamike (Post 13041377)
I am 100% with you on Mendy he is a liability but thimk you are a little harsh on Ake.

Oh I like Ake. A footballing footballer but not what City need (in matches where defending is doubly vital) and as what, 4th choice, unlikely to play when it really matters.

The point I think you are missing is that the false 9 worked most of last year as you say but at the end Chelsea worked out how to defend it and beat us in 2 cups, Leicester used similar tactics as did Spurs and we lost all 4 games without scoring.
I don't think Chelsea learned how to defend it so much as they got a tactics guy in. Chelsea didn't just deal well with City, they improved everywhere.

The loss to Spurs yesterday was a good example of the sort of game where solidity at the back becomes more crucial. But even without that solidity, De Bruyne and/or Foden starting and Spurs would have been seen off, 3 points in the bag.

Garbatellamike Aug 17th 2021 11:36 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13041406)
Oh I like Ake. A footballing footballer but not what City need (in matches where defending is doubly vital) and as what, 4th choice, unlikely to play when it really matters.

I don't think Chelsea learned how to defend it so much as they got a tactics guy in. Chelsea didn't just deal well with City, they improved everywhere.

The loss to Spurs yesterday was a good example of the sort of game where solidity at the back becomes more crucial. But even without that solidity, De Bruyne and/or Foden starting and Spurs would have been seen off, 3 points in the bag.

I think you are right about Ake - good squad player particularly in Laporte moves on - but not a starter every week.

I hope you are right about Spurs game which i think might have gone differently with a neutral referee as Tanganga would have been booked in the first 5 minutes and sent off after 16 if he continued kicking and tripping people rather than tackling. However, leaving a serial cheat as referee aside, I feel that given the pattern is the same across 4 games and they've all finished the same - better side - massively more possession - no real chances created - lose 1-0 to goal on the break - I think the issue is deeper than your assessment.

You are correct about solidity at the back and with Mendy in our side there isn't any as he keeps losing the ball in transition (in our half...) putting his team mates out of position and vulnerable to the quick counter.


Former Lancastrian Aug 17th 2021 11:57 am

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Make it happen Ronaldo to Citeh for 25 million. :popcorn:

https://talksport.com/football/92819...e-man-utd-psg/

BristolUK Aug 17th 2021 11:58 am

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I don't really recall all the specific games mentioned but there's no doubt that Tuchel made a massive difference when Chelsea brought him in. As well as getting the better of City they turned over both Real and Atletico.

Your 'four games' looks like a pattern but I think the turn-around at Chelsea would likely have seen them winning anyway, so then it's just two games. Of course, if everyone else did the same then it might become a problem, but can they. Unlikely I reckon. Not enough of them anyway.

But even if teams can emulate Leicester and Spurs - and remember they're both good teams to begin with, something that about 15 others don't have - they still need to be encouraged during the game by space and mistakes. Any team coming up against City's first choice defenders is unlikely to receive the kind of encouragement Spurs had yesterday.

Garbatellamike Aug 17th 2021 12:17 pm

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13041421)
I don't really recall all the specific games mentioned.

I do :nod:

Garbatellamike Aug 17th 2021 12:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 13041420)
Make it happen Ronaldo to Citeh for 25 million. :popcorn:

https://talksport.com/football/92819...e-man-utd-psg/

please god NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Former Lancastrian Aug 17th 2021 6:03 pm

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Apparently Yernited played Burnley in a friendly behind closed doors at OT. Ended up winning 3 - 1 and FRED scored again. Varane didn't feature and Phil Jones was on the bench. I think OGS brought him on for the last 30 (seconds not minutes) so as to limit the chances of injuring a Yernited player or himself.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...esult-24778257

Former Lancastrian Aug 19th 2021 3:03 pm

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So the Squatters have released their 3rd kit for this season and the feedback is not all positive. What appears to look like a 10 quid t shirt is actually selling for 70 quid.

https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnew...d-kit-pic4.jpg

Notice the font of Etihad is bigger than the club name :rofl:

DaveLovesDee Aug 19th 2021 3:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 13042315)
So the Squatters have released their 3rd kit for this season and the feedback is not all positive. What appears to look like a 10 quid t shirt is actually selling for 70 quid.

https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnew...d-kit-pic4.jpg

Notice the font of Etihad is bigger than the club name :rofl:

Yeah, not like United's is it.... Oh wait, United's sponsor font is bigger than the club's name too....

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...d5e09f2e89.jpg

Sponsors pay lots of money to be the focal point of the shirt.

Former Lancastrian Aug 19th 2021 3:44 pm

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 13042326)
Yeah, not like United's is it.... Oh wait, United's sponsor font is bigger than the club's name too....

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...d5e09f2e89.jpg

Sponsors pay lots of money to be the focal point of the shirt.

Yes but if you notice the Yernited shirt still has the embroidered club badge on the shirt whereas the City one?

SpoogleDrummer Aug 19th 2021 3:44 pm

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 13042326)
Yeah, not like United's is it.... Oh wait, United's sponsor font is bigger than the club's name too....

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...d5e09f2e89.jpg

Sponsors pay lots of money to be the focal point of the shirt.

It's not so much the size of the sponsor it's the fact City's shirt doesn't even have their name on it. They're Manchester City not Man City, that's probably a gar bar somewhere. How can a shirt not have the club badge on it?


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