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Old May 20th 2019, 7:16 pm
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In case any of you want a little light reading, here's the first in a series I'm writing at the moment on Tommy Docherty's time at United (I've got three of five articles written & published on him).

https://footballbh.net/2019/03/30/th...fford-1972-73/
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Old May 20th 2019, 8:24 pm
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You're sounding more and more like a 1980s Scouser with every post Mike.... and that's NOT a recommended path in life.
I'll put that down as the bite I've been fishing for

great article btw Rodders
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Old May 20th 2019, 9:40 pm
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I'll put that down as the bite I've been fishing for

great article btw Rodders
Not quite a 'bite'...more like a nibble! I've been around you long enough to recognise a 'set up'...

As to the article, I've written a comprehensive review of Don Revie's entire career since I was last regularly on here, which seemed to get very well received- one Leeds United fan even accused me of being a "closet" White- talk about insulted!!
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Old May 20th 2019, 9:55 pm
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Not quite a 'bite'...more like a nibble! I've been around you long enough to recognise a 'set up'...

As to the article, I've written a comprehensive review of Don Revie's entire career since I was last regularly on here, which seemed to get very well received- one Leeds United fan even accused me of being a "closet" White- talk about insulted!!
I've been fishing that one for a while so will settle for you admitting to a nibble....

That's very insulting although one is surrounded by Geordies moving South and Leeds fans fleeing North here in the dales oh and one Watford fan who had to play 18 holes with me yesterday. I tried to be gracious but couldn't fight my basic personality for the full 4 hours.

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Old May 24th 2019, 5:13 am
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Data analysis in football.
I think all fans of the game will appreciate this write up about the data analysis team at Liverpool.
Not sure if it's behind a pay wall or not, sorry if it is

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/m...liverpool.html
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Old May 26th 2019, 10:21 pm
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/footb...ll-350million/

First time I have ever been to the Sun’s website.

For those who don’t wish to sully themselves:

MIKE ASHLEY has agreed to sell Newcastle for £350million to the cousin of Manchester City’s Arab owner Sheikh Mansour.

SunSport understands contracts have been signed and submitted to the Premier League between Ashley and Dubai-based billionaire Sheikh Khaled bin Zayed Al Nehayan.

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Old May 26th 2019, 10:55 pm
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Here's a match I would like to have watched. I can only get US TV channels here, but I might get lucky, with a bit of channel-surfing, I guess. Beckham was the best I've ever seen for crossing and free kicks - not so much in other areas. What's the consensus here?
https://www.rt.com/sport/460315-davi...nited-legends/
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Old May 26th 2019, 11:04 pm
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Here's a match I would like to have watched. I can only get US TV channels here, but I might get lucky, with a bit of channel-surfing, I guess. Beckham was the best I've ever seen for crossing and free kicks - not so much in other areas. What's the consensus here?
https://www.rt.com/sport/460315-davi...nited-legends/
a self indulgent show pony and media phenomenon best utilised as a shirt salesman who was good but not that special as a footballer, slow, poor in the air, no ability to beat a man and worst tackler ever oh and lacking in courage but he did score 18 free kicks in his 11 years at Yernited.

Scholes, Butt, Keane, Giggs all much more important as players to Yernited during his time but a huge commercial success for sure
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All true, Mike, but you were missing my point. In most footballing codes, there are specialists who aren't much good as all-rounders. In Rugby League, for instance, a great many wingers seem to loaf about not doing much, but they are experts in launching themselves horizontally towards the line and touching down in the six inches available to them, a mere three or four times in a game. I think we should be grateful to all specialists, of which Beckham was one. Don't let the fact that you despise him personally, get in the way of giving him his due.
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Old May 27th 2019, 1:25 am
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a self indulgent show pony and media phenomenon best utilised as a shirt salesman who was good but not that special as a footballer, slow, poor in the air, no ability to beat a man and worst tackler ever oh and lacking in courage but he did score 18 free kicks in his 11 years at Yernited.

Scholes, Butt, Keane, Giggs all much more important as players to Yernited during his time but a huge commercial success for sure
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All true, Mike, but you were missing my point. In most footballing codes, there are specialists who aren't much good as all-rounders. In Rugby League, for instance, a great many wingers seem to loaf about not doing much, but they are experts in launching themselves horizontally towards the line and touching down in the six inches available to them, a mere three or four times in a game. I think we should be grateful to all specialists, of which Beckham was one. Don't let the fact that you despise him personally, get in the way of giving him his due.
Beckham was super consistent and always seemed to give 100%. He got up and down the pitch quite well too. A couple of memorable moments for England including the last minute free kick against Greece and the penalty against Argentina. Overall I agree his core attributes were passing and dead ball situations. He made the most of his talent.
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Old May 27th 2019, 10:15 am
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So what do we all think about the Armenian chap from Arsenal not playing in the final,because of 'security concerns'. WTF are they doing holding major European cup final in a country like that?
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Old May 27th 2019, 11:14 am
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So what do we all think about the Armenian chap from Arsenal not playing in the final,because of 'security concerns'. WTF are they doing holding major European cup final in a country like that?
In fairness, it's a very pretty country and it has many redeeming features, one of which is the hospitable nature of the general population. It just so happens they're technically in a little war / dispute with their neighbours over some land.

Now - I'm undecided. On one hand it's unacceptable that we take such good / great / big / desirable things to such backwards places.
On the other hand, we take them, impose our standards (they've said he'd be safe, he's just being a little bitch about it), impose our demands of quality and fairness etc and ensure they meet it. We're upskilling through events and showing what the world expects the world to be like nowadays. Without seeing it in person how will they know?
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In fairness, it's a very pretty country and it has many redeeming features, one of which is the hospitable nature of the general population. It just so happens they're technically in a little war / dispute with their neighbours over some land.

Now - I'm undecided. On one hand it's unacceptable that we take such good / great / big / desirable things to such backwards places.
On the other hand, we take them, impose our standards (they've said he'd be safe, he's just being a little bitch about it), impose our demands of quality and fairness etc and ensure they meet it. We're upskilling through events and showing what the world expects the world to be like nowadays. Without seeing it in person how will they know?
Yeah, take your point, but with a major campaign to 'kick out' racism in football in full throttle, seems to be daft to play a major cup final in a place where apparently many of the the 'fans' are overtly racist.

Think it's a great shame for the lad as well, missing out playing in such a big game.
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. Don't let the fact that you despise him personally, get in the way of giving him his due.
I think that's a bit harsh on me.

Don't confuse not being swept along in a media frenzy with despising someone. I just don't think he was anywhere near the best midfielder in Trafford let alone England but he had a symbiotic relationship with the media that led to them lionising him.

KdB for example is twice the player he ever was and I'd pick Keane ahead of him 6 times a week and twice on Sunday...

Shirt selling his major effect for the clubs not football...
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Beckham was super consistent and always seemed to give 100%. He got up and down the pitch quite well too. A couple of memorable moments for England including the last minute free kick against Greece and the penalty against Argentina. Overall I agree his core attributes were passing and dead ball situations. He made the most of his talent.
Yeah agree that James and would point out that Fergie binned him when he stopped getting up and down the pitch so much.
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