Go Back  British Expats > General > The Lab
Reload this Page >

Windows 11

Windows 11

Old Jul 9th 2021, 9:39 pm
  #1  
Oscar nominated
Thread Starter
 
BristolUK's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA
Posts: 39,588
BristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond repute
Default Windows 11

I thought W10 was supposed to be the last version with twice a year updates.

How come I haven't seen news of W11 plastered over the media?
BristolUK is offline  
Old Jul 10th 2021, 12:14 am
  #2  
 
Nutek's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: CT
Posts: 32,049
Nutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

Originally Posted by BristolUK View Post
I thought W10 was supposed to be the last version with twice a year updates.

How come I haven't seen news of W11 plastered over the media?
It has been all over tech media. It’s just an early fast ring alpha. Decent look at it here.

Ars Technica
Nutek is offline  
Old Jul 10th 2021, 12:57 am
  #3  
Oscar nominated
Thread Starter
 
BristolUK's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA
Posts: 39,588
BristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

Originally Posted by Nutek View Post
It has been all over tech media.
So I gather from googling earlier.

I would have expected news media to have covered it given it goes against what W10 was supposed to be.

I expect I'm just naive.
BristolUK is offline  
Old Jul 12th 2021, 4:37 pm
  #4  
BE Enthusiast
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 416
wtkp0u has a reputation beyond reputewtkp0u has a reputation beyond reputewtkp0u has a reputation beyond reputewtkp0u has a reputation beyond reputewtkp0u has a reputation beyond reputewtkp0u has a reputation beyond reputewtkp0u has a reputation beyond reputewtkp0u has a reputation beyond reputewtkp0u has a reputation beyond reputewtkp0u has a reputation beyond reputewtkp0u has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

<ducking>
Surely you know the news media only covers new Apple products?
wtkp0u is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2021, 12:48 am
  #5  
Oscar nominated
Thread Starter
 
BristolUK's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA
Posts: 39,588
BristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

So I've seen more about this - but still not much in the regular media.

I've seen more because we (in my house) have been looking at compatibility tools and discovering that all our Processors - even i5 and i7 - are apparently not good enough, even though the required specs are all met by our various processors. It's just that MS have decided (as I'm reading it) to make it 8th generation onwards.

It would appear there are "ways" of upgrading to W11 despite this (just as there were "ways" of getting the free upgrade to W10 after it stopped ) but there's a risk of not getting security updates. Although some people who's devices are not compatible have received them.

It seems W10 will be 'good' until around 2025 and I would have assumed I'd be in need of a new laptop by then anyway, so maybe it's all a bit academic.

But really, wasn't W10 "sold" under false pretences as suggested in the OP? Nobody has tried to take any action against MS over this?

In 2015, as Microsoft was preparing to release its Windows 10 operating system, a developer evangelist speaking at a technical session during a company event dropped an eyebrow-raising statement. “Windows 10 is the last version of Windows,” he said.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/11/why-...f-windows.html

Last edited by BristolUK; Oct 18th 2021 at 12:53 am.
BristolUK is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2021, 2:32 am
  #6  
You aint seen me, right?
 
SpoogleDrummer's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: US of A, TN
Posts: 3,254
SpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

I imagine the 2 or so people that actually paid for Windows 10 for their 7th gen CPU may have a case in 2025, the rest of us will not be so lucky.

The only part that bothers me is:

Windows 11 Home edition requires internet connectivity and a Microsoft account.
I never use a Microsoft account to log in to my PCs, it causes so many profile and boot issues that logging in with a local account is far more reliable.
SpoogleDrummer is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2021, 8:27 am
  #7  
BE Enthusiast
 
calman014's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 812
calman014 has a reputation beyond reputecalman014 has a reputation beyond reputecalman014 has a reputation beyond reputecalman014 has a reputation beyond reputecalman014 has a reputation beyond reputecalman014 has a reputation beyond reputecalman014 has a reputation beyond reputecalman014 has a reputation beyond reputecalman014 has a reputation beyond reputecalman014 has a reputation beyond reputecalman014 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

Without a MS account you can’t update, same goes for W10.
calman014 is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2021, 2:26 pm
  #8  
Oscar nominated
Thread Starter
 
BristolUK's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA
Posts: 39,588
BristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

Originally Posted by SpoogleDrummer View Post
I imagine the 2 or so people that actually paid for Windows 10 for their 7th gen CPU may have a case in 2025, the rest of us will not be so lucky.
I know it's not the be all and end all, but I usually really on 'passmark' scores for CPUs when looking at laptops.
Some of those in the list of compatible ones appeared to be what I would have called ancient ones. Maybe I'm wrong, but if not old, they seem to be on the cheaper laptops. N numbered CPUs.

