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Old Nov 9th 2019, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Tweedpipe View Post
Fwiw I preferred Mint and 18.04.
I'm getting on ok with 18.04 now that I can keep the same desktop, but I don't see any improvement over 16.04. One thing I noticed was all my bookmarked sites show up several sizes larger, and need scaling down in firefox. The files section is the opposite, and need enlarging so the item titles aren't in long narrow columns. This sort of un-necessary nonsense is something I'm used to in certain years of Ford production, but not in Linux. I asked my friend again about the Mint layout, and I was wrong earlier when I said Windows; he says it looks like it was designed to look like an Apple system.

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Old Nov 10th 2019, 1:01 pm
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... but I usually insist on having more than one OS per disk.
Indeed, and wouldn't that be how most of us start anyway? Ok, the author is something to do with 'the business', not just a hobbyist. but he's rather having a pop at the lack of industry standard out there.

For me, one huge bone of contention with Macs is the frequency with which they introduce a new OS, which frequently renders a lot of (often expensive) software obsolete after an update. This is one reason why I always make a point of retaining one of their ‘best’ earlier OS’s which I know will run my software, and doing a clean install of a newly released OS on the same laptop on a separate SSD partition - truly straight forward and in no way painful as the article appears to suggest.
Absolutely! My limitation is MBR on the Vaio, so I only get one new partition at a time. I had wanted to try several distro's side by side, hence my looking into bootloaders and associated bits and pieces.

Back to Linux.......
Spent some frustrating moments attempting to format a USB flash drive in order to install MX Linux. When completed then found I was unable to change the ThinkPad X230 boot order for USB boot. Tried everything and failed, now wondering if a BIOS update may be required.
Then reformatted the USB drive and it live booted MX Linux immediately on my 2012 MacBookPro. No messing with BIOS or fiddling with UEFI, just a simple press of the ALT key at same time as power ON.
Long story short, I wasn't too excited by MXlinux, although I thought the 70+ page users manual was impressive and an unusual welcome addition. Fwiw I preferred Mint and 18.04.
Having played for a bit with Mint, I now want to try a few more distro's, and I don't really need the faff of having to safe up the current Mint before moving on. The Vaio is legacy/MBR only, I haven't found a firmware update to bring it to UEFI, either from Sony or American Megatrends.

So, put the Vaio on hold, and move on to one of two UEFI capable machines (which wasn't the original plan, so a bit more faff), choose "what works best for me", then put that on the Vaio.

I note your point on MX, but it's in the queue along with Manjaro and 18.04.

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I'm getting on ok with 18.04 now that I can keep the same desktop, but I don't see any improvement over 16.04. One thing I noticed was all my bookmarked sites show up several sizes larger, and need scaling down in firefox. The files section is the opposite, and need enlarging so the item titles aren't in long narrow columns. This sort of un-necessary nonsense is something I'm used to in certain years of Ford production, but not in Linux. I asked my friend again about the Mint layout, and I was wrong earlier when I said Windows; he says it looks like it was designed to look like an Apple system.
Scaling issues, huh? A bit like when britishexpats unleashes an 'upgrade'?

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Old Nov 30th 2019, 5:03 pm
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I was wondering recently if anyone here has used in the past or is currently using a Linux flavour on a Mac?
Last year I purchased another G4 iMac, and yes I know they're ancient, but it's perhaps my favourite Mac ever.
The latest one was cheap, and I found it had Lubunto 12.04 as the main OS. Apparently the seller was an IT specialist, a fanboy of Linux, and had loaded Lubunto onto the iMac for the fun challenge. He showed me some very basic functions which I was only half interested in, as I'd already decided I wanted the iMac based on it's condition and price alone. As you've probably guessed I have a particular love affair with this model, but that's another story......
After a few additional questions it became clear that the seller was a PC guy and not too familiar with Macs.
Once back home with the machine, I started to play around with it, and although it connected to the internet it was a pain to use, and also with other apps not something I could live with. For info, I'd previously installed Linux Mint on a 2007 Intel MacBook which ran very well and I enjoyed it, but Lubunto 12.04 on this iMac - no way! Even playing music with the media player that came loaded, made the processor cough & splutter.
The optical drive was defective, so I changed it for one of the many spare superdrive's I had available, and did a clean install of OS X Leopard. The transformation on performance was sheer magic compared to Lubunto, just as if it had been given a heart transplant, and after previously struggling with attempts at a very slow waltz - was now dancing the tango. However I was still intrigued about the possibility of having a good working Linux version on a PowerPC computer.
Linux Mint was apparently quite workable on early ppc Macs around 2011, but I never got around to trying it, and due to general lack of public interest for the ppc platform, Mint11 fell by the wayside. Until recently when the MintPPC developper realised that there was an increasing Mac G3, G4 and G5 user base, and decided to develop a more modern, fast & slick Linux version for PowerPC computers. I read that 32 and 64bit Debian-based iso versions have now been released. I've yet to try it as it involves some command-line input which I tend to shy away from. But that could soon change, and if so I'll report back on the feel of a 16 year old PowerMac under a modern Linux.

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Originally Posted by Tweedpipe View Post
I was wondering recently if anyone here has used in the past or is currently using a Linux flavour on a Mac?
To borrow from another character in your signature, "Ah no nu-theeng". Not been there, not done it.

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...I've yet to try it as it involves some command-line input which I tend to shy away from. But that could soon change, and if so I'll report back on the feel of a 16 year old PowerMac under a modern Linux.
Don't shy away, just be sure of the viability of your backups.

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I had an urgent need to drastically sort out a data-set (a very badly presented csv from my bank) when I remembered that I had installed cygwin on one of the Win machines yonks ago.

Fired up cygwin, full-on bash shell, mount the network drive and with a sed and a hey nonny no and a few pipes and a tr and another sed, problem sorted, yay, a useful file.

It is not KSH admittedly, but pretty good all the same.

Anyone running Solaris?
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To borrow from another character in your signature, "Ah no nu-theeng". Not been there, not done it.


Don't shy away, just be sure of the viability of your backups.

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I wish to thank sid nv, who I shall now think of as sed nv.

I had an urgent need to drastically sort out a data-set (a very badly presented csv from my bank) when I remembered that I had installed cygwin on one of the Win machines yonks ago.

Fired up cygwin, full-on bash shell, mount the network drive and with a sed and a hey nonny no and a few pipes and a tr and another sed, problem sorted, yay, a useful file.

It is not KSH admittedly, but pretty good all the same.

Anyone running Solaris?
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