Randomly I had a look at one of them. N4020 - described as entry level on one review. It scores a mere 1589 on passmark.
My i5-7200u scores 3402 but not compatible.

I see on a side by side comparison that while I was wrong about being ancient and the N4020 is from 2020 while my i5 is from 2016, the i5 is streets ahead of the N4020 in what it does.
Seems very strange.

I never use a Microsoft account to log in to my PCs, it causes so many profile and boot issues that logging in with a local account is far more reliable.
Me neither. I have one but don't sign in on it.
BristolUK is offline  
Old Oct 18th 2021, 5:26 pm
  #9  
You aint seen me, right?
 
SpoogleDrummer's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: US of A, TN
Posts: 3,254
SpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond reputeSpoogleDrummer has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

Originally Posted by calman014 View Post
Without a MS account you can’t update, same goes for W10.
I have an MS account, I use Office 365 and Xbox Gamepass etc so having the account isn't the issue, it's just using it to sign in the the computer causes more issues than if you sign in locally, I assume they're attempting to use a roaming profile but that seems to get corrupted a lot more often than a local profile. Pretty much every time I install Windows 10 I skip setting up the wifi/internet connection which allows you to create the local account, finish the install and then set up wifi. I know you can switch from an MS account once installed but it's cleaner to not log in with an MS account at all.
SpoogleDrummer is offline  
Old Nov 20th 2021, 11:52 pm
  #10  
If I only had a brain
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 31,202
Jsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

Who is using Windows 11 and how did things go?

My PC is pestering me to upgrade to 11.
Jsmth321 is offline  
Old Nov 20th 2021, 11:58 pm
  #11  
SUPER MODERATOR
 
Jerseygirl's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 86,097
Jerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond reputeJerseygirl has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 View Post
Who is using Windows 11 and how did things go?

My PC is pestering me to upgrade to 11.
My husband does but he is not a heavy user, as he uses Apple. He said it is stable, cleaner interface, but when it’s switched on, it can take a minute or so for the updates to complete before the system is ready to use. There is not a drastic difference between 10 and 11.
Jerseygirl is offline  
Old Nov 20th 2021, 11:59 pm
  #12  
 
Nutek's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2012
Location: CT
Posts: 32,049
Nutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond reputeNutek has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 View Post
Who is using Windows 11 and how did things go?

My PC is pestering me to upgrade to 11.
Its ok.

Don’t see the rush to be honest. 10 isn’t going anywhere for years.
Nutek is offline  
Old Nov 21st 2021, 1:29 am
  #13  
Oscar nominated
Thread Starter
 
BristolUK's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: Moncton, NB, CANADA
Posts: 39,588
BristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond reputeBristolUK has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

Originally Posted by Nutek View Post
Its ok.

Don’t see the rush to be honest. 10 isn’t going anywhere for years.
2025?
That seems less time than was left for W7 (secure) but that could just be my memory letting me down.
BristolUK is offline  
Old Nov 21st 2021, 3:20 am
  #14  
If I only had a brain
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 31,202
Jsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond reputeJsmth321 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

Originally Posted by Jerseygirl View Post
My husband does but he is not a heavy user, as he uses Apple. He said it is stable, cleaner interface, but when it’s switched on, it can take a minute or so for the updates to complete before the system is ready to use. There is not a drastic difference between 10 and 11.
Originally Posted by Nutek View Post
Its ok.

Don’t see the rush to be honest. 10 isn’t going anywhere for years.
Thanks. I haven't clicked it yet to install, just noticed the hint that has been there for a couple days, wlel I clear it, but each restart it reminds me again.....
Jsmth321 is offline  
Old Nov 21st 2021, 11:17 am
  #15  
BEfuddled
 
BuckinghamshireBoy's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2016
Location: Brasschaat, Vlaanderen, België.
Posts: 5,707
BuckinghamshireBoy has a reputation beyond reputeBuckinghamshireBoy has a reputation beyond reputeBuckinghamshireBoy has a reputation beyond reputeBuckinghamshireBoy has a reputation beyond reputeBuckinghamshireBoy has a reputation beyond reputeBuckinghamshireBoy has a reputation beyond reputeBuckinghamshireBoy has a reputation beyond reputeBuckinghamshireBoy has a reputation beyond reputeBuckinghamshireBoy has a reputation beyond reputeBuckinghamshireBoy has a reputation beyond reputeBuckinghamshireBoy has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Windows 11

Originally Posted by Nutek View Post
Its ok.

Don’t see the rush to be honest. 10 isn’t going anywhere for years.
So can we continue to ignore the pesterings? Both OH and I are getting hassled of late...

I also have a Win 10 Virtual machine running under Ubuntu + Virtual box for this kind of thing, but he doesn't seem to be being bothered yet.
BuckinghamshireBoy is offline  

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